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| Air Serbia to launch transatlantic flights from June 1, 2016 |
Air Serbia today officially announced it will launch its first long haul transatlantic flights from June 1, 2016. The carrier will run five weekly flights from Belgrade to New York with a leased two-cabin Airbus A330-200 aircraft. "The launch of non-stop flights between Belgrade and New York in June next year will be a hugely proud and significant moment in the short history of Air Serbia, demonstrating the growth and ambitions of the airline. We cannot underestimate the positive impact the new service will have on the people and businesses of Serbia as we open this air-bridge to the United States, which is home to so many Serbian communities who will now have a unique opportunity to fly to Serbia with the national airline", the Serbian Prime Minister, Aleksandar Vučić said. He noted that the A330-200 will likely be leased from an Indian carrier (presumably Etihad Airways Partner - Jet Airways). The President and CEO of Etihad Airways, as well as Vice-Chairman of the Air Serbia Supervisory Board, James Hogan, said, “In addition to creating a safe and commercially-sustainable airline, one of the pledges we made when Air Serbia was launched in 2013 was to re-connect Serbia with major Serbian population centres around the world. We are naturally delighted, therefore, to announce the launch of the New York service which, as well as enhancing business and cultural ties between the two countries, will provide a major boost to inbound tourism to Serbia. The new service shows one of the main strengths of Etihad Airways Partners. In launching this transatlantic service, Air Serbia can call upon the expertise and resources of pilot and cabin crew training, as well as fleet and engineering support”.
The CEO of Air Serbia, Dane Kondić, said the airline will offer five weekly flights to New York since the airline will initially lease a single A330-200. He noted that passengers will be offered flights via Berlin and Dusseldorf with Air Serbia's codeshare partner Air Berlin on the remaining two days when Air Serbia isn't be operating services with its own metal. He noted that the airline is expected to receive a permit for the flights from US authorities "any day now". “The launch of the Belgrade - New York non-stop service is a fantastic example of the positive impact of the Air Serbia strategic plan, which is progressing well and continues to be on-track to meet and surpass its targets. We have been asked for many months when a new United States service will start, and we are pleased now to reveal the destination and intended launch date and look forward to welcome guests onboard our flights between Belgrade and New York, offering them our world-famous Serbian cuisine and hospitality as they cross the Atlantic”, Mr Kondić noted. The transatlantic flights will be scheduled so as to offer quick connections for passengers from Southeast Europe and the Balkans.
• "The next long haul service could be Beijing. We talked about this", Mr Vučić says. Mr. Kondić adds, "We are expecting a permit to the USA any day now. We plan to fly 5 times per week to New York since we will have one A330 aircraft. On the other two days, we will offer codeshare flights with Air Berlin via Dusseldorf and Berlin".
• Head of the Air Serbia Supervisory Board, Siniša Mali, says, "Profits in 2015 up 30%". Serbian Prime Minister, Aleksandar Vučić, adds, "Flights to New York are a big success. We will have a good aircraft, the A330-200, which I assume we will lease from an Indian company. We are showing the new face of Serbia. I hope we Air Serbia will also buy another airline in the region".
• Etihad Airways CEO James Hogan says Jat Airways was in serious decline. "Today we have a leading airline in the Balkans. Revenue is up 103%. We need the people of Serbia to get behind their national carrier", Mr Hogan says.
• Air Serbia launching flights to New York in 2016 with Airbus A330-200 aircraft five times per week. The airline is in talks with aircraft leasing companies.
• Mr Kondić says, "I have one major piece of news for you today". Beforehand, he says the airline handled more than two million passengers during the first three quarters of 2015. Air Serbia's charter brand handled 110.000 passengers on some twenty destinations.
• Today's speakers include Air Serbia CEO Dane Kondić, Etihad Airways CEO James Hogan, Supervisory Board Chairman Siniša Mali and Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić.
• Etihad Airways CEO James Hogan will speak at the conference today.
• Press conference expected to start soon. A large number of Air Serbia and Etihad Airways staff present including crew from both companies.
This would be than a news for tomorrow :) After a PC when all would be reveiled.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts too, this should have been just a news flash, but nontheless, i'm interested in what the announcement is :)
DeleteGood reporting is to bring news as they happen. Not a day later.
DeleteGood work admin, and thanks for the live stream option!
By that logic news about Adria taking over Estonian Air should have been a day later too but the admin brought us news on the day it happened with a live report. Not a single slovenian media had any news about it. To me that is a job well done. Excited to here the news today.
