Aegean to launch Zagreb and Zadar service


Greece's largest carrier Aegean Airlines will launch flights from Athens to Zagreb next year, as well as new services to Zadar. Furthermore, the company will strengthen its operations to Belgrade, Podgorica, Dubrovnik and Split within the former Yugoslavia in 2018. Aegean will commence three weekly flights between the Greek and Croatian capitals from May 14, with services to run each Monday, Wednesday and Saturday with a 78-seat Bombardier Dash 8 aircraft from its Olympic subsidiary. In addition, the carrier will launch a two weekly seasonal service between Athens and Zadar starting May 22, each Tuesday and Saturday. The two new additions to its network complement the carrier's existing services in Croatia to Dubrovnik and Split.

Aegean plans to strengthen its operations to Dubrovnik next summer by operating daily flights from May 29 with a Dash 8 turboprop, up from the current four per week. During the current summer season, services have been maintained with a mix of Dash and Airbus aircraft. Meanwhile, from June 5, Aegean will add an additional weekly flight to Split for a total of four. Elsewhere, the Greek carrier plans to boost capacity to Belgrade with the airline to run three weekly services to the Serbian capital with a mix of Airbus A319 and A320 aircraft. While Aegean has been maintaining four weekly flights to Belgrade this summer, all are operated with the smaller Dash aircraft. In a show of confidence to its newly launched service between Athens and Podgorica, Aegean will increase frequencies on the route next summer from two to three per week.

Aegean's Public Relations and Press Director, Stavroula Saloutsi, recently told EX-YU Aviation News about the importance of the former Yugoslav market to the Greek carrier. "Aegean is considering increasing frequencies on existing routes, as well as adding further destinations in the former Yugoslav region. This is an important market for Aegean Airlines. Demand for these routes remain strong as passengers are able to travel to Athens and beyond. Our performance is satisfactory on this market, as is the cooperation we have with partner airlines in the region such as Air Serbia", Ms Saloutsi said. Aegean is expected to operate flights to Zagreb on a year-round basis. Its remaining services in the former Yugoslavia, with exception to Belgrade, are all maintained only during the summer.

Further flight details for the new Zagreb service can be found here, while additional information for the Zadar operations can be viewed here.

Comments

  1. Anonymous09:04

    Finally ATH-ZAG flights.

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    1. Anonymous11:30

      Finally - no need to go via VIE or BEG anymore!

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    2. Anonymous18:00

      one down, 8 more to go...

      Alitalia - returning
      SAS - returning
      Aer Lingus
      Air Baltic
      TAP - returning
      Iberia - year round, 300-320 000 Spanish visitors to Croatia, 34000 to Zagreb
      TAROM
      Air Ukraine International
      Finnair - Helsinki is a hit in Croatia, OU service proved massive hit.

      Arrival of LCCs would also be nice.

      EasyJet - return off
      Voltea
      Transavia France
      Vueling - year round service to Valencia, Seville and Barcelona. Number of Spanish visitors to Croatia is growing at 25% yoy.
      Monarch - Expanding to Birmingham, Edinburgh, number of Brits visitors up by 20% yoy. 720 000 expected this year, 120 000 expected in Zagreb. British visitors are 4th or 5th in number of stays in Zagreb, behind Austrians, Koreans, Germans, Americans, pushing Slovenians and Italians to 6th and 7th position respectively.

      1.1 million foreign visitors to Zagreb expected this year, 100 000 shy of record 1989 year when 1.2 million foreign visitors visited Zagreb. Total of 1.35 million visitors expected this year.

      Longer Term, would like to see, however this is a long term possibility, 2024/5...

      China Eastern - three times weekly
      Singapore Airlines - three times weekly
      ANA - three times weekly
      Thy International - three times weekly.
      Air Canada/R - Connecting Zagreb with Toronto, three times weekly.

