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| Split Airport expected to become third busiest in EX-YU |
Split Airport anticipates it will become the third busiest in the former Yugoslavia this year, behind only Belgrade and Zagreb. The airport, which handled 1.581.734 passengers in 2013, estimates it will see growth of 4-5% this year, which could be enough to offset Pristina Airport which is dealing with the collapse of its busiest carrier that declared bankruptcy in December last year. After a slow start to 2014, Split Airport has seen its numbers increase almost 20% in April and overall growth of 4% in the first four months of the year. On the other hand, Pristina Airport recorded a decline in passenger numbers by over 20% in the first quarter. Attaining the position of third busiest airport in the EX-YU region, for a primarily seasonal airport, would be a big achievement for Split.
As a result, late last week the airport announced that it has secured a permit to expand its terminal building which will have the capacity to cater for two million passengers per year or 2.400 passengers per hour. Commenting on the future investment, Split Airport CEO, Lukša Novak, said, “With the planned reconstruction and expansion of the terminal building the airport will expand its facilities by 34.500 square metres, which will increase capacity”. Construction is expected to begin after the summer season and is valued at sixty million euros. Within Croatia, besides Split, Dubrovnik Airport recently announced the resumption of its major expansion project while work is progressing on Zagreb Airport’s new terminal.
Split Airport expects a busy summer ahead with a total of 2.139.706 seats being offered to eighty destinations in 22 countries, both inside and outside the European Union. The airport has also secured flights to new markets such as Greece and Scotland this year. Only last week, ČSA Czech Airlines announced the launch of seasonal flights from Prague after a three year break while newcomer Air Croatia will inaugurate services in a few weeks time. “At this moment, we can confirm that a total of 46 carriers have announced flights to and from Split. We can also anticipate additional charter flights”, the airport says. It adds, “A significant number of private aircraft will arrive as well, as noticed over the past few years”. Split Airport still holds the title for handling the most passengers in a single day, trumping both Belgrade and Zagreb.
Yesterday, Air Serbia OTP-BEG, Boeing 737-300, 79 pax of 126 seats = 62%.
ReplyDeleteBEG-OTP (42,1%)
OTP-BEG (62,7%)
= 52,4%
U flew as a Pax and u were counting the pax, unbelievable. Aren t we freaks :-)
DeleteAlso yesterday Beg-Saw 120 pax out of 126 seats, Mxp-Beg 116 pax... So, whats your point?
DeleteHe was asked by some people on this blog to report on his flight to Bucharest.
DeleteIt is unbelievable that in those times when Serbia is flooded some Serbs find time to provoke Croatians. However, we in Croatia pray for your people. God be with you!
DeleteO yes, I am fucking freak on that!
DeleteUsually I calculate 2 times number of pax:
- on boarding (I am last one to enter the plane, so I sit next to boarding and calculate those who board),
- and than I "have to" go to toilet, and than calculate them again to be sure.
Obsession. At least you have 100% right to call me freak on that
:-)
haha , i used to do that 5-10 years ago on my flights to SKP ( when flights were usually half empty ). now it makes no sense i switched to Wizz and theyre usually full
DeleteWell, why didn't you just ask the purser how many passengers there were on board? It is mandatory for them to count the passengers before closing the doors (unless they are flying on the two A6 registered aircraft).
DeleteNemjee, pa zamisli dođeš purserici i kažeš "oprostite molim vas, koliko putnika ima na letu". U najmanju ruku bi me žena čudno pogledala, onda bi se pitala koji mi klinac treba takva informacija i 50% je šanse da mi kaže "žao mi je ali to nije javni podatak", poglavito kada kompanija nastoji prikazati bolju situaciju nego što jest jer je tak u procesu stvaranja nove kompanije. Neugoda sam tako. Njoj koja će me vrlo vjerovatno otkaznati u strahu da neće imati posljedica takvo njeno možebitno izdavanje podataka (ja to objavim i netko je opere zašto daje takve podatke), i meni kojeg će otkaznati (na finiji ili manje fin način).
DeleteOn my flight to AUH i was able to get pax load from the crew :) crew was actually very nice and friendly.
