Friday, May 8, 2015
Air Serbia has leased an ATR 72-500 aircraft, registered F-GRPK (pictured below), according to German magazine “Skyliner”. The nine-year-old turboprop, to be registered YU-ALV, is currently in Ajaccio in Corsica and is awaiting delivery to Belgrade. The aircraft is on lease from Air Corsica but has previously operated for ČSA Czech Airlines as well. The Serbian carrier is yet to issue an official statement on the aircraft’s lease. The arrival of the ATR will make it the sixth aircraft of its type in the carrier’s fleet and the twentieth overall.
Wow, what a growth! Another old ATR joining fleet of old Airbuses, ATRs and Boeings. Wonderful. Just wonderful! Way to go Etihad! I mean, ersrbija... Sta god, uvek me zbuni arabeska na repu.
ReplyDeleteI know that the expansion of Air Serbia greatly bothers you, but try to not let others know about your frustration.
DeleteCREW, you comment is so cynical and tactless, that it's borderline childish.
DeleteGrowth it is, which is reflective of Air Serbia being the dominant airline in the ex-YU region, with the largest fleet. The core Air Serbia fleet, less the Aviolet birds, is far from old, and is an average age fleet, as compared to other airlines in the wider region. At under 10 years, the new ATR can not be classified as being old.
A ta "arabeska", kako velis, je reprezentacija srpskog krasnopisa sa pocetka 12-og veka. Malo se obrazuj, pre nego sto se izlupetas kao Maksim po diviziji.
evo nervoznih jatovaca kojima je propala koncepcija "Boeingom 727 u 21 vek"...
DeleteDok je Er Srbijin koncept '30 godina starim avionom u 21. vek'...
Delete@3:38 pazi, ako nemas sta pametno da napises, nije obavezno da lupas gluposti...
DeleteNije nista gluplji komentar od ovog u 13.55.
DeleteB733, koji imaju skoro 30 godina, odrzavaju Er Srbijin saobracaj u zivotu.
Vazno je da ti znas sta je Air Serbijin koncept za 21 vek. Kad nista vise vam ne ide po planu u vezi vasih zlonamernih prognoza, onda se stalno hvatate na tu pricu o matorim Boinzima, k'o pijan plota. Ne brini se. Nit ce se Boinzi rapasti u letu, nit ce Air Serbia da propadne. Tako jedino ti preostaje da poradis malo na sopstvenim frustracijama i gorcini.
Delete@4:16 AirSerbina flota AirBasova nije nista starija u proseku od kompanija iz zapadne Evrope a sto se tice B737 pogledaj listi dvadesetogodisnjaka u najvecim kompanijama...
DeleteASL - A319 - 10,9 godina
ASL - A320 - 9,4 godine
Lufthansa B737 x 20 - 23,8 godina
Germawings A320 x 17 - 23,8 godina
Austrian F70/100 x 42 - 21,3 godine
British B737 x 5 - 22,4 godine
B767 x 14 - 21,2 godine
B747 x 42 - 20 godina
KLM B747 x 25 - 20,8 godina
United B767 x 57 - 21 godinu
MD80/90 x 122 - 22,8 godina
danas je prosečna starost flote na JU nešto mladja sa ovim AT7.
DeleteDogodine dolaze još mladji, možda i novi sa lizinga Regionalci, kao i tri Etihadova A332 iz 2006-2009.
...nemoj da razocaravas Jat-ovce
Delete@ CREW
Deletecomparing to 2013 where half the fleet was grounded, I wouldnt complain.
Croatia Q400s are 7 years old...
ReplyDeleteAnd your point is?
DeleteI would like to remind everyone what we learned from the recent horrific crash of the Flight 9525, and all the surrounding analysis. It was clearly and repeatedly stated by the aviation experts that a 24 year old Airbus 320-200 that crashed is not any less safer than a new one if properly maintained.
ReplyDeleteActually most dangerous planes are those brand new.
DeleteEnough said by looking in our backyard, where Turkish is an excellent example of writing off new aircraft. Then there is Lion Air from Indonesia...
DeleteI am very surprised Ex-Yu didn't write a side-note about Turkish Airlines accident in Nepal.
DeleteWhat does Turkish Airlines accident in Nepal have to do with ex-Yu aviation?
DeleteWhat Saudi landing in Israel has to do with Ex-Yu aviation? I am talking about global news, you - dumb.
DeleteNot to be confused - the first picture (upper one), shows YU - ALO , ATR 72 - 200, as it has just 4 propeller blades.
ReplyDeleteWhat a pity this excellent site is so often host to idiotic comments.........better just to read the news, not the views.
ReplyDeletePersonally I like to read the different views of the readers - but I think and recommend ADMIN should be much stricter in the comment section - any post including an offense or insult should be removed asap. Same goes for OTs which are not marked as such.
DeleteThat would drive off those sometimes rude/arrogant "limelighters" and racists lowering the level of discussions on this great blog when they know they do no longer have a platform.
Hopefully more of these will join the fleet so that JU can add more regional destinations/frequencies. When it comes to regional flying, the Atr is the way to go.
ReplyDeleteWhat ASL needs desperately is more routes such as Beirut. Some of those routes are Tehran, Amman, etc. We talked about it yesterday. I am not saying regional expansion is a bad idea, but it was already completed with opening of Sofia, Bucharest, Banja Luka, Budapest, Prague, Tirana, Zagreb, Varna,etc. The European and Middle Eastern expansion still did not occur. ASL just opened Abu Dhabi, Beirut, and Warsaw from non regional destinations.
DeleteI really do not understand to why you think that we need more regional expansion. ASL does not fly to Spain, yet you think that it would be better to open Cluj.
Instead of regional expansion, it would be good enough if they manage to keep the current regional network as it is. And for that they'll need to introduce more "Beirut-like" routes and transatlantic/long-haul ASAP. The airline simple isn't profitable on this scale. Also i think it would be stupid to close BUD before launching transatlantic or trying it as a night flight instead.
DeleteJU needs to step up the midnight wave to feed the morning flights ex BEG. Also something more from the 6pm wave as not enough is feeding say JU800 for AUH.
DeleteJU absolutely needs to consolidate its regional network because of its split schedule.
DeletePeople from Bucharest, Sofia, Thessaloniki... don't have daily connections to places such as Stuttgart, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Stockholm and so on.
I absolutely agree with JATBEGMEL, they need more flights in the midnight wave, especially to regional destinations, Istanbul included. JU has a great advantage there, the sectors are short and are operated by the Atr so they can be more competitive than Lufthansa or Austrian Airlines; of course, in terms of price, not connectivity.
I simply can't understand why didn't they upgrade Tirana to double daily flights. This winter flights were on average 82% full from what I heard.
Nemjee, if I remember correctly during the winter time the flights were 3 p/w. Now they are upgrading them to daily.
DeleteAnother weird thing is that the thing somebody posted " proposed changes for winter season" also included reducing Tirana back again to 3 weekly. I cant wait to see what happens with that plan, and am hoping for good outcome.
My proposal for Tirana would be to do the same thing as with Zagreb and Ljubljana, increase it to double daily ASAP. Unlike these two, Tirana has a bigger potential because you can tap into the lucrative Albania to western Europe market.
DeleteFor all those interested, here is a link to YU-ALV's history:
http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/ATR/ATR-42/727,F-GRPK-Czech-Airlines-%28CSA%29.php
I don't understand why some are complaining that it's 9 years old. That's not bad.
Regarding Belgrade-Tirana route : as soon as ASL had switched to daily connection, load factor fell below 60%.
DeleteWell, that's to be expected, no? It takes time to fill those additional seats. I am sure that during the summer season loads will be back in the 80s.
DeleteNice news for ASL indeed!
ReplyDeleteYes, we all would like brand new turboprops and jets, but sometimes dreams and reality are different. In time the fleet will get younger, that is the plan at least. So lets stay positive - one extra aircraft in the fleet is great news!!
Any idea till when the aircraft is gonna be leased?
ReplyDelete5 years apparently
DeleteVise aviona u floti, veca ponuda na trzistu. I obrnuto...
ReplyDeleteZa ostalo se brinu ljudi u Er Srbiji. To je glavno. Mi na blogu pricamo svak svoju pricu... Ostavimo ljude na miru. Nece unaprediti mnogo poslovanje. Cast samo vrlo retkim na ovom forumu koji dublje poznaju ovu problematiku ... Sto se mene tice, ocigledno sam zadnji od ostalih na ovim stranicama. Eto opet se javljam. Ponekad. Pozdrav iz Sidneja. Rodney ✈Home of QANTASVILLE I✈.
Just out of curiosity, is it possible to upgrade engines of old AT72 by installing 6-blade propeller.
ReplyDeletePlanned to arrive on monday, 11.05. 19:45h from Aéroport Ajaccio Napoléon Bonaparte
ReplyDeleteKoliko samo pacenika koji mrze od jutra sebe a od podne ceo svet..Air Serbia je ponos a vi mozete samo da se jedete iznutra
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