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| Flights between Belgrade and Zagreb to resume after more than 23 years |
Air Serbia has announced the launch of a double daily service between Belgrade and Zagreb from December 12. The new flights mark the resumption of commercial traffic between these two cities following a 23-year hiatus. The Serbian carrier will operate both a morning and afternoon departure from Belgrade to the Croatian capital, primarily targeting transit passengers who will continue their journey onwards from its hub. In a statement, the airline says, “The new service will offer business travellers excellent connections through Air Serbia’s Belgrade hub at Nikola Tesla International Airport to popular destinations across the airline’s network including Athens, Abu Dhabi, Istanbul, Thessaloniki, Tel Aviv, Moscow and Larnaca, and key destinations across the Balkan region including Skopje, Tirana, Sofia, Bucharest, Tivat, Podgorica and Sarajevo”. Both flights will operate with a 66-seat ATR72 aircraft.
Air Serbia faces no direct competition on the route. The airline has been expanding aggressively throughout the region with the recent launch of flights to Tirana, as well as an upcoming frequency boost to Ljubljana and capacity increase to Podgorica starting December. Commenting on the new route launch, Air Serbia’s CEO, Dane Kondić, said, “The introduction of services to Zagreb is a significant and welcome addition to the airline’s rapidly growing network. The flights will meet the growing demand of business and leisure travellers regularly commuting between these two capitals and will save them considerable time in comparison to travel by train or car”. He added, “The new service will also provide two-way connections over Belgrade between Croatia, mainland Europe and key global destinations”. Recently, Air Serbia’s Chariman, Siniša Mali, said, “Our goal is to eventually fly twice daily to all cities in the region but before we do that we need to connect the last two cities in the former Yugoslavia that we do not fly to yet - Zagreb and Pristina”. From December the airline will already offer double daily flights to Ljubljana, Podgorica and Zagreb.
The new service marks a major milstone in the former Yugoslavia as its two largest cities will once again be served by commercial flights - the first since the dissolution of the federation. The last scheduled flight between Zagreb and Belgrade was operated by JAT Yugoslav Airlines on August 6, 1991. The route enjoys a long history with JAT’s predecessor, Aeroput, maintaining flights between the two cities since February 1928. With the introduction of this new service, Air Serbia will now have a considerable presence in Croatia. Apart from Zagreb, the airline will also operate seasonal flights to Dubrovnik, Split and Pula, all of which are set to see frequency upgrades this summer. Their resumption will be brought forward to the very start of the 2015 summer season in late March. In its last year of normal operations, Yugoslav Airlines was already recording a significant drop in passenger numbers across its domestic network. However, in 1990 JAT carried 340.000 passengers between Serbia and Croatia. Travel between the two republics accounted for 34% of all domestic air travel.
Flight details for the new Belgrade – Zagreb service can be found here.
Ex-YU, you also forgot to mention that Banja Luka will be getting an additional frequency on Saturdays starting from 04.04.2015. :)
ReplyDeleteAll in all, it's nice to see all this regional expansion. I am sure that Air Serbia will have no problem selling these seats.
What I am wondering is when does BEG plan on fixing the A6-A10 gates? They are horrible and really need fixing. I hope they finish it before March otherwise we are going to have chaos at the airport.
I think they only listed cities with double daily or more flights
DeleteAdmin, you forgot Sarajevo - 1 is operated by JU and the other is codeshare with BH Airlines. Therefore SJJ is also twice daily
DeleteCestitam. Ovo se dugo ceka. Samo da se poremni jos 3 stara atr 72-200 u malo novije modele bilo bi super! Dali zna neko sta planira air serbia sa flotom? Dali ce biti u skorije vreme vise aviona i sta se planira sa 737? Poz
ReplyDeleteАли добро, сва та три су добила потпуно опремљене кабине тако да се и не види нека разлика.
DeleteАли добро, и ја се исто надам да ће се придружити јату још која млађа птица!
Drasticna je razlika u nivou buke koju prave.
Delete@Anon9:19
DeleteAli dobro, Jat?
Jato ptica, ne Jat.