      NYC - LOT B787 perhaps??? Would never fly with US airline, they're beyond shit, service and customer care is beyond appalling. LOT could be paid for the service, I'd invite Croatian Government to consider it. IPO - NYC could be done for 12 million kuna/$2 million per year for total of 120 flights per year. However, not sure it'll be legal.













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    3. Anonymous18:12

      Sigurno nije legalno to sto uzimas.

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    4. Anonymous00:31

      Anon @6.12 +1 lepe snove ali ko zna cime se proizvode!

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  2. Anonymous09:05

    Aegean is a really interesting airline that has been growing like crazy. It was only a matter of time before they added other routes to ex-Yu.

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  3. Anonymous09:07

    So only Ljubljana didn't work out for them -.-

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    1. Anonymous09:08

      It's surprising that their flights from Athens to Ljubljana didn't work out yet Podgorica does.

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    2. Anonymous09:30

      Well at least they tried Ljubljana. Here in Sarajevo no one even considers trying to fly.

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    3. Anonymous09:45

      LJu-ATH market is probably very small. Plenty of charters to the islands in the summer though.

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    4. Anonymous10:12

      @9.30

      At the begining of 2013, Aegean wanted to start serving BNX and so was in negotiation with both the BNX and the Government authorities. Neither the Ministry for Communication and transport of the Republic of Srpska nor the BNX Managing Board did what was agreed about so the flights weren't started.

      http://www.srna.rs/novosti1/78769/interesovanje-za-uspostavljanje-aviolinije-banjaluka-grcka-.htm

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    5. Anonymous15:52

      I would have been shocked if the BNX authorities didn't prove to be so incompetent...

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    6. Anonymous16:14

      Who would use that route from BNX?

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  4. Anonymous09:08

    They will be a great addition to Zagreb. A really good airline offering good service and connections.

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  5. Anonymous09:10

    Croatia Airlines might as well suspend Zagreb-Dubrovnik-Athens now.

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    1. Anonymous09:12

      Someone will tell you that the market is growing and that there is enough space for both :D

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    2. Anonymous09:19

      I agree with the first anonymous. Their ZAG-ATH via DBV simply isn't competitive against Aegean's nonstop flight.

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    3. Anonymous09:35

      I would rather expect OU to make ZAG ATH fligths non stop. Not retreat immediately. That is, if ZAG ATH ahd more pax than DBV ATH.

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    4. Anonymous09:51

      The lack of cooperation between OU and A3 is interesting, taking into account that both are member of Star Alliance.

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    5. I don't agree that OU's flights to ATH via DBV are uncompetitive. Connection times are decent and the total price was OK too...you could normally find return flights from 170 to 190 euros. During the peak season, 200 to 230 euros. Aegan is now selling ATH-ZAG-ATH for no less than 450 euros... Seems as their target are rather transferring pax (multi destination tickets with different connecting dates: i.e. pax from the U.S. who stop by in Croatia for several days), or business travelers. Aegan's direct sales approach does not look threatening for OU so far...

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    6. Anonymous11:10

      450 euros is crazy!

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    7. Anonymous11:14

      They just put the tickets on sale yesterday. They probably haven't opened all the subclasses yet and will do it when they make an official announcement of the new flights.

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    8. Perhaps you are right anonymous@11:14AM...
      So far, if you look at May 21st/May 28th ZAG-ATH-ZAG, OU's got 128 euro tickets, while Aegan's is 473 euro. OU's flight time is not bad - 3 hours and 30 min., while direct flight is 2 hours and 20 min. So, the flight duriation by OU is not bad at all...

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  6. Anonymous09:10

    Ovo je udar Aegeana na Balkan! Pocinje rat sa Turkishom! Spasavaj se ko moze :-D

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    1. Anonymous09:13

      Kako da ne, evo Turkish već razmišlja da gasi kompaniju jer nemaju šta da traže pored moćnog Aegeana...