Delete@ Purger, when will you give us a trip report? would love to read one :)
nemje was again trying to be too smart . one of his many useless postings
DeleteActually, next time while they are checking your boarding pass, take a look at the computer screen on the desk, that's where it shows the total number of passengers on the flight. As far as I know the number of passengers is not some sort of secret, feel free to ask either the cabin crew or the people at the gate, I am sure they will tell you.
DeleteSometimes a captain tends to announce the number of passengers in the aircraft.. when I flew with a380, captain told us there were 511pax on board
DeleteWhen i saw beg-saw last Tuesday there were only 35 or so pax!!! RT on Sunday was about 80-90
DeleteIt is tempting to extrapolate LF results based on a few flights/samples but that is not always accurate. In 4 months from now results will be available for the summer season and that would be better indication how things are moving with LF.
DeletePurger would you mind sharing the overall experience on both of the flights
DeletePurger would you minds haring your experience on both of the flights, like a report
DeleteI will, today night or tomorow
DeletePurger, what do you think, they're starting on building the new terminal in Zagreb today, with 8 air bridges, do you find it good, did you expect more or less air bridges?
DeleteIt is totally unimportant if there would be 8 or 10 air bridges.
DeleteEven now 8 bridges are not enough. On peak time you have more than 8 A320/737 planes in same time. But that is 3 times per day and even in FRA most of A320/737 are not on air bridges but passengers are transport by buses. So it is not important. 70-80% of big planes will be on air bridges in peak time, 100% in rest of the time, and 20-30% of big planes + small planes in peak time will be on bus stands.
Ok, thanks, are you satisfied that they're finally building the terminal? I'm a Croat as well, from Dubrovnik, and always love reading your comments, so I'd like to know what your thoughts are about the new airport
Delete1. I am sure that new terminal will not be opened on time.
Delete2. But there is huge possibility that biggest shareholder as building company wants just to build extremely expensive terminal (financed mostly by banks) and than they can proclaim bankrupt as their “sister” company was registered in England with just 1,00 EUR. If they do that:
- they could take lot of money from old terminal for another 5 years (3 during building + 2 for delays because of “problems they will find”) with huge taxes they introduces almost first days they take over airport (do you know that they can postpone paying of concession fee for 3 years if they will not have profit – so what if they do that, transfer profits to mother company and then “bankrupts”)
- then they could abandon extremely expensive terminal as it will be 100% paid to them till building by banks. As Croatian government guarantee for investment in case of bankruptcy Croatia will pay for credits so for much more expensive terminal than real. In that case they will not have any consequences as bankrupt would be just “sister” company worth 1,00 EUR. But original mother company will get all the profit from 5 year of conducting old terminal + extremely expensive new terminal (where profit of building is at least 200%).
One have to ask himself why building company is the one who want to work in air business instead of airports.
If I would have contract like this I would do something like this scenario.
Pa da, to sto govoris, skroz ima smisla... Inace mi predobro zvuci da kod nas projekt takvih razmjera uspije bez nekakve katastrofalne afere... na kraju sve cemo to mi platiti - porezni obveznici :) Lijepa naša silovana
DeleteThe way SKP is growing, I can see them going third in 1-2 years behind BEG and ZAG.
ReplyDeleteWell, I don't see SKP surpassing SPU in near future.. Split will probably be around 1.7mil passengers this year, and Skopje even with 20% growth will be around 1.18mil passengers... so still 500k difference...
DeleteAnyway, I'm cheering for both airports. Good luck from Split!
In 2011 SKP have - 759.918 and to the end of this year I thing skopje will have 1.250.000 pax so for 3 year 500.000.... I thing Split it's not untouchable for next 2 year !!! ;) Best wishes.....
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Skopje might beat both airports because lately SKP took most passengers of PRN and SKP can be 3rd airport. SKP is lucky close to PRN which Wizz Air low cost and took their passengers otherwise never can be 3rd even 4th airport of EX-YU.
DeleteI hope so, but who knows what will happen this summer
ReplyDeleteSummer season 2014 just begin so it's still early.
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DeleteCan someone help me out. Either the numbers in the article are wrong or I do not understand methodology in calculating pax numbers.
ReplyDeleteif hourly number of pax is 2.400 that is 57.600 per day. Multiplying by 365 we get 21.0240.000 pax.