DeleteI am not too excited about today's announcement because whatever it is, the first comment here will be that it makes very bad news for Air Serbia. Dozens of hate missiles will follow it. It will be difficult to read.
DeleteDobra vest je dobra za svaki dan. Jer dobra vest pravi dan jos boljim. Prirodno za svakog ko dobro zeli. Sve sto skromno mogu reci za Nova Krila Evrope, to jest timu Er Srbije, jeste: AIR SERBIA for ever.
DeleteRodney near ✈MORAVA AIRPORT✈. KVO✈SYD.
Ja sam mislio da je Adria Nova krila Evrope?
DeleteAnon@3:16 PM,
Deletesto mislite da je Adria nova krila Evrope, to je Vase misljenje. Lepo je misliti jer Vase misli ne menjaju fakt. ✈R✈
A to je fakat jelte? Samo zato što to Vi kažete? Adria širi krila sa 4-5 baza po evropi. A AS ima samo jednu bazu. Nadam se da me razumete.
DeleteGood for Adria if many hubs are key to success. Etihad, Emirates and KLM have only one hub each, guess they should learn from Adria.
DeleteJames Hogan arrived in Belgrade too! It must be news about US flights :)
ReplyDeleteNatürlich
DeleteJames Hogan is in Australia now!
Delete@10:41 u Abu Dabiju je, gde je potpisao ugovor o saradnji sa Mubadalom, a da li dolazi u Beograd, ne znam.
DeleteVUČKO opet lupeta... "Air Serbia je veća od Aegana i BEG je najbrže rastući aerodrom na Balkanu"
DeleteJust saw an Air Serbia commercial on CNN this morning. Was a bit surprised they are advertising there. Imagine 2 years ago JAT advertising anywhere... even in Serbia.
ReplyDeletewhy strange ?
DeleteIf you want to put a ad for something you pay a lot green $$$$ and voila there you have it satellite tv stations. simply as 1+1=2 nothing strange
Well, if there are really going to be BEG-JFK flights, anyone have any ideas on the possible loads?I heard that that market is getting bigger...
ReplyDeleteAnyone has any idea when that route will be profitable for JU?
DeleteAfter how long? One year? Two? Five? Never?
Vucic said 2 years which I assume he heard from one of the meetings.
DeleteWhen I click at the link it is telling me that live stream is unavailable due to copy rights issues. I am in germany now
ReplyDeleteCan I go around it in any way?
it is easy if you use a chrome or firefox install Hola which is Free VPN - google it
Delete5 weekly to JFK but starting from September 2016.
ReplyDeleteApparently they can not launch the service in time for the summer season.
How do you know?
DeleteBut have Americans issued a licence for direct flights from Belgrade to USA ? Admin or anyone else, any information ?
DeleteAnon 10:46
DeleteYou cant expect me to write here who told me.
Anon 10:49 any airline needs several months of preparations (marketing, interlining agreements, new vendors in US, deals and promotions with travel agencies, arrangements for accommodations, offices) that are way bigger than passengers realize.
You can't just start flying a couple of months after you get the license from the authorities.
Anon 11:11
DeleteCompletely agree, it is understandable, but have they issued a licence, it must be inevitable step.
Kakav Septembar ko zna i kednu pricu zna da je to dosta pre septembra.
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@INN-NS Maco, ako je dosta pre septembra a ti to znas, sto to ne podelis sa drugarima? Fulao si sa datumom, lupetao sa brojem A330, sa destinacijama.. a danas kada se plan bude objavio, onda ces da pricas kako si ti sve to znao i pricao a niko ti nije verovao..
DeleteNisam lupetao sa Brojem A330 vec se zna da dolazi serije 200 mozda bude i vise od jednog ;)
DeletePa pre Serptembra je , bilo je kasnilo zbog papirologe a ne mene .
INN-NS
A jel, zbog papirologije.. ;) Nego, posto je danas radostan dan, necu da te napadam, eto, toliko od mene ;)
DeleteIt would wonderful if came maybe even more than one A330-200. What amazing achievements in the future might happen, earlier than it have been expected. I strongly believe and wish this happens.
DeleteIt would be wonderful if came maybe even more than one A330-200. What amazing achievements in the future might happen, earlier than it have been expected. I strongly believe and wish this happens.
Delete@12:34PM
DeleteSlobodno recite ako imate sta ali nemate zato necete ni da kazete .
Jeste radostan za mene a za vas cisto sumnjam.