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    2. Alen Šćuric Purger09:22

      Turkish leti za:
      - Skopje,
      - Prištinu,
      - Sarajevo,
      - Beograd,
      - Zagreb,
      - Ljubljanu,
      - Dubrovnik
      - Podgoricu

      i to u prosjeku sa 2 dnevna leta sa A320

      Aegean će letjeti za
      - Beograd
      - Zagreb
      te sezonski za
      - Zadar
      - Split
      - Dubrovnik
      - Podgoricu
      i to u prosjeku 3 puta tjedno u kombinaciji Q400 i A320.

      Baš i ne bih rekao da je to neka konkurencija. Više letova u ovom momentu ima Qatar od Aegeana.

      No, slažem se da je to odlična kompanija i izvrstan dodataka postojećoj konkurenciji, da Aegean ozbiljno raste, te da vidi ekspanziju u regiji.

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  7. Anonymous09:12

    Great to see not only the new destination but them increasing frequencies or capacity on all routes in ex-Yu.

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  8. Anonymous09:13

    They will do excellent job if they launch SKP but stupid politics...stops them. It might be their best route out of ex-Yu. Well, maybe one day...

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    1. Anonymous09:15

      +1

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    2. Anonymous09:20

      Interestingly Skopje was their first and only destination in ex-Yu for many years.

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    3. Anonymous09:22

      Aegean Q400's are ideal for ATH-SKP.

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    4. Anonymous09:37

      I agree but it won't happen because of politics. At least not until the name thing is resolved.

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    5. Anonymous09:46

      @ AnonymousSeptember 14, 2017 at 9:20 AM
      do you know which year they flew to SKP?

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    6. Anonymous10:01

      They started in December 2003.

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    7. Anonymous10:30

      And they used to operate it with ATRs! :)

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    8. Anonymous10:35

      It'd be wonderful if there is air traffic btw. MK and GR. Especially in summer season.

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    9. Anonymous11:20

      I can only support adding SKP to their destinations. They could easily take a bit of TK's transfer pax with their Q400's.

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    10. Anonymous11:36

      @9.20 Skopje was their first ever INTERNATIONAL destination (not only ex-yu), which is truly unbelievable from todays perspective :)

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    11. Anonymous11:38

      Aegean did a charter flight LCA-SKP for Nikosia Larnaka last year. So theres stil some hope :D

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    12. Anonymous11:41

      that should be APOEL NIkosia

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  9. Anonymous09:13

    Bad news for Croatia Airlines.

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    1. Alen Šćuric Purger09:23

      Yes it is.

      But they are so stupid not to listen what we repeat million times that Aegean will not wait and that 1stop option via DBV is not good alternative.

      The same think will happen when Alitalia or Vueling will start nonstop FCO-ZAG.

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  10. Anonymous09:16

    Aegean is an impressive company. Even though their operate from bankrupt Greece it has shown phenomenal growth and is highly profitable.

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  11. Anonymous09:21

    Whose using these flights between Croatia and Greece mostly? Croats or Greeks?

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    1. Anonymous09:35

      I think it is primarily Greeks. Do you really think they are counting on Croats from Zadar to fly to Athens?

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    2. Anonymous09:50

      A lot of Croatians go on holiday to Greece.

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    3. Anonymous10:07

      I don't think a lot of Croatians go on holiday there...Croatia outbound is so weak. It's just not their culture to fly and have holiday abroad.

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    4. Anonymous11:06

      Sta ti o kulturi znas?
      Sudeci po tvom postu, nista!

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    5. Anonymous12:01

      Meni je uvijek fascinantno kada netko u dvije sekunde zakljuci da cijeli narod ne putuje izvan svoje zemlje, jer eto, to nije njihova kultura.

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    6. Anonymous14:46

      Pa nije, saberes i oduzmes domace linije prema moru od stranih i vidis da Hrvati slabo lete. Cista matematika.

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    7. Anonymous15:07

      Da ima vise potraznje bilo bi i vise cartera iz ZAG-a.

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    8. Anonymous16:10

      Je li, Anon 3:07? Ja letim barem 3-4 puta godišnje na odmor i koristim redovne linije, imam plaću s kojom to mogu priuštiti.