DeleteImaju 2 ATR72-500 koji su znatno tiši od ovih ATR72-200 neke naznake govore da će se sa 200 još dugo leteti jer su avioni kompletno obnovljeni kako spolja tako i iznutra. Očekuje se proširenje flote ATRova sa još dva 72-500
DeleteGreat news for both Serbia and Croatia, ZAG finally getting more and more carriers!
ReplyDeleteI predict LF of 3 to 5%.
DeleteThere are no more Serbs left in Croatia
Excellent news for the region, history books and the citizens living or around both cities but especially also Zagrebcani who hve now access to one more attractive airline network
ReplyDeletei m sure that the ATR72 will hve lots of aircraft upgrades to 319....
Indeed, if Sarajevo can then so can Zagreb. From what I heard Air Serbia has about 90 to 100 passengers on its A319 to SJJ.
DeleteI guess the first flight to be upgraded to larger planes will be the Friday evening: it comes down to Belgrade in excellent time for going out - and departs perfectly to catch it after work. So all the "yuppies" from Zagreb can have fun. :)
DeleteThis was big surprise for all of us working at JU. It was top secret. Only the managment knew about this. Great news.
ReplyDeletedo you know how long management knew?
DeleteWe knew about Tirana and other flights but this they kept secret completely. We found out in the halls when they released the information to the press.
DeleteWell, that says a lot about the management's lack of trust in its employees.
DeleteThanks for that.
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DeleteAnonymousNovember 8, 2014 at 10:12 AM
DeleteIf the management told anybody, the news would be posted here within hours, and maybe they don't want that.
That was not the case with Tirana so I don't see why it would be with Zagreb.
DeleteTirana was mentioned a few times before the official launch. The user "Air Serbia" on Skyscraper City forum said it would be am imminent destination.
DeleteYeah but that means nothing. It's as if I started going around saying: 'KIV will be launched very soon.' Just because some say it doesn't mean its true. Plus, I think Tirana was a public secret.
DeleteI remember this site knew all the new destinations Air Serbia was launching when it was being set up like Warsaw, Banja Luka etc.
DeleteBut I think it is reasonable for management not to share strategic planning with all employees.
DeleteYes, ZAGREB flights are so secret, that they can't even be booked on the ASL website! Very professional!!!
Delete"It was top secret. Only the managment knew about this"
DeleteAll you had to do is read Elevate magazine, Mr Mali announced more than a month ago ZAG and PRN as next Air Serbia destinations in the magazine. Not sure it was really a top secret.
Well well Mr. Kucko Ceo of Croatia Airlines what do you have to say about this .I remember you saying in a interview that Air Serbia was no challenge for Croatia Airlines. I really hope that somebody in the government sees that you are incompetent to run an airline. And that if they don't get new management, there won't be much over of Croatia Airlines in the future. My calculations would be fire +/- 20 of his friends including him and you still MAYBE can safe Croatia Airlines. His friends know how they are also the employee's know .
ReplyDeleteDo you think CA was offered code share on a these flights?
DeleteWhat I understand is nobody wants to do business with Croatia Airlines as long they keep the present Ceo Mr.Kucko.Air Serbia is puur business nothing to do with political friends
DeleteTrue dat. Maybe it is a Star Alliance thing too. Remember when LH dropped Jat from code share about 2-3 years ago?How times have changed.
DeleteThe Lufthansa-Jat Airways deal fell through because Jat management wanted to rip Lufthansa off. They insisted on raising the fares in the agreement and after several months of failed negotiations Lufty was sick of them so they cancelled the whole thing.
DeleteWell now Lufthansa rips of Croatia Airlines and Ceo of Croatia Airlines is happy with it
DeleteWell, Croatia Airlines' time is running out. Another thing more dangerous than Air Serbia is Air Croatia. Though their chances of survival are slim, if they take off they will give OU a rather big financial blow as they will trash the yields and take away some passengers. Let's hope for the best... but things are not looking up for OU.
Delete@Anonymous 10:35
DeleteJust from what you have it sounds like Jat wanted to renegotiate the terms of the code share agreement. How is that trying to rip LH off?