INN-NS
Naprotiv sine, radostan je i za mene.. ali si se toliko nalupetao proteklih godinu dana da si obesmislio celu pricu..
DeleteVidim nisam ja nista obesmislio ili lupetao nije do mene sto je kasnilo a vi bi se mogli potpisati.
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Kada se ti predstavis odmah cu i ja.
DeleteI can't help to think that Air Serbia will end up the same way Malev did. Both basically serving the same region. With the expansion that Malev did, we know what happened. At this moment, it is an easy ride for Air Sebia, with the support of Etihad. Time will only tell.
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Delete1. Serbia is not an EU member and the European Commission cannot decide whether ASL lives or dies.
Delete2. Malev did not have a strategic partner to back it up. Without that partner there would be no ASL and Jat would die.
3. Any airline can go bust, it is a tough industry. But Malev and Air Serbia are not really comparable scenarios. If Air Serbia fails it will be first because of politics which is its weak spot. Other than that it has some potential - which of course does not mean that potential will be fulfilled.
RS is a candidate state so many obligations are the same as for member states....sooon or later Serbia will have to close the transport chapter with EU.
DeleteNo need to act as if it is closed already. Once it has been closed (Air) Serbia may need to take the EC into consideration and cut the state aid, however that day may be quite far ahead which leaves enough precious time for ASL to grow into a sustainable carrier with the help of the government and Etihad.
DeleteSerbia has to be fully in compliance with the state aid regulations, and EU will have a chance to challenge any state aid granted outside of the approved process. Air Serbia deal was approved by Serbia's Commission for the Control of State Aid and as such it is "safe", but Air Serbia has to be extremely careful when it comes to receiving any state aid that was not part of Commission's approval. No such thing as cut state aid, only return state aid with fees and interest.
DeletePM pointed finger to MMF for all subsidy/aid questions.
DeleteI would say that JU is in much better hands over MA. MA had no vision and backing.
ReplyDeleteNo vision? Are you for real? If anything Malev had plenty of vision. The reason they went bankrupt was because of the uncompetitive leasing terms for their B737NG aircraft.
ReplyDeleteOf course, politics also had to do with it.
Mind you, Gauss (their CEO) went on to run BT and look at what he did there.
Pogotovo promasaj je bio sto su imali previse 736 .
DeleteINN-NS
It had nothing to do with lease rates, just to the contrary, it was very favourable, being sealed just after 9.11 when noone needed aircraft. The real reason was everybody stealing from it as much as they could and luxurious salary of the crew with low hours to fly.
DeleteActually, if you bothered to read the reports (and especially the government's white paper on Malev) you would have seen that the leases were too expensive. Also, there was absolutely no need for a fleet renewal plan as the old generation 737s had more than enough life in them.
DeleteNo one said that they weren't stealing from it, they were but that wasn't the primary reason for the airline's demise- it was one of the factors but not the primary one.
INN,
DeleteI can't complain, it's thanks to Malev (and OS) that I got a chance to fly on one. :)
OT Does anybody know what AN-12 is carrying almost on daily basis to Valencia and back (form BEG)
ReplyDeleteVesti koje cemo danas dobiti jesu 4 nove detinacije u letnjem redu letenja kao i prosirenje regionalne flote u 2016 godini.
ReplyDeleteNazalost JFK nece biti jos objavljen, zbog cekanja na odgovor Amera.
JFK starting on June 1st... we have only two more hours before the conference starts
ReplyDeleteI have the same info for the JFK flights, so let's hope it's true
DeleteEto, INN, vidis to je info a ne kao ti.
DeleteOni se ne potpisuju a ja necu da ojavljujem datume iz nekih drugih razloga nisam ni Ceo ni nista vise puta sam rekao da je to Kvartal 2.
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Nadam se da ce i danas objaviti i da ce doci jos koji A320 i taman mogu preuzeti A321 Ceo ex UN i naravno RJ bi bili odlicni.
ReplyDeleteAli dovoljno je i ovo sto sto ce biti objavljeno.
INN-NS
"ovo sto ce bit objavljeno" a "to" ti ne znas sta je a pravis se da znas :) a svima je jasno da je tvoj insajder iz air srbije u stvari cistacisa sa aerdroma n. tesla..
DeleteKako da ne mozda je vas pa pa mislite da je svima ;)
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ne znas sta ce biti objavljeno tralalalallalaaaaaaaa
DeleteZnam i to od bitnih ljudi samo necu da pisem o tome neka bude iznenadjenje za vas ;)
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Ne znas macak, i to svi znaju.. tvoji izvori su tanki.