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    9. Anonymous19:02

      @AnonymousSeptember 14, 2017 at 10:07 AM

      That is rather stupid post, loads of Croats go on holiday aboard, however most of them go in winters to Austria, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Slovenia and France. France, Spain, Italy and Far east in summer months.

      Australia, New Zealand, Canada and US are also becoming popular for visits. Every year 1.25 million Croats holiday abroad. Austria, Italy and Switzerland are most popular, during ski season, 750 000 leave Croatia during winters. Even Bosnia gets few Croatian tourists in winters.

      Tunis, Egypt, Morocco, are very popular in summer months, Tunis - 20 000 Croats go on holiday to Tunis each year, 12 000 to Egypt, 9000 to Morocco.

      Thailand, 7500 Croats went on holiday to Thailand last year. 6500 to Turkey, 4500 to Greece.

      However, in Winters in Austria Croatian is 2nd language, behind German. 400 000 Croats go there on holiday each year, and that number is growing, by 2020, 1.5 million Croats will go on holiday overseas. Austria will remain most popular tourist destination by far.

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    10. Anonymous19:35

      This figure shows how small outbound market by air is from Croatia. Majority of 1.5M tourists travel by land to the neibouring countries. If there is strong demand we would have seen more carriers in ZAG and more year round flight from the coastal airports.

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    11. Anonymous20:08

      400000 Hrvata mozda radi u Austriji.

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    12. Anonymous22:36

      Yeah but compare that number to BEG or LJU and you will see that proportionally it's a very small number.
      For example this summer BEG broke all records when over 700.000 people flew on charters alone during the three summer months.

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    13. Anonymous00:35

      @AnonymousSeptember 14, 2017 at 7:35 PM

      Well, most Croats go on holiday locally, so they drive a lot, Italy, Germany, Austria and Switzerland are really close.

      However, you don't fly to a skiing holiday, the gear alone requires extra room on the plane, boots, skies and warm clothing. So most Croats drive to Austria, southern Germany, Italy, France or Switzerland.

      In summer months most Croats in continental Croatia that go on holiday overseas, they fly. Some 400 000 fly out of Zagreb to Tunisia, Thailand, China, Morocco, Egypt, Canada, Australia, France, Spain....

      Once LCCs arrive, pretty certain more people will fly out for city brakes, now that pays in Croatia are catching up with the rest of the EU. Croatian average monthly pay to hit €1000 by 2020, currently it is €845.



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    14. Anonymous00:49

      If 400.000 really fly out then there would be a lot more charters than it is the case.

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    15. Anonymous04:50

      @AnonymousSeptember 15, 2017 at 12:49 AM

      Why ???

      You have Monarch, German Wings, Vueling... All offering decent price on city brakes. Number of carriers fly to Zagreb, including Emirates and Qatar. Tunis Air maintains summer twice weekly service to Zagreb, for 20 weeks or 40 rotations. Number of other charters to Zagreb every summer. However most Croats fly with major airlines.

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  12. Anonymous09:22

    That is really good news for Croatian passengers. TK will finally have real competition for flights to Egypt, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Iran.

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    1. Anonymous09:27

      Don't forget the 30+ other Greek airports you can reach with them via Athens.

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    2. Anonymous10:12

      I am more interested in their Caucasus and Middle East destinations where are extremely expensive to reach from ZAG currently.

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  13. Anonymous09:34

    Great news for Croatia.

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  14. Anonymous09:34

    And, unlike all other ex-YU airlines, A3 is a profitable carrier, despite the Greek crisis.

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    1. Anonymous09:54

      t is because as a 100% private company can operate properly and fly only the routes that are profitable and without having to hire the cousins and girlfriends of politicians like the old Olympic Airways did

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    2. Anonymous10:02

      *it

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    3. Anonymous13:01

      During the crisis it was exactly profitable BECAUSE of the crisis. Business travel demand has really surged especially outbound from Greece. You do not really think it was the tourists which saved them?