Anyway, AS is in a much stronger position today and would for sure not settle for the terms of that deal today.
It really makes me wonder how much longer OU can remain inactive before first serious symptoms start to appear.
DeleteYou are just forgetting one thing. JU-LH agreement was a fair one and both parties were actually making money. The previous, incompetent management wanted to maximize their income/profits by considerably increasing the JU sector prices and by pushing for LH to reduce their own fares. They were morons and the loss of the interline/code-share actually cost JU a lot back then. LH was not at fault there, it was all because of the politically appointed morons.
DeleteWith all the political appointees back then your assessment sounds reasonable.
DeleteI was just going through Flight Radar 24 and I noticed that OU's flight to Copenhagen is operated with the Q400 and that it lasts 02 hours and 40 minutes!! Why don't they upgrade the route to an A319. There surely gotta be enough passengers between the two Star Alliance hubs. Air Serbia sends its A319 there and the flight is one hour and fifty minutes. From Zagreb it would not be more than one and a half hours for sure.
Delete@AnonymousNovember 8, 2014 at 10:02 AM
DeleteIn all honesty i don't see how there'll be much business for JAT/AS in Zagreb, its good they've come, and its good they've got double daily, I just don't see them getting any transfers from Zagreb, mostly Croatian Serbs who might wish to visit their relatives in Serbia or Belgrade.
Zagreb is already well connected with Istanbul, Athens, Middle East, even better soon now that Aegean and Fly Dubai are coming to Zagreb. Most Croats fly to western destinations, EU wide, they have relative good choice of Airlines and decent prices too, only pity is that EasyJet has left Zagreb for now, they'll return I am sure of it, Zagreb is growing as an important travel destination and is very likely to become very popular as a city brake destination with in the EU, like Vienna, Munich or Prague are, given enough time. Zagreb is most visited capitol city in ex-YU, with biggest number of overnight stays and visitors, now passing one million mark in visitors numbers and 1.7 million overnights.
As to OU and Kucko, he'll be out soon enough, we had enough of him and his thievery, I am sure USKOK is looking at his operations, all state firms in Croatia are being looked at closely as a result of strict rules placed by the EU, and new laws being implemented. Only the other day USKOK made criminal charges against 220 workers at Zagreb Town Hall, all of them who gained their employment status through illegitimate ways, and couldn't provide evidence for their education. This isn't a lot considering Town Hall employs 8000 staff, but UKOK just started to look, they've estimated that at least 20% of all staff working for city of Zagreb's 8000 strong workforce are illegals or without proper qualifications. it is estimated that some 60 000 employees in Croatian government gained their jobs through illegitimate means and ways,i can tell you this, all of them will face prosecution once each government agency and ministry comes under scrutiny.
I don't get it, are you saying that Air Serbia will fail in Zagreb? lol
DeleteI think you are in a state of psychosis if you state that Zagreb is well connected with Athens. For the love of God, ZAG lacks a non stop flight to Rome!! The airport has pathetic links with the Middle East and the Balkan countries. I for one am happy about Air Serbia and I sure they will do just fine.
Read what Petar and Purger wrote. You might learn a thing or two. By the way, it's capital, not capitol.
AS see ZAG passengers for Bucharest, Tirana, Skopje, Tessalloniki, Athens, even Istanbul, Abu Dhabi. AS already offer ZAG-BEG-SVO for 150E only as a promo! BEG-SVO is 149E which means during promo you fly ZAG-BEG for only 1E! I don't think so that AS will fail in ZAG at all! AS wise decision!
DeleteAnonymous 1:25 PM, I'm a Croat and can tell you that every new carrier in Zagreb is a great news for all of the passengers! OU had its chance and missed it, no more OU rip off!
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DeleteCroatia Airlines Fail
DeleteWell, now you can see that the CEO Kucko isn't capable for this job!! Again a failure. Hoe many times we said it overhere that this man is ruining Croatia Airlines. Over and over again. Then the tumor he would leave in september.....but it is already november and we don't hear Purger anymore. It's over and out for OU.....he is such a disaster for the company. On the workingfloor I never heard a positive word about this failure!!! Why can't we kick him out? Only because of political reasons? Common there is also a Union......and we could strike.....