DeleteIf he does know why does he say "I hope"?
DeletePa vidi se ko je bio upravu i ciji su izvori bili ispravni na kraju ;) Dete je pre vas znalo i saznalo sramota.
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..ne dete, cak nisi ni prvi objavio da je saopstenje danas... samo se tesi..
DeleteNemorate sve cuti od mene dovoljno je da je dete znalo pre vas i da ste rastureni ;).
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Ujeee kako si se nalozio a ne da nisi imao insajdersku informaciju, ozbiljni ljudi iz kompanije su nas obavestili da ce biti 332 I 5 letova nedeljno a tvoja info od cistacice je bila min. 2 333 od marta '15 za toronto I za kinu!!!informacije su ti za krivi k. pa ovo je za banovanje ljudi moji!,!! Katastrofenzi !!!
DeleteE baš bezveze, svi smo se nadali da će biti vest u vezi letova za JFK and YYZ. Čudo je da sazivaju konferenciju ovakvog oblika ako je u pitanju 4 nove destinacije.
ReplyDeletePa ako se uzme u obzir da im nesuđeni Clarkovi i Hogani na ovom blogu nonstop zameraju kako spavaju i ništa ne rade dok konkurencija razbija redom, onda su 4 nove destinacije svakako vredne sazivanja konferencije za medije.
DeleteUzbuđenje lagano raste. 60
ReplyDeleteOT: A sad jos malo lazi o muzeju vazduhoplovstva u beogradu.
ReplyDeletehttp://tangosix.rs/2015/09/11/tango-six-otkriva-dokumenti-ministarstva-odbrane-dokazuju-da-ministar-odbrane-nije-govorio-istinu-o-muzeju-vazduhoplovstva/
OT Razvaljuju LH sa strajkom.
ReplyDeleteOT: Montenegro Airlines will launch TGD-TZL-VIE flights!!
ReplyDeleteCool! But bad for connections via VIE.
DeleteCan someone such as JATBEGMEL explain us the advantage of A330-200 over A330-300 for planned Air Serbia routes?
ReplyDeleteA332 is a smaller ac both in pax and cargo capacity compared to the A333.
DeleteAny advantage in leasing it? I heard the leasing price and operating costs were similar, albeit the A333 offers bigger capacity.
DeleteA332 cena je 280-775 veci domet
DeleteA333 cena je 250-900
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The A330-300 costs $6.26 less per nautical mile to operate than the A330-200.
DeleteJU doesn't need that extra capacity. A332 is big enough capacity that needs to be filled.
DeleteNew York we are coming.
ReplyDeleteNew York we are coming.
ReplyDeleteČestitam, fantastično!
ReplyDeleteThe leading airline on the Balkan is Aegean....sorry
ReplyDeleteYou mean Turkish, but never mind. Great news anyway.
DeleteIt's actually Turkish Airlines if you count Ataturk as European airport.
DeleteWho cares anyway, flights to NYC are not a small thing at all. Congratulations to Air Serbia for this, I expected from them to announce some new destinations but this is a big ting anyway.
Delete...al ne lete za USA, sorry
DeleteI bolje sto Aegean jos nije poceo letiti za USA i za Kanadu. Njima je cilj da naprave veliku mrezu sirom Evrope, srednjeg istoka i sjeverne Afrike i da onda tek planiraju dalje.
DeleteDrago mi je sto ce ponovo u bivsoj Jugoslaviji biti letova preko bare i iskreno mogu reci da sam predpostavio da ce BEG biti prvi ako opet bude nekadasnji letova jer je najveci aerodrom u regionu i ZAG je ipak mali sto se tice broja putnika godisnji. Nema ni 3 miliona putnika i to ti nije nista.
Jedino mislim da Air Serbia uzima riziku i da je 50-50 dal ce biti profita i dal su uopste spremni za ovaku veliku stvari jer njihova mreza nije dobra (malo je to uporedeno sa Aegean) i jos su se neke destinacije ukinule i mnoge su smanjene. Takoder i skupo je letiti za USA i puno ce njih para ovo kostati.
Za kraj, nek se pripreme na jaku konkurenciju. Idu sa jednim A330-200 protiv Lufthanse, Alitalia, KLM, Air France, British Airways i Turkish Airlines. Ja mislim da Vucic ne zna kakva je konkurencija.