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    4. Anonymous22:35

      Aegean has complained about weak local demand so your argument is wrong.

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    5. Agean is a great example for all Greece to follow.

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  15. Anonymous09:35

    Hope they keep Zagreb year round.

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    1. Anonymous10:16

      I think they will make that decision next year based on the loads.

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    2. Anonymous13:45

      They already stated I think that ZAG will be year round.

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  16. Anonymous09:45

    Sweet

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  17. Anonymous09:47

    ASL will loose a lot of Croat and Greek passengers who travel between Croatia and Greece via BEG.

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    1. Anonymous09:51

      And I think that Aegean has a codeshare on JU flights to Zagreb, Dubrovnik, Split...

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    2. Anonymous09:56

      I doubt there was such a huge volume of passengers flying to Croatia via BEG. A few years ago maybe but now not so much.

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    3. Anonymous10:07

      BEG was the most convenient connection between Greece and Croatia but now it will be bypassed.

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    4. Anonymous10:09

      Wouldn't the most convenient connection between Greece and Croatia be Croatia Airlines route ATH-DBV-ZAG?

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    5. Anonymous14:37

      Jbt kako ne shvatas da ASL mora da pati?

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    6. Anonymous19:38

      @AnonymousSeptember 14, 2017 at 10:09 AM

      It was seasonal service, so only in summers.

      Air Serbia was best choice for Greece, via Belgrade. However, ASL has lost much of the pax in past 18 months on Belgrade - Zagreb - Belgrade route, from 46000 pax in 2015, down to around 40 000 in 2016 and still falling.

      Air Serbia is not offering decent price on transfers any longer.

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    7. Anonymous22:34

      Unfortunately that's a bad sign for the Zagreb-Greece market. It means that the moment fares go up a little bit, demand disappears. Let's hope A3 realizes this fast.

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  18. Anonymous09:54

    It is going to be an amazing year for Zagreb in 2018. More and more airlines coming each year. Great work.

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    1. Anonymous09:56

      Agree. Wonder what other newcomers we might see.

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    2. Anonymous12:04

      Druge zracne luke u regiji duplo brze rastu. To su mrvice, nazalost.

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    3. How yes no. Sve su stelarne, samo Zagreb trčkara. Ajde...

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    4. Anonymous12:00

      Look at LJU's growth.

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    5. And look at LJUs "growth" the year before. I rest my case.

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    6. With all respect to LJU's growth of 20% in 2018, a quick flashback to show what's been going on for 10 years. In 2008: ZAG 2,19 mil, LJU 1,67 mil...this is the number LJU is going after this year. I rest my case too.
      p.s. Iberia increased capacity to ZAG for 2018. by roughly 40%

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  19. Anonymous10:02

    Hopefully the route to Zagreb will do well and they will keep it for winter even with a reduced schedule.

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  20. Anonymous10:12

    Pa konačno! Bilo je i vrijeme. Nadam se da će se OU opametiti na vrijeme te prebaciti FCO bez stopiranja u SPU ili DBV, dok još nije prekasno.

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    1. Anonymous12:05

      A ja se nadam da to preuzme neki LCC.

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    2. Anonymous12:31

      Sto se tice DBV tu su vec zakasnili.
      Vueling ide preko zime 2p/w.

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  21. Anonymous10:19

    Aegean is a great airline and I'm really happy they are spreading their wings across ex-Yu.

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    1. Anonymous10:28

      But it's a shame that during winter they are almost non existent on ex-Yu market. Just flights to Belgrade in winter time.

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  22. Anonymous10:30

    Excellent news for Croatian consumers.

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  23. Anonymous10:32

    Like I said yesterday in the topic about Ryanair, Croatia Airlines has had years and years to adapt to changing market conditions with limited competition. Now it's becoming late. I completely agree with some other people here who have said that if they do not go nonstop between Zagreb and Rome they will loose out on that route too because someone else will come and launch it.

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    1. Anonymous10:35

      +100

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    2. Anonymous10:39

      A few years ago Etihad Regional announced it would start flights between Rome and Zagreb but in the end they didn't go through with it.

