Adria’s A319s moving to Belgrade
Jat Airways CEO, Vladimir Ognjenović, said yesterday that the Serbian carrier will take delivery of two Airbus A319s and two A320s in the last week of May and early June. The arrival of the leased aircraft should ease the carrier’s fleet problems which have forced it to cancel numerous flights throughout the year due to a shortage of aircraft. According to Mr. Ognjenović, two Airbus A319s will be leased from Slovenia’s Adria Airways. BOC Aviation, Asia’s largest aircraft leasing company will provide one A320 each. The arrangement raises questions as to how Adria will be able to lease both of its A319s and maintain its summer schedule with a fleet of smaller Bombardiers and a single A320. The aircraft are to be on lease to Jat until 2016. One of Adria’s A319s (registered S5-AAP) has been operating ad hoc charter flights for British car manufacturer Land Rover over the past few motnhs.
Last week the Serbian government cleared necessary funds for the lease of the new aircraft which will also include an ATR72-500. Originally, two ATRs were planned to join the fleet, however, currently there are not enough available on the market. As a result, one ATR will be leased, while the second once it is available. The ATR in question is likely to be leased from the ILFC leasing company and was formerly owned by Azerbaijan’s AZAL Airlines.
Jat’s cabin crew and pilots will begin training for the new Airbus aircraft next Friday. The training process is set to last for a month. Mr. Ognjenović yesterday expressed hope that Jat and Airbus will resolve their issues relating to the 1998 order for eight Airbus aircraft. “We wish to continue our fleet renewal process and we hope to finalise a contract with Airbus for the purchase of four aircraft”, Mr. Ognjenović said. He added, “With that, we would completely renew our fleet by 2015”. Jat has made a 23.5 million dollar advance payment on the aircraft.
We are being distracted from the fact at EZY launched to Beg yesterday. How did that go?
ReplyDeleteEZY launches flight on Friday
DeleteOh I thought it was April 15 launch not 19 sorry
DeleteEX-YU admin, I talk with inside sources of Adria Airways and there is no any info about to lease A319 into Jat and also CEO of Adria Airways was denied this kind of news...
ReplyDeleteWell, the CEO of Jat is an idiot but I doubt he is that big of an idiot. Maybe people in Adria do not want to make any comments until they figure out what they will do this coming summer season.
DeleteNo ATR 72-500 on market?! Is this a joke?!
ReplyDeleteThere are Atr 72-500s on the market but there are no aircraft which are in a good enough condition. Most of them are nearing to their D checks. So no, it is not a joke.
DeleteWhat about leasing the BH ATR that is coming out of maintenance any day?
DeleteJAT-ovi piloti i A-bus, biti će to Aero Show svaki dan!
ReplyDeleteХа? Шта то треба да значи?
DeleteEx-Yu, i'm sorry but the image chosen is really ugly. But the first image you used yesterday from BEG was really nice.
ReplyDeleteThank you!
DeleteI am really glad for Jat. Hopefully together with Etihad they will make a real regional airline and a great player on this market.
ReplyDeleteWhen might we see them in the reservation systems?
ReplyDeleteIma pilota koji jos ni 737 nisu savladali kako treba, ovo ce stvarno da bude show! :)))
ReplyDeleteЈој мајко... колико си патетичан.
DeleteJat ima povijesnu šansu, da ga proširenje suradnje na samo 50% od najavljivanog može izvući iz govana u kojima je već odavno (uz već odobrenih 170 milijuna EUR dugova koje je vlada otpisala bez ikakvih uvjeta kao što ih ima CTN) a ZAG staviti u razinu sa SJJ, SKP, TGD (za što baš i ne treba previše), dok će BEG ozbiljno iskočiti.
ReplyDeleteTu samo ostaju još tri stvari:
1. Pričekati rezultate skeninga, koji će biti hladan tuš za Srbiju - tek nakon toga će se znati što i kako dalje
2. Nadati se da Srbi ovaj puta neće uprskati kao što su uprskali toliko puta do sada
3. Vidjeti hoće li Hrvatska (CTN i ZLZ) imati kakav odgovor - Bog te pitaj jel oni uopće shvaćaju kolika je ovo opasnost, te ako i shvaćaju mogu li (EU, Lufthansa, vlastita nesposobnost) i žele li nešto napraviti
Možebitnu suradnju sa Etihadom nemoj gledati u kontekstu zračnog businessa nego u kontekstu poljoprivrednog zemljišta koje Srbija ustupa Abu Dhabiju, hotela, cargo centra, Jat Tehnike, ostalih investicija. A hoće li Srbi ovu šansu iskoristiti, to je već drugo pitanje. U svakom slučaju oni su svoj deal sa Bliskim Istokom napravili, naš odlazak u Qatar baš i ne donosi nekih rezultata. I na koncu, nedaj Bože da se desi da će CTN još biti sretna da bude feeder za Jat i radi linije sa Q400 iz DBV, SPU, PUY, ZAD, RJK i ZAG za BEG.