AZ,AF-KL nisu konkurencija ne znam dali vam je to jasno
DeleteНема шта да иду против, тржиште је велико, имају нешто јефтинију радну снагу и ниже цене, довољно да се напуни 250-300 места дневно...
Delete^^^
DeleteAZ is in the same alliance as JU.
LH and AF are going from strike to stike which could have a possitive effect on JU in the region.
I did earlier speculate that JU could be used to compliment AZ and AB who both have morning flights JFK but nothing in the late afternoon, which works well with JU's regional network.
I would also assume a RO, A3 and AZ codeshare to be put onto the flights.
Jedan Airbus A330-200 nije dovoljan ako ce biti 5 letova sedmicno za New York. Treba tu barem 3-4 aviona.
ReplyDeleteTako je.. treba za svaki dan po jedan ;)
DeleteRealno trebaju dva, da ne bude kao sa Grcima. Ispadne jedan avion iz saobracaja i nema alternative, a onda krecu gubici prebacivanja na druge kompanije i ostalo...
DeleteBice dva ali treba vremena.
DeleteĆuj, samo dva! Ma biće tricet!
DeleteFor those watching, any mention YYZ. Tjose might be easier to start.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I like the fact that they are introducing flights to New York, Vucic could inform himself before telling nonsense. Air Serbia is not the leading airline in the Balkans, the leading airlines are Turkish and Aegean. And Belgrade Airport is not the fastest growing airport in the Balkans, it's Ataturk and Athens Airport.
ReplyDeleteAnyway congratulations to Air Serbia for this, I was expecting from them to announce some flights to airports like MAD, BCN, CAI, LED, KBP, OSL, PRN but never mind.
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DeleteShort haul can be introduced very quickly. ZAG was announced 1 month in advance and went from 0 pw to 2 daily immediately.
DeleteThey need more airplanes first.
DeleteHow nice that serbian taxpayer will pay the part of my flight from LJU to JFK....thanks a lot for this option. Good luck and thx for this generous gestion. Looking forward to use this service cause I belive that I will spare at least 200 euros eventhough I will lost at least 2 houts if I would use VIE, MUC, FRA , CDG ...or any of nore wesrern airports
ReplyDeleteGadna je ljubomora ;)
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I guess you could say it is similar to how SLO taxpayers subsidize JP from PRN, TIR, and now in Estonia.
DeleteDon't worry about the two hours extra time in BEG as opposed to VIE, MUC, FRA etc. because sometimes in those airports the connections time could be 4+ hours. So it works out to be about the same.
Good Travels
Samo izvoli, i drugi put. Srbija nikad nije bila sisa..
DeleteIgnore the little girl.
DeleteI think that he just wanted to say that he has another option and to spare some money
DeleteČestitke Air Serbiji na ovoj lijepoj vijesti, hrabar potez i želim im puno sreće! Mislim da će i Hrvatska uskoro dobiti (makar sezonske) letove za USA, smatram da je to trenutno jedina bivša jugoslovenska republika koja bi mogla napuniti avione za USA (ponajprije radi turizma, naravno)!
Delete@ Marko
Delete1) it is amazing that you will choose to fly a Serbian carrier rather than the Star Alliance options you have ex LJU ie: OS, LH, LX, JP etc.
2) I am sure you have seen that JU prices fit your budget for travel and find the timetable more convenient compared to LH, JP, OS etc?
3) And since you talk on transit times lets touch again on the timetable. So you know the timetable of JU for the JFK flights, so it will be nice of you to share this information with us. You already know that you will loose time connecting in BEG, so do share the timetable with us :)
Congrats, Air Serbia! I'm just curious, the "poster" above says "Subject to regulatory approval" (bottom right corner), so they didn't get the permission from American authorities yet. Why did they have the conference today if they are still waiting for the approval?
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DeleteFinal approval was supposed to come a couple days back according to Kondic in the press conference. It should come within the week he expects. This is probably why ticket sales havent started or a schedule released.
Marko, If I may suggest: please use your marketing prowess to lobby with appropriate tax funded organizations in Slovenia to raise funds for financial subsidy for Air Serbia. That way Air Serbia would have financial incentive backed by tax payers in Slovenia to at least once a week make a stop in Ljubljana on a way to New York: BEG-LJU-JFK. You would have direct flight from Ljubljana to New York and your taxpayers could help you save you 200 eur compared to trip with LH or OS.