I understand this is the extreme if every single minut in the year is used up but isnt that how the capacity is calculated?
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Looks beautiful, Split is a huge hit this year, 46 carriers is great! Good luck to all the Ex-Yu airports and keep my fingers crossed for all the people in Serbia, Bosnia and Croatia in flooded areas!
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.tportal.hr/vijesti/biznis/333709/Za-30-mjeseci-Francuzi-otvaraju-novi-terminal-na-Plesu.html?utm_source=nasl_vijesti&utm_medium=klik_vijesti&utm_campaign=Track_nasl_vijesti
8 aviomostova, nije loše, sad još treba povećati promet i spasiti Croatia Airlines!
So eight it is, there was no need for 10.
ReplyDeleteIf it is 8 air-bridges and have one half of small planes , how can it result with 5 M passengers? Is announced capacity is calculated wit couple of A380 on one deck, and on the others mixed wide body and A321? As BEG has same capacity (maybe little bigger) wit present 16 bridges and at least 4 stands excluding B platform?
DeleteAir-bridges have little to do with capacity but more with the comfort of passengers and the organization/efficiency of the airport (coupled with means deployed: buses, wheelchair lifts...). Terminal capacity depends on number of check-in desks, luggage systems etc. Kiev had only two air-bridges until not so long ago (8 mil.). Doha has not a single air-bridge yet it is in the 20+ millions. As for Belgrade, while one terminal has about 5 million capacity, the other one has 2.5 if i'm not mistaken giving it theoretically a combined capacity of almost 8 million pax/year, still far from the current numbers. Thanks to air-bridges the airport can operate more efficiently and with a higher level of comfort for passengers, especially in winter-time. Besides, their importance is especially pronounced when a flight can't be comfortably unloaded via the stairs-bus system, which is, let's say, flights of ~150 people or more, requiring several buses. Bottom line - Zagreb can perfectly do without air-bridges but it'll be better with them.
DeleteLove the ancient photo! It even has SkyEurope in it.
ReplyDeleteI was waiting for someone to spot that ;)
DeleteHa... :-)
DeleteDid not even notice that!
Congratulations! Good (and old) one! :-)
Teško je ne primetiti, ipak smo imali dosta uticaja na njihov bankrot. ;-)
Delete?????? tko to mi?
DeleteSudeci po njegovom nick-u pretpostavljam da je mislio na Wizz Air...mada se ne bih slozio sa njime.
DeleteAnd SU with their Tu-154M :) what a lovely aircraft it was to spot
DeleteLUFTHANSA LOBIRA KOD BARAKA OBAME
ReplyDeleteCarsten Spohr, novi CEO Lufthanse, imat će u Washingtonu sastanak sa Barakom Obamom gdje će tražiti zajedničku akciju protiv MEB3 koje kao državne kompanije subvencionirane od svojih vlada ozbiljno štete privatnim prijevoznicima u Europi, ali i Americi. Spohr smatra da su ove kompanije globalni problem i da traže jedinstveni i globalni odgovor.
Purger sa njim ide i Gospodin Klaus Froese (CEO Tyrolean) tako mi je reko komsija koji radi kao Menedzer u OS.
Deletehttp://www.tt.com/wirtschaft/unternehmen/8410469-91/aua-bietet-millionen-dealtyrolean-steht-vor-dem-aus.csp
OS nudi milione da svi Piloti i ostali radnici predju iz Tyroleana u OS da bi mogli da zatvore Tyrolean u Innsbrucku.To je Plan od LH da nebi morali da idu na Sud u Luxenburg posto ih je tuzio Sindikat u Becu zbog radnog vremena od 1000 sati a zakonom EU je odobren 900 sati.
AUA sad nudi Kapetanima platu od 305.000 Eura da predju u OS.
A Letecem Personalu 15.000 Eura da predju u OS.
Nazalost ovaj tekst je na Nemackom.
No need for trade war with ME3, they just need to find em source of cheap oil, cheap as the ME3 pay and the problem is solved. Its a great shame for Lufthansa that they try to fix their busines obstacles with politics. That is so CCCP...
DeleteLH CEO told Obama that government owned airlines are a "game changer". Instead of asking US to "shut down" ME3, I have a better advice for this junior CEO: revert LH from public company back to government owned company (as it used to be), that should turn LH into a "game changer" too!