DeleteSorry for my typing errors. Should read hoe is how and tumor is rumor
DeleteI think it's not only Air Serbia that will harm them but other carriers as well. There is KLM which destroyed their monopoly in Amsterdam. Then Air France considerably raised their frequency which will impact negatively OU. Then we have Air Serbia and Lot which will take passengers from OU who used to travel via Vienna/Munich/Frankfurt.
Delete@AnonymousNovember 9, 2014 at 8:41 AM
Delete"@Then we have Air Serbia and Lot which will take passengers from OU who used to travel via Vienna/Munich/Frankfurt.@"
not sure how to respond to this other than cite someone from SSC forum who put it exactly how most Croats feel about flying with AS.
@ Vidim da nekima nisu baš najjasnije neke stvari pa da vam dovedem u perspektivu:
To je kao da ti osoba X upadne u kuću dok si na poslu, pokrade zlatninu, našamara ženu i djecu, zapali kuću, ubije pesa i rastepe smeće iz kante pa te nakon koju godinu susjed uvjerava da si debil jer se ne želiš voziti novom super povoljnom taxi komapanijom kojoj je dotična osoba X vlasnik.
Ili da ti netko naleti i ponudi da se voziš besplatno sa Čačićem kao šoferom po Europi, bilo makadamom, bilo autocestom
Zaključak: da je i besplatno velik broj ljudi ne bi letjel. Valjda ljudi smiju odlučivati kako raspolagati sa vlastitim novcem tako da molim da se više sjaši s ove teme. Hvala @
Svetoslav Suronja http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=119060254&postcount=5059
OU is in no danger of AS taking its share on any route, even if tickets were free, most Croats wouldn't fly with AS for the above reasons, Zagreb is served by many airliners, offering great deals on many routes, why would anyone fly with what is the worst airline in the region, to Western Europe is beyond me, even to mid East there's a plethora of airlines offering good flights.
AS's only traffic will be few business travelers and Croatian Serbs that have homes in Croatia and Serbia or relatives visiting Croatia from Belgrade. Belgrade as a tourist destination is as attractive option to Croats as Sofia and Bucharest are, there are about 2000 Croats going to these two cities for a city brake each year. if AS has more than 45000 pax on Zagreb - Belgrade route per year I'd be highly surprised.
So, any prediction on Pristina flights?
ReplyDeletecongratulation to Serbian national carrier. excellent move to this uncovered corridor to Capital City of our neighbouring state, new member to UE...
ReplyDeletePrelepo je pratiti nastojanje, napor Er Srbije premrezavanja jugo-istocne Evrope. Osto je zasada jos jedan grad na Kosovu i Metohiji. Svakako u vremenu pred nama i Pristina ce biti destinacija u mrezi otvorenog neba. Bez otvorenog neba nema ni kretanja ni otvorene slobode ljudi, roba i usluga. Manje hleba radosti kod ljudi na zemlji. Bilo gde. Ako je nebo zatvoreno, sloboda nas ljudi sa biznisom je atrofiran. Vise nego radost da ovaj deo Evrope otvara puteve prirodnog bitisanja. Ne jezikom nego zivom comunikacijom.
Za istinu se nadam da ce AIR SERBIA Iznajmljivati jos aviona razlicitih velicina prem potrebama trzista. Radovati ljude profesionalno ih opsluzujuci, sa stalnim poboljanjem servisa i odnosa . Sa neogranicenom radoscu prateci komercijalno vazduhoplovstvo po svetu, uz moju na Pacifiku , posebna radot je prema Er Srbiji, njenom razvoju, transformaciji. Sa nadom u BOGA da se rapidno prosiri citav aerodrom ANT BEOGRAD, dolazimo do realne stvarnosti. A to je sto se mene tice:
"NAMA DOBRO A NIKOME ZLO"!
Buducnost je pred nama, a moja nastojanja su sa vama.
Vas Rod. Marinkovic, AME. Kraljevo /// Sydney.