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    3. Anonymous16:20

      BTW, whatever happened with the govt's decision on the new OU CEO ?

      A few weeks ago it was supposed to be announced by the end of that week and nothing - same as always.

      Purger - do you know anything ?

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    4. Government in Croatia has been pretty busy with political and natural disasters.

      Probably just on the back-burner for now.

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    5. Anonymous18:13

      What happened with their union negotiations after the strike was cancelled ? Have they finally resolved their differences ?

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    6. @6:13

      This was also put on hold with a promise that negotiations would start for a new collective agreement after the tourist season.

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  24. Anonymous10:36

    That will be almost all European star Alliance airlines flying to Zagreb!

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    1. Anonymous10:39

      SAS, TAP and Adria still missing.

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    2. Anonymous10:44

      I believe SAS will come soon. TAP suspended flights last year.

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    3. Anonymous10:59

      lol you won't see Adria to Zagreb that's for sure.

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    4. Anonymous12:29

      Maybe with Darwin's Saab :D

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  25. Anonymous10:38

    It seems that Croatia will continue topping the charts in 2018 after the recent A3 announcement:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_airports_in_the_Former_Yugoslav_Republics

    It will be interesting to see if SPU approaches ZAG, after all its growth figures are amazing.

    Also if BEG is downgraded from 4 to 3, this means that there is more demand for O&D demand rather than transfer.

    Hoping to see flights to SKP, INI in 2019.

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    1. Nemjee15:06

      BEG never stood a chance, they had only one week flight meaning that connections to the Middle East were extremely limited. TK crushed them in BEG.

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  26. Anonymous10:40

    Almost all flights in the "New route launches" section of the site for next year are to Croatian cities.

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    1. Anonymous10:44

      That's usually the case. And 99% of those flights are summer seasonal.

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    2. Anonymous12:32

      why are you making it sound as if that is bad? Other dont have even "summer seasonal".

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  27. Anonymous10:54

    Nice. Good luck to them.

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  28. Anonymous11:01

    If OU does keep the (now obsolete) ZAG-DBV-ATH flight the least they could do is reduce the ticket price which were not cheap this summer.

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    1. Anonymous11:12

      Check prices, Aegean is 3 times more expensive on route than Croatia Airlines, and trip difference is only 50 min stop in DBV. I dont know who will pay 480EUR return ZAG-ATH??!

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    2. Anonymous12:09

      Cekaj malo, znaci ti mislis da bi OU morala nastaviti sa tom smjesnom vezom?

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    3. Anonymous12:17

      No, I did not say that. Just said that CA prices are better a lot than Aegean and probably, Aegean target is transfer pax via ATH.
      Still better to choose CA if you go only ZAG-ATH-ZAG.

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    4. Anonymous12:26

      There are more than enough (business) travellers woh pay this price!

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    5. Anonymous12:46

      I hope so!

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    6. Anonymous13:11

      It´s still too early. They haven´t loaded the fares yet.

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    7. business travelers as decisive factor in east europe airline business? not likely.
      this isn't singapore market.

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    8. Anonymous18:47

      It's tourism, stupid! Of course they made the flight to ATH go via DBV, for the same reason they have DBV-VCE-DBV, DBV-NCE-DBV, DBV-FCO-DBV. Do you think that Venetians come to visit Dubrovnik, or that people living in Dubrovnik go visit Nice? Tourists on city-hopping tours of the Mediterranean are their target.

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    9. Anonymous19:52

      Anon 6:47, I live in Dubrovnik and have visited Venice twice, I simply adore the city! How 'bout that?

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    10. Anonymous21:58

      Sure, that's a great travel opportunity for people in Dubrovnik! But they don't fly this route for you.

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  29. Anonymous11:02

    Just three flights per week? They are being really cautious.

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    1. Anonymous11:07

      They could have done 4-5 p/w especially since its on a Dash.