DeleteGermany chooses to put an artificial restriction on their own airlines, and now they insist that others conform to the same rules they place on themselves.
DeleteIn my opinion, countries should do all they can to support airlines. Motorway construction gets subsidized, Railways get subsidized, and why shouldn't Airlines get some help too? Airlines contribute hugely to the economy of a country by making the country more accessible to tourists and business people.
I think countries would rather help development of energy-efficient aircraft. Theres a widely known theoretical model of hydrogen powered jets, for which hydrogen is supplied by electrolysis with electricity from nuclear power plants. That would make flight expenses greatly shrink. Russians were first to fully develop a hydrogen power plane Tupolev TU-155 back in 1988 but the project is abandoned due to lack of funds. Now the EU is trying the same with Airbus but funds are still a bottleneck.
DeleteAir China mi je ovo poslala u vezi letova za Beograd:
ReplyDeleteHello Marko, thank you for your suggestion. We'll let you know if we open this new airline.
US Airways mi je ovo poslalao u vezi letova za Beograd:
We're always looking at our routes, Marko! Also, as a member of the oneworld alliance if we can't get you to a destination, there's a good chance one of our partner's can!
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ReplyDeleteInteresting that admin deleted my earlier post - which says everything about the credibility of this website and the mis-information that it propagates on everything re Air Serbia.
2 days ago, it posted "impressive" passenger stats that Air Serbia has supposedly achieved. Yet, nowhere anywhere, can this information be independently verified by anyone. The company itself doesn't release these stats, nor does the airport - which are the only possible sources of what is actually fact from fiction - which begs the question.... why ?
Why wouldn't anyone want to release such "impressive" figures, if they are in fact true and factual ?? It doesn't make any sense at all.
So, the only conclusion that one can get to, is the fact that the reporting of these numbers serves some other ulterior motive.
And what might that be ??
Well, I'm sure that every reasonable minded person can draw their own conclusions on this....
I don't know what you posted, but all information is publicly available in the quarterly report of Belgrade Airport. If you care to read it (it's quite long), you can download it on: http://www.beg.aero/upload/2014-Kvartalni_izvestaj_za_I_kvartal.pdf
DeleteUnfortunately, it's available in Serbian only.
AnonymousMay 21, 2014 at 9:03 PM,
DeleteI usually try to keep my self on a higher level than anonymous trolls like yourself, but I simply can't help myself this time. So here it goes:
You are a massive idiot. Do you also think that Ex-Yu admin bribed airport managers to lie about 46% growth in April so that Ex-Yu can have something to write about?
You absolutely stun me. Up until now, trolls like you have been posting such nonsense predicting swift failure of Air Serbia. Now that such problems are being solved (Load factor is increasing), you claim that it is all a conspiracy! You are absolutely crazy.
Stop pretending like you are some voice of reason. Simply accept that Air Serbia is here, and things are changing in the world of South-East Europe aviation.
Results are obtained exclusively. All the results and data are correct, as you can see in the posted report above as the numbers correlate exactly to the ones posted here. Why the airline doesn’t make them public on a monthly basis is a question you should direct to them, not me. However, you should be happy to have exclusive data here which is well backed up by this report and other comments made by the CEO, PM etc. After consulting the said report, please check the results published here in January, February and March:
DeleteJAN:http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/2014/02/air-serbia-and-adria-start-strong-in.html
FEB:http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/2014/03/air-serbia-maintains-massive-growth.html
MAR:http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/2014/04/air-serbia-maintains-growth-momentum.html
Whether you like the growth or not is your problem. Your original comment was deleted due to racial slurs which you obviously knew about since you were able to write a relatively normal comment, free of swear words and racist remarks afterwards. Also if ever you need clarification on certain data you are more than welcome to contact me by clicking the "contact" button and perhaps I can give you more insight or "proof" as you will. But accusations without any proof and full of bigotry are not acceptable.
Interesting exchange of opinions.... I'm not buying into views around whether these numbers are true or not. However, if the airline doesn't make them public, I don't understand how you can possibly obtain them "exclusively" - month on month. the only other way that i can see you doing so, is to be obtaining them illegally, which is a whole different ball game ... I not sure if I would want to be in your shoes if this is the case ...