Za početak mislim da Bog ima važnije stvari nego da brine o ANT Beograd. (Do not use the Lords name in vain)
ReplyDeleteI na kraju, nama i svima dobro.
You cannot say what is or is not the priority of God.
DeleteNo one can. But i think i am a safe to assume that it is not ANT. There are probably a few things in this world more important than ANT.
DeleteYes, ASL being one of them!
Deletehahhaaha ... good one!
DeletePostovani anonym.10:42,
DeleteZa kraj ,vase misli ste izrekli sta mislite, a sto se tice kako kazete "Bog ima vaznije stvari nego..., to je posledica vasih misli a ne promisljanja. Kada covek nesto pogresi onda uobicajeno kaze, "Izvini(te) tako sam misljio". Ako je covek istinski promislio, onda se izvinjenje ne uklapa u promisao. Nemoze se manipulisati. Razvoju Beogradskog (I svega drugog sto ljudi stvaraju) prirodno je se radovati, dobre misli, reci, svaki drugi dobar nacin ako je ikako moguce primenjivati i pomagati..Pa ko zeli neka se GOSPODU BOGU moli i nada za dobro drugih.
Sa postovanjem. Vama svako dobro, a mene kako BOD da, bicu radostan.
Rodney & associated in good will.
Kraljevo /// Sydney.
Saw this on infokop.net dated 15 Oct. Sorry if already discussed. "Turoperatori iz Rusije „Geometrija“, „R-Turs“, „Apelsin“ i „ 7-tur“, zakupili su čarter liniju Moskva-Niš-Moskva na kojoj će avion leteti jednom nedeljno, saopštio je direktor Turističke organizacije Niša Uroš Parlić. "
ReplyDeleteYes, they will be operated by Yamal's A320.
DeleteFrom what I've seen, Air Serbia is ready to add more A320s. There are some destinations out there that are chronically going out full, especially in the afternoon wave of departures. Also, it would help them reduce CASM.
ReplyDeleteAir Serbia should order at least 20 more planes to come before 2020! With this fleet they can't do much anymore.
DeleteLove the video :)
ReplyDeleteWhen when when will the new birds arrive? How many? Type? Size?
DeleteI love the video too, really great...
DeleteCongrats to ZAG and Air Serbia. Pozdrav iz Zagreba!
ReplyDeleteHow might this affect Aeroflot's flights to Zagreb? Are the flights still daily? What equipment do they send?
ReplyDeleteAir Serbia needs more planes! They can't do so much with this fleet! They can only launch flights to PRN and than they won't have enough birds to launch flights to Madrid, Barcelona, Cairo, St. Petersburg, Kiev, Oslo, Riga, Munich, New York, Chicago, Toronto, Beijing, Shangai, and maybe Tehran. I think they will surprise us with suddenly ordering maybe 10 B738max and A330s from Etihad in January or February?
ReplyDeleteThey won't switch their NB fleet to A/B mix, I even think they have legal obligations to keep it pure A because of the terrible 1998 Yugoslavia/Airbus deal. Anyway, going purely with A32X NEO will increase efficiencies anyway, and 737 MAX doesn't add much compared with it. A330 is a sure thing for WB, the only question is whether they'll commit to buying new airplanes with a target 2018+ delivery date and if they do, IMO, it's probably going to be A330 NEO. A350 XWB is a bit too much for them at the present moment. Either way, ASL's future is bright.
DeleteI have to say that I am not that sad that the B737-300 are still flying around. I do like those birds and they bring memories of what Serbian aviation had to go through. I feel sorry for all those hard working people in the airline who never had a chance to show their worth due to politics and nepotism. Of course, I am happy that we have Air Serbia today but at the same time Jat Airways always brings some nostalgic feelings to the surface. :)
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice for them to get the Air Serbia livery. They have done such a tremendous job at the airline!
Good comment, but you probably have nostalgic feelings for JAT, not Jat Airways, correct?
DeleteWell, I am a member of the Serbian diaspora so I kind of miss both of them. We left Yugoslavia in late 1980s and then we kept of flying on both JAT and Jat to visit home. Even