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    2. Anonymous11:12

      DBV was initially announced as 2p/w but before flights started they made it 4 p/w and next year it will be daily. So if they see that demand is there they will increase flights. If they have spare capacity of course.

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    3. Nemjee15:04

      The only difference is that DBV is filled with Greek holidaymakers.

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  30. Anonymous11:04

    Bravo Hrvatska!

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  31. Petar11:18

    The uniforms of the girls in the photo look realy nice and classy!

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  32. Anonymous11:52

    Does Croatia Airlines fly from Split to Athens too?

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    1. Anonymous12:11

      I think they don't. And they shouldn't. Logically legacy airlines operate all flights from their bases in order to achieve maximum efficiency. In that context, A3 operations from ATH to SPU, DBV, ZAD, ZAG all make sense, while for OU it should be all from ZAG. It's the politics I guess that forces OU to operate direct flights from SPU and DBV. Or stupidity, who knows? :)

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    2. Anonymous12:29

      Croatia flies between SPU and ATH! And they often used the 319 this year, which had healthy loads.

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    3. Anonymous20:07

      OU doesn't fly to ATH from SPU, they do from DBV with the leased CRJ.

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    4. They fly once a week from Spu to ATH

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  33. Anonymous13:03

    Just to clarify: A3 is planning to use OA equipment on flights to ZAG and ZAD?

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  34. Anonymous14:18

    Still high season 2017. and 2018. is already kicking off with announcements.
    9,6 million airports in Croatia for 2017. Could be around 11 million next year

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  35. Anonymous14:25

    So the duration is roughly 2 hrs on a turboprop.

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  36. Nemjee15:03

    Guys don't get too excited about this. Aegean might be growing but this growth is coming exclusively from markets which have a massive O&D demand.
    Smaller markets such as BEG, ZAG, SOF... will do fine for the airline only as long as they can fill most of their seats with point to point passengers.

    In other words, Aegean will stick around Zagreb only if the O&D market is large enough. If not then the route will be suspended just like Ljubljana was.

    In BEG they haven't managed to steal Middle Eastern passengers from Turkish, Air Serbia, Pegasus, Qatar... which is why they are reorganizing their flight times so as to improve connectivity to the Greek islands.

    Aegean doesn't have the necessary aircraft to fully commit to these 'secondary' markets like TK or OS can. They are still catching up with much larger players. I mean they've only recently launched five weekly flights to Amsterdam.

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    1. Anonymous17:26

      Oh please dear NEMJEE , you were recently praising them ( A3 ) for their professionality and now that they are investing more in croatia and not in belgrade , they are not good enough for you ? Come on !!

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    2. Anonymous17:32

      "investing more in croatia and not in belgrade , they are not good enough for you"

      Aegean has been flying to Belgrade year round for years and will increase capacity again there in 2018. Not everyone views aviation with a nationalistic and "mine is bigger" mindset like yourself. He is allowed to express his oppinion.

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    3. Anonymous18:24

      Nemjee is stuck.

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    4. Nemjee18:30

      Huh? All I said is that Aegean's growth has been coming mostly from places that have a lot of O&D demand for Greece.
      Just because I said that doesn't mean I have changed my opinion. This route will work only if there are enough p2p passengers.

      Unless you think Aegean can compete with TK with three weekly flights?

      Also, if you tone down your nationalism, you will see that I said pretty much the same for Belgrade. That's why they have revised their schedule.

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    5. Anonymous19:19

      Do we have any info how much of Aegean's traffic in ATH is O&D and how much is connecting?
      Many thanks for the interesting info!

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    6. Nemjee19:35

      Anon 19.19

      I read it some time ago and I can't remember the exact number but it was somewhere in the high 30s (transfer passengers).

      In Q1 this year Aegean and Olympic carried 2.1 million passengers, an increase of 5%. These are some very good results given the weak local demand and the seasonality of the Greek market.
      What's interesting is that in Q1 ATH recorded a double digit growth meaning that growth was mostly fueled by other airlines.

      By the way, Larnaca is the airline's top selling destination. In 2015 there were close to 900.000 passengers on all airlines flying between LCA and ATH.

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    7. Dejan20:06

      I found these:
      AEGEAN announces first half 2017 results with consolidated revenue at €450.7m, 12% higher compared to the respective period in 2016 and total passenger traffic rising by 6% to 5.6m passengers.

      During the second quarter of the year, revenue increased to €298.9m, 17% up compared to the respective quarter in 2016, without any increase in overall flight activity. The improvement in load factors by 9 ppt to 81% from 72%, resulted to a rebound in profitability with pre-tax and after-tax earnings at €23.2m and €15.8m, respectively, compared to pre-tax and after-tax losses of €2.1m and €2.2m in the second quarter of 2016.

      Total passengers carried for the second quarter increased by 7% with international network continuing to be the main driver with 12% growth. More specifically, international traffic from Athens International Airport grew by 17% with AEGEAN being the largest contributor to market’s growth.

      Mr. Dimitris Gerogiannis, Managing Director, commented:

      “We had a very strong start to the summer season. The maturing process of our international network, more effective capacity management and commercial policy as well a strong demand for Greece, have all contributed. Our performance in our Athens hub with 102 destinations continues to stand out, delivering 17% growth in international traffic.

      Given the traffic performance of July and August, we are highly confident for the performance of the third quarter of the year which substantially determines our full year results. Seasonality continues to be a key challenge with a weak first and last quarter of the year, especially as long as Greek customer demand remains low.”

      Source: http://newsroom.aviator.aero/aegean-first-half-2017-financial-results/

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    8. Anonymous20:35

      Nice info guys! Thank you Nemjee, thank you Dejan.

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    9. Anonymous21:00

      Interesting comparison of Q1 and H1. Thanks guys

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    10. What are their prices like in Belgrade?

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  37. Anonymous15:59

    I heard rumors that a new long-haul flight is going to be announced for ZAG within two weeks. ;)

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    1. Anonymous16:08

      Again with these rumours.

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    2. Anonymous16:13

      Well, the rumor regarding Aegean was true... Patience, my dear...

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    3. Anonymous16:23

      Yeah the rumour was started over 3 years ago. It was bound to happen one day. And those United 'rumours' every year are false. United just announced new routes to Europe and Zagreb is not one of them.

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    4. Anonymous16:37

      Who said it was United? It was just someone's wishful thinking.

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    5. Anonymous16:38

      Well if you know who it is why don't you just say it?

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    6. China delegation was in Zagreb the other day so you never know.

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    7. Anonymous17:10

      That exact same delegation was in Belgrade before that and went to Ljubljana afterwards. It was the envoy to the Chinese president. I doubt they discussed flights with Zagreb Airport.

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    8. No idea what will be announced but a previous anonymous who finished his comment with a ( wink;) ) had some inside info that was true so I'm thinking this might be for real.

      Soon find out.

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    9. Anonymous17:27

      Well why does he not just say what it is? It's not like someone is going to chase him and hunt him down for it. Otherwise don't say anything at all.

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    10. Anonymous17:42

      Ahahaha you're fun. Always the same rumor? ahaha

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    11. Anonymous19:27

      I don't think the route has anything to do with China, my bet is USA (seasonal).

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    12. Anonymous20:10

      Could it be Delta?

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    13. Anonymous20:12

      UA announced its Summer 18 schedule. So it is AA or DL left as candidates.

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    14. Anonymous20:19

      Maybe it's not US, would be nice if Anon 3:59 could at least tell us which country it is.

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  38. OT: Air Transat has just increased the YYZ-ZAG-YYZ capacity for 2018. by 38%. There will be a total of 12 extra rotations in 2018: the season will last 1 month longer (starting mid May, ending October 31st), while the 2pw schedule will also extend for the entire June, July, August and September.

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    1. Anonymous07:19

      Time for AirCanada Rouge in 2019!

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    2. Anonymous07:43

      Bravo Hrvatska!

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