DeleteI obtain them from my own sources, which I do not have to reveal to anyone. Since you are not buying into views around whether the numbers are true or not, I suggest you too check Belgrade Airport's quarterly results which quite nicely illustrate to you the numbers. If I didn't have the numbers I wouldn't publish them. Simple as that. And you don’t have to worry being in my shoes ;)
DeleteI think you misunderstand me ... Your website is great and ofcourse, like every good journalist, your sources are your sources - no arguments there. However, there are laws and I wouldn't want to see you come into harms way by publishing data sourced illegally - that's all. Everyone can see the data published by the airport. However, they don't show pax numbers by airline by month, nor does Air Serbia, so that's where I'm coming from.
DeleteThe data clearly shows numbers by airline (top 5) for the first quarter. If you add up the numbers for Air Serbia from the January, February, March articles (and these were published well in advance of the quarterly report in May) then you will see the numbers correlate exactly. I certainly didn’t have a magic ball to predict these numbers months ahead of the report being published and neither do I have the time or imagination to make up numbers, otherwise I would do it for each airline. There is also the freedom to public information act in Serbia (and several countries in the former Yugoslavia), which allows you access to information, especially from government owned companies, which Air Serbia is. If you will notice, there are no financial performance reports or any other data published that can in any shape or form harm the company. Neither do I publish load factors for routes (like some people commenting here do, but they do so at their own free will). Financial results are only published when the airline gives the green light. And despite what some may think, this blog/site does get quite a few visits each day and I do maintain official contact with all the national carriers (and many airports) in the former Yugoslavia, with some airlines it is very frequent depending on the proficiency and will to cooperate.
Delete... also I don't remember there ever being so much commotion when Jat Airways' passenger numbers were published on a monthly basis for years.
DeleteHere's the thing ... I have been following your monthly updates and your monthly numbers do indeed tally up with the quarterly release made by the airport. However, I tried to verify those numbers with the airport every month and they said that they do NOT publish the pax numbers by airline monthly, only quarterly as they have just done. I also made several (failed) attempts to get verification from Air Serbia about their monthly pax numbers and never had one email replied to and then when I called and reached someone in the CEO's office, they said that since Etihad invested, they do not release these statistics unless james Hogan approves it. I also called the Ministry of Transport and even checked with the Office of the Ombudsman for Information and they also do not have the information ... All of the sources that one would expect should or would have this data, don't or wont release it ... Yet, you however do ... So if the information is not publicly available, save for the airport releasing their quarterly update which you published and as you say, what you published in Jan, Feb and Mar tallied up perfectly with this number - then you are accessing info through sources which are giving you information illegally ...
DeleteDude there is no law that says that the performance of Air Serbia or any other company is considered state secret. So the fact that admin is able to get this info doesn't meke it illegal.
DeleteOne of your contacts (and you do seem persistent for passenger numbers) was not telling you the truth or didn't want to tell you the truth. Either way, as I said, I will not be telling you my source, but you can rest assured the data is correct. And don't worry it's not illegal ;-)
DeleteI'm not interested to know your source, nor do I have any contacts ... If I did, I wouldn't be writing this message ! I just want to be able to get this info, if as you say, it is freely available. SM says it is not a state secret, so if it isn't, then why can't I or any other person as a normal average citizen get it ? That's what doesn't make sense. if it is public info, then it should be available to anyone and everyone that wants it ... why are you the only person who seems to be able to get access to it ? I know it seems as though I am making a big deal about this, but honestly, that's not my intention. You keep giving assurances that you are not publishing information illegally obtained, yet I can't access it, having done everything reasonably available at my disposal to get it ...