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DeleteI read Marko's post as meaning two additional hours of flying. That is, of course, different to hours of travel. But personally I would rather have a 4 hour connection in FRA than a one 1 hour connection, say in IST, and spend 3 additional hours flying (particularly Y class). In such a hypothetical scenario, the travel times would be identical, and assuming the origin departure times are the same, I would prefer the shorter 'air' time and longer connection enjoying a drink or shopping at a world class terminal (something BEG does not offer, I am certain you would agree).
Also, perhaps Marko was being a little cheeky, sorry I can't mind-read, but at least he's considering flying JU. You should take that as a positive.
Finally, do not underestimate the response from TK. While JU can restrict the number of TK flights to BEG it cannot stop them from dumping prices for JFK flights from its Balkans destinations to the point where JU bleeds so much money it may have to drop the route. Remember, Serbia is behind JU, not UAE, Qatar or KSA. TK flies to essentially every destination that JU does and is extremely well positioned to cause incredible damage to JU. A different scenario altogether would be if EY decides to channel some of its traffic via BEG to overcome its expansion issues in North America (in which case TK will not lose much of its transatlantic passengers from the Balkans). It will truly be fascinating to see what will happen over the next 2-3 years. I, for one, am rooting for JU to do well and for all the Balkans passengers to have better options to fly to JFK (something different to *A would be healthy).
Best wishes.
I agree with what you say, but keep in mind that Balkan travelers have one overriding criteria for choosing an airline, and that is price. Doesn't mater how long they have to wait at a first class or other airport.
DeleteBalkan travelers are not primary target, it's USA based travelers (diaspora in the USA + relatives going from Balkans to USA for family visit but travel is funded by diaspora). Many of them travel with small kids, old relatives or people who don't speak English or are afraid of connecting at a large airport. For them, direct flight will be preferable compared to cheaper but much longer trip via IST.
DeleteIt will probably be the same situation we have right now. Flying from North America to Serbia is much more expensive than flying the other way around.
Delete@SMM
Deletelets not under estimate JU here. For an airline its size it has a decent number of frequent fliers (loyal customer base) whom if offered would choose JU over other airlines.
TK I doubt would hurt their yields on such a flight for a drastic period of time. Many destinations transfer to their N American network too not just the Balkans. Having said that BEG-IST is alot O&D.
Where JU can hurt TK is that JU better knows the domestic market. The Serbs in the diaspora would always choose Serbian over foreign. People of the ex-YU region would no longer have the language barrier when travelling such a distance, something TK, LH, OS, LX, KL, AZ, AF etc can not offer.
The thing that interests me the most is who's gonna be their partner on the other side of the Atlantic.
ReplyDeleteExcellent question. Which airlines are best suited for this? AC in Canada?
DeleteFor New York I think either Jetblue or American since both are partners of Etihad.
DeleteAmerican would be really good because Air Serbia could then launch ORD as well.
Does Amerian have hub in Chicago?
DeleteYes, it's one their biggest American hubs.
DeleteB6 i AA sa njima ce biti codeshare kako sam cuo.
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ReplyDeleteWhy two same posts?
DeleteSo Belgrade- New York in June 2016 good job
ReplyDeleteMAD, BCN, CAI, LED, KBP not enough passengers. Only PRN is on a list. OSL is covered.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations to Air Serbia and shareholders on exciting news!
ReplyDeleteEx-Yu forgot to mention:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.b92.net/eng/news/society.php?yyyy=2015&mm=11&dd=04&nav_id=95938
"In the future, Air Serbia will buy other Balkan Airlines"
ReplyDeleteAny hints? Montenegro, B&H?
Montenegro maybe, but I would be very careful there.
DeleteB&H? What is there to buy?
Није ми јасно због чега је организована овако помпезна фарса да би се поново саопшитла најава која је у истој форми поменута пре више од две године, јер да се разумемо, ми на овој фарсичној конференцији нисмо добили ни датум када почињу летови, ни ред летења, нити када стиже авион у флоту, апсолутно ништа ново или ништа што већ није познато, чак није новост да ни дозвола за летове од стране америчких власти није још издата, али ево саће само што није, верујте на реч, часна пицоустова, но битно је да се организује помпезна фешта да би се тај исти представио као бог
ReplyDeleteHvata te ljubomora:)? Veoma velika vest za celi region, za tebe je autobus vrh
DeleteHvata te ljubomora:)? Veoma velika vest za celi region, za tebe je autobus vrh
DeleteBravo. Dosta mi je političara u biznisu. Nebitno čijih, iz koje stranke.
Deleteda upravu si, i dalje treba da se nabave sve dozvole! Trebali su da objave kada tacno nabave avione i kada se bude znao tacan red letenja!
DeleteI hear what you are saying but think of this as the first steps of the 'awareness' campaign, or the early stages of marketing. True to what you said, nothing concrete etc. It is just an announcement. More details will be coming in the months to come. If they do not start selling tickets by January then we can be very critical.
Delete@ Nenad Radujko, why are you attacking him? What did he say that was not correct?
Deletekondic said "by june next year" so its less than 6 months away, dont be so salty
DeleteNaravno da ce praviti kad je ASL najveca i jedina aviokompanija iz EX YU koja ce leteti za USA.
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More like 7 months, but OK. But he did not announce when tickets sales will begin. That is very important.
DeleteAs great as it was to hear the news today, there was still so much missing from the announcement today.
I am worried about the fact that they plan on flying 5 times per week with a single aircraft.
DeleteTurnaround times will be very tight and what will happen if the plane goes tech? Horrible planning. This is a disaster waiting to happen.
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DeleteJU shouldn't have issues with ac going tech. The A330's will be relatively newer than the B767 GW was using. That aside, the maintenance on the aircraft will be significantly better than that of GW which had some appauling issues with their ac ie: the oxygen masks.
Worst comes to worst, EY group have the ac (AB, AZ, EY, 9W) and pax could easily be transferred over to AB and AZ, not to mention the other airlines available ex JFK to Europe.
Dragi admine, po cenu da me nazovu botom, molim vas da sankcionisete recnik anon 6:22
DeleteEj, sinko, aj' oladi.
DeleteTesko da sam sa godinama koje imam "sinko" ali nikoga pa ni nesretnog Vučića neću nazivati takvim imenom.. oladicu, kada ljudi u ovoj zemlji budu normalno komunicirali. Pricamo o aviokompaniji ljudi, da li ste vi normalni?!
DeletePa i anon u 6:22 je pričao o aviokompaniji i Vi tražite da mu se sankcioniše rečnik? Zašto? Zato što Vam se ne sviđa šta je rekao? I nije bio bezobrazan, pa sad Vi vidite šta je Vaš problem?!
DeleteŠta, "picousti" je sada normalan izraz, jel?
DeletePicousti je potpuno bezvezan izraz kada je on zapravo cmarousti. On nema nikakve veze sa ASL osim sto ih koristi za nabijanje nicim zasluzene popularnosti. To svejedno jako razdrazuje majmune za tastaturama. Nista drugo od privrede mu ne uspeva. Ceo region se lagano oporavlja od velike ekonomske krize Srbija najsporije.
DeleteNice to see that almost all of the comments are reasonable. Some critical, but thay is also legit.
ReplyDeleteSo for the people who always attack the critical commentators and label them 'haters' can take a break today.
-- Charlie
You sure? Just have a look slightly above your comment. A typical hater who will likely have to search for a pharmacy tonight. And we will read such bursts of hate until the day of the maiden flight. And after it of course.
Deletewho do you mean?
DeleteOT: Montenegro Airlines iz Tuzle za Beč.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bhstring.net/tuzlauslikama/tuzlarije/viewnewnews.php?id=66327
I would have understood 2 x ORD, 2x YYZ and 2x JFK but I really fail to see the market prospect for 5weekly flights to JFK. It will end up in dumping with 4 coupon tickets to fill the plane. And by the way who will take ASL pax from JFK to ORD and YYZ? I know from friends who worked with JAT America that YYZ and ORD are the much bigger markets then JFK.....ASL will end up like Malev with filling the plane with Macedonians, Bulgarians and Albanians to JFK for $499. What an iconic irony that Serbian tax payers will subsidize this.
ReplyDeleteif anything, I dont understand the point of operating something 2 x pw, especially a long haul destination from a full fare full service carrier.
DeleteThe argument of price dumping doesnt work. Ofcourse we will expect initial sales and incentitives for pax to fly JU transatlantic but this will be less and less as the route matures. The same as we have already seen the past 2 years. Nothing new.
Lets not jump the gun and talk of ticket prices when that changes with the basic economics of supply and demand. No destination in no airline has a fixed price. We are talking about an airline company and not city public transport.
Last but not least, JAT America was years ago, and much has changed in aviation since then. Aviation in Serbia has changed alot in the past 2 years in itself let alone in the days of JAT America. I am sure enough analysis has been made and they see an opportunity and will see how it works out.
I agree. 5 weekly will be difficult to fill at first, better would have been: 2x ORD, 2x YYZ, 3x JFK. This will probably happen eventually.
DeleteBut who knows, maybe we will see 4x ORD, 4x YYZ, 5x JFK, later on when they add another plane.
Daily, but you can't do it with only one plane.
DeleteORD se ne spominje samo YYZ i jos neke Aziske destinacije i to je to.
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ReplyDeleteSvaka cast Ceo G Hoganu G Vucicu i svim zaposlenim a posebno Pilotima.i drago mi sto sam od pocetka bio upravu.
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Svaka čast, pre svega, onima koje nisi pomenuo a to su g.Kondić i kabinsko osoblje.
DeleteG Kondic je naveden i svo osoblje je navedeno samo sam posebno naglasio Pilote .
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Great coverage again ex-Yu just like sunday. Keep up the good work. And congratulations for Air Serbia. Best regards from Malmo
ReplyDeleteRead the article. It tells you when they will get approval.
DeleteSorry I misplaced the comment. My bad. Completely agree with the poster thanks for the great work admin.
DeleteIn terms of timetable, how would it look?
ReplyDeleteDepart BEG @ say, 13-14:00.
Arrive JFK @ 17-18:00 (local time).
Depart JFK @ 20-21:00
Arrive BEG @ 9:00 or so.
Does that make sense in terms of travel time, loading at gate, disembarkment etc.?
The above schedule doesnt fit into any of JU's peak times. The A330 can be turned around in less than 2 hours.
DeleteWhat would be a better schedule for JU's arrival/departure waves? Perhaps it is better that the hours are reversed, so that JU leaves BEG late, and arrives in JFK in early morning.
DeleteWhat do you think is a better schedule?
I wrote a nice post about it maybe a month or 2 ago. Basically a 17,30-18,00 departure from BEG and a 12,30-13,00 arrival from JFK. This will inturn allow alot of regional connections to OTP, SOF, SKP, TIA, TGD, TIV, SJJ, SKG and summer time for DBV, SPU, PUY.
DeleteI expect something like:
DeleteBEG 0900 - 1300 JFK
JFK 1500 - 0600 BEG+1
That along with modifications in the entire schedule.
@JATBEGMEL
DeleteThat schedule could work well however i tend to give more importance to destinations such as TLV, BEY, SKG, ATH and IST (if a night flight is introduced) than the Ex-Yu region all combined. I am in favour of a third daily to Zagreb at night time. Anyway it wouldn't fit in either of the two schedules as it currently stands.
Egypt and return of LCA too.
DeleteAnd also HER during summer would be a smart addition.
@ Aerologic
DeleteInteresting point however the midnight wave would need to be boosted, that is, to have more flights. Not only that, most connections can only be made in 1 direction ie: BEY departs BEG at 23,45 whilst in your proposed schedule the JFK flight would arrive at 6am. The arrival time comes into the wrong waves. South and East is 1 wave group whilst the North and West is another. JFK (west) will be arriving in your schedule in the South and East wave.
Finally, I dont think many in the region will be willing to travel in the middle of the night to BEG to be catching the connecting flight to JFK, especially not the elderly.
My idea was that similarly to TLV a morning departure to BEY could be introduced on some days. All in all it remains to be seen and it will be hard to connect all the places in the network with a single daily flight.
DeleteJU finally back in the US again !!!! Yaehhhh :-))))
ReplyDeleteSo this is actually going to happen!
ReplyDeleteAir Serbia has a lot of positives going for it at the moment and I think the investments they made in the service they offer while most of the European and American airlines are going backwards here will definitely help boost their chances here.
If these investments end up profitable for the airline, well it will be a huge coup because they are bucking the trend here.
In saying that, I would take any talk of profitability with a grain of salt, even or especially if it comes from Hogan. At least for the next few years regarding Air Serbia but I'm sure the flow on benefits will make up for part of it.
The A330 is a great choice too, one of the most comfortable planes to fly on in my opinion.
To se ne desava samo u glavama (H)Rvata, ponekog Slovenaca i Dinkicevih drugara. Prica vam INN-NS sve vreme. Hogan nije dosao ovde da bude puslica AV. AV samo to koristi ponekad lupnuvsi nesto. Evropske kompanije imaju previse drugog staffa, a nedovoljno kabinskog osoblja. Videcemo sta ce napraviti od Al Italie. AB mu crkava.
DeleteOT: Ellinair to lauch flights to Belgrade from Corfu and Heraklion from June 2016
ReplyDeleteGo Serbia!
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