U ovom momentu Jat:
- hitno nabavlja 5 novih aviona, uz nastavak nabave do 10 novih komada (8 A319/320 i 2 ATR 72-500)
- ozbiljno širi broj letova (frekvencija i linija)
- ima izuzetan code-share sa Etihadom kojeg opako može iskoristiti
- Etihad kao partner će ih zaštititi od Lufthanse i sličnih koji su ih tlačili u prošlosti
- ima ozbiljne planove za budućnosti
...dok istovremeno Croatia:
- smanjuje flotu (za sada jedan, a možebitno i više aviona pod pritiskom i uz prijetnje EU)
- nema mogućnosti nabave novih aviona u idućih 5 godina (Kučko je izjavio da se ne mogu nabavljati novi avioni dok traje restrukturacija i opet pod pritiskom i u z prijetnje EU)
- rapidno smanjuje broj linija i frekvencija, te tržište prepušta konkurenciji (zbog pritiska EU)
- povlači se sa tržišta exYU, a jedino je povećao linije prema LH hubovima, dočim je vidljivo da je politika tvrtke biti LH feeder (budućnost: Dolomiti sa bazom u MUC i isključivo linijama iz DBV, SPU, ZAD, PUY, RJK, ZAG, OSI prema MUC, te pokojoj prema ZRH, VIE i FRA)
- nema nikakve vizije suradnje kojima bi se smanjilo ucjenjivanje Lufthanse ili proširila suradnja i na istok (Bliski Istok, Australija, Daleki Istok, Rusija i CIS), zapad (SAD, Kanada, Latinska Amerika) i jug (Sjeverna Afrika, Italija, Španjolska)
- ima ozbiljan problem sa djelatništvom kojem je puna kapa smanjenja konstantnih smanjenja prava već 10 godina i još najave ozbiljnih otpuštanja - a takvi demotivirani i depresivni sigurno neće pomoći kompaniji nego sam odmoći (štrajkovima, lošim radom, odbijanjem dodatnog rada...).
Јат се налазио у истој ситуацији као и Кроациан све до 2010. када се отргао Луфтхансиног робства и постписао споразум са КЛМом. Ту је знантно оштетио Луфтхансу пошто се огроман број путника преусмерио ка Амстердаму и Паризу.
DeletePurger, i love you!
DeleteOK, thanks, but when I will write something against Jat or Belgrade next time (you will never heard insult from me, but real criticism) you will again call me Ustaša, Serbian hater, frustrated, jealous, idiot etc...
DeleteI was just a bit ironic. Anyway glad to hear some reasonable staff from you, i guess it compensates for what we've heard before and what earned you that reputation.
DeleteOn a more personal note Purger,are you planning some trips in near future?
Yes, in next 5 months to France, Belgium, Czech Republic 3 times, to USA (New York and Las Vegas), and of course several times to Bosnia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Hungary, Italy (but I don't count this as trips).
DeleteI will also come to Serbia (Bela Crkva, Pancevo, Novi Sad and Apatin) for some 5 days. Why?
I am sorry that I earned that reputation, but my criticism is always same. On same level to Zagreb airport as Belgrade airport, to Croatia as Jat... Trust me, CEO's of Croatia Airlines and CEO of Zagreb airport really make my life hard because of my criticism. My business have a big problems because of it. They hate me much more than you.
But I understand it is hard to hear criticism when it is against you, than when it is against someone else. And when ever my criticism was against BEG or Jat it was based on facts and usually it happens that way.
have = has, of course... :-)
DeleteWho is going to dare flying with jat?
ReplyDeleteNo Planes, No Pork, No Brandy.
ReplyDeleteSo far this year we have had the following reports:
ReplyDeleteJanuary 14 - EXCLUSIVE Jat Airways fleet renewal
January 16 - Fleet shortage hits Jat
January 21 - Jat’s fleet crisis deepens
January 25 - Jat confirms fleet plans
January 29 - Jat to decide on future fleet on Thursday
February 4 - Jat’s fleet renewal approved
February 14 - Government approves Jat fleet renewal
February 23 - Jat and Aviogenex considering joint venture
February 27 - Seven offers for Jat’s fleet renewal
And today we have:
April 16 - Jat to lease Adria’s Airbuses
So why sould we believe this one, when the previous 9 stories turned out to be bullshit?
Because the fleet renewal could not be done until the Russian credit was approved. Since it happened last week Jat could only get the funds now. That is why.
DeleteIt is up to you whether you want to believe the CEO of the airline. This is a report of what he said. The article raises the question as to how this will happen since it would seriously impact Adria’s operations. And yes, EX-YU Aviation was the first to report that a fleet renewal plan has been made back in January, which obviously did turn out to be true. Whether it will materialise is up to the airline and its owner.
DeleteWho is asking you to believe? Just turn a blind eye and live your damn life.
DeleteEX-YU, could you tell as more about the A320 aircraft, when are they supposed to enter the fleet, configuration etc.?
DeleteThanks.
There is a mistake in the article about A320 - one plane each. IT doesn't cite the second plane is gonna be leased from AWAS Aviation Capital.
DeleteOne month of training is not enough to be a full pilot on an airbus. Jat should stick with Boeing, they will get their pilots trained for airbus then they will leave to go to other airlines.
ReplyDeleteThey'll be flying with a supervisor. The Airbus is due to having a fleet commonality with Etihad.
DeleteOT: Macedonian Airports pax growth March 2013 +24,3%!! SKP +21.9% OHD +120%! Pure amazing!!!
ReplyDeleteHow many passengers did each of them handle?
DeleteTotal number 71. 598; OHD 3.164. The rest is SKP
ReplyDeleteThe summer schedule for Adria has already started, yet check to see how much use the A319s are getting:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lju-airport.si/eng/passanger-visitors/flight-info/departures
Since more and more LJU passengers are flying from Venice, unfortunately it seems they can do without them this Summer.
Wow... but maybe their utilization will improve in summer?
DeleteDaylight dreamer
DeletePlease check also flights from PRN , because on of the A319 has station there and this is the reason why on LJU timetable is no many flight with A319. If this info is true Adria should lease another planes for summer charter. This summer has many flight from LJU and also from MBX.
Deletehttp://tangosix.rs/2013/16/04/erbas-jatovi-piloti-mogu-biti-obuceni-za-25-dana/
ReplyDeleteJP confirmed me that JU will lease the two A319s
ReplyDeleteHowever no Information how they are going to keep up the summer schedule with all the Charters plus the PRN-Germany and PRN-Italy flights...
Who confirmed tat JU will lease A319, because few sec. ago I was talking with some people from JP and nobody know nothing about this...
DeleteU see now u know who has the better source in the company :-)
DeleteLets wait and see. In god and ex YU news we trust ;-)
If Adria really provides Jat with the A319s then it could spell the end of their base in Pristina. This would come as great news for Dubrovnik as they could rank higher on the Yugoslav scale of airports.
DeleteI doubt they would base an CRJ 900 there.
For all the haters, do you realize that Etihad launched daily to Belgrade ahead/instead of some eminent destinations around Europe such as: Rome, Zurich, Warsaw, Budapest, Kiev, Bucharest, Madrid, Barcelona, Vienna...do you get it now?
ReplyDeleteI guess that means Belgrade is better than all those cities.
DeleteYupp, you are right Doot, right as always.
Deletecurrently ...
DeletePrices ex- Belgrade for Asian destinations (in July August) are so cool compared to e.g. Milano. Way cheaper.
why do u care about the haters if there is any at all? Who is not happy for JU and BEG is probably on the wrong blog anyway. We meet at ex YU blog and BEG is an important part of the ex YU
ReplyDeleteAnyway, regarding ZRH. Hard to say why they did not open it. I started to represent Etihad immediately after they launched flights to GVA, back in 2004. At that time there was no QR in Switzerland, neither EK was flying to GVA. They only had one daily ZRH flight in the afternoon.
The deal was EK does not touches GVA and EY not ZRH. But than EK launched 2nd daily ZRH and QR launched GVA and later even ZRH. Back in June 2011, EK launched daily GVA. EY still not in ZRH. Late 2011 even Oman Air connected ZRH with 4 weekly A330-200/300 and still does.
EY to ZRH was 2-3 times a rumour but until today, no realization.
However with the current circumstances, I don t see the need of EY flying to ZRH as long the load factors of their competitors do not improve.
There must be something on JP A319 lease:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.phoenixaircraftleasing.com/aircraft-listing/two-a319-100s-available-acmi
Is it true that Oman Air has very bad loads?
ReplyDeleteThe last load factor until March I heard fm the country mgr is 75% for ZRH-MCT incl C class.
ReplyDeleteDon t have any information about other legs. Best destination sold ex ZRH besides MCT is BKK
Thanks for the info JU520 BEGLAX !
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