DeleteBTW SM ... You are wrong ... people who release info to admin or anyone else for that matter, not authorized to do so without the appropriate approval, are doing so illegally. Yes, there are freedom of information laws that allow any citizen to apply for and to seek access to information in the public interest. Have you ever tried to do this and if so, do you know how long it takes to process and to get approval ? Even when you get approval, the company or individual can still refuse to do so. This is an incredibly difficult and long process. How many citizens and organisations have sought to get access to the Agreement b/w Etihad and the govt ? That is the best example of your "freedom of information" laws and how poorly enforced they are. I am a big advocate of freedom of information - hence my doggedness on this issue. BUT, I am equally an advocate of privacy laws and due process. People within public companies cannot simply leak information to anyone, just because it is a public company and because they have access to it for internal purposes only. There must be accountability and as I said, due process for how information which is in the public interest, can be accessed and released. I don't see this happening here and I don't believe that admin has applied due or correct process in accessing and publishing this data. By his own admission, he has obtained it through "sources" ... This suggests anything but in going about it and doing so legally
Delete@Anon at 2:41
Delete" I can't access it, having done everything reasonably available at my disposal to get it ..."
Duh... did you try reaching out directly to airline of your choice for the info you are asking for? Last time I checked, this place is a blog, one of many on blogspot domain. Heck, you can even find Haiku poetry blogs on blogspot... so it's a blog, and a very decent one, but it's not the official blog or website of any airline! If you want official data, ask official contacts at airlines.
Looking back, this blog has been pretty accurate in my opinion, although legally nothing prevents Ex-Yu from posting personal opinion about, say, Tivat airport having 5 million passengers this year, or Air Serbia having 90% drop of passengers compared with last year. It's an airline poetry, and no one is forcing anyone to believe in what was posted.
Duh ... you need to get a better grasp of English or put your reading glasses on before posting a comment ... I said in my post that I sent numerous emails to Air Serbia which went unanswered and then I eventually called the CEO's office and the girl there said that this info is NOT published and all such info must be approved by James Hogan before it can be made public. Trust that reading it a second time will help you to better digest the meaning ... if you need it a 3rd time - no probs, just say so
DeleteOk, I’ll try once again. If you work for company ABC (private or public doesn’t matter) and you leak certain information (e.g. financials) you are generally not breaking any law unless the information you are leaking is classified as secret (by some security agency) or you are trying to gain advantage if its stock is publicly traded (i.e. insider trading) you are not doing anything illegal meaning you are not breaking any law. There might be some other cases here but this is what comes to mi mind first. What you ARE doing is probably breaking some company rule. For example, big companies make you sign some kind of employment contract so you might be breaking that. Or you might be breaking some kind of work internal ethics or public disclosure policy that all employees should abide by. Now, the fact that you are breaking these internal rules doesn’t make this unlawful (by that I mean you are not breaking any statute/law and can’t be charged in the in the criminal court and go to prison if found guilty). What can very easily happen is that your company can dismiss you or even worse charge you in civil court to recoup the damages (civil court – no prison, just monetary sanctions). Now, it’s like this in NA, might be slightly different in Serbia but it’s a general principle of British Law which is widely used almost everywhere. All I’m saying that the admin’s contact in Air Serbia might be in danger if he is releasing this info without the consent of his bosses. The fact that admin gets and publishes this info is not unlawful (as long as it’s true. if it turns out that it’s not, Air Serbia can choose to go after him in civil courts and recoup the damages).
ReplyDeleteIf you have some time and you are interested google: “PBS frontline” and find an episode called “United States of Secret”. Talks about recent wiretapping scandal in the US. What you’ll notice there that this was leaked to press long before (I think in 2003) and the leaks came from people internal to this agency. Government tried to persecute these people and they couldn’t. But what’s more important is that nobody is even mentioned journalists as doing something wrong and they were the ones who obtained info and published it.
You mentioned Freedom of Information act, it’s not a universal and it has its limitations and I know it’s hard to obtain any info that way. It’s same in Serbia and in Canada, trust me.But that has nothing to do with admin getting some inside information here from his sources. People working for some company shouldn’t be leaking info but they do, everywhere in the world for whole bunch of reasons, that’s reality. You are right, there must be accountability but that accountability is to their company not the law, court system etc.
SM, I appreciate your insightful post ... Nonetheless, by publishing company confidential information (gained by an internal source leaking the information), you are aiding and abetting a theft - both before and after the fact. It may not be a big deal here in Serbia, but in the UAE, hell, this is not pleasant. Air Serbia is 49% owned by the UAE and this is where this website and those feeding it with information gained illeagally - will fall foul of the law - UAE law - and I can tell you that industrial espionage is a BIG deal over there .... Good luck - hope you know what you are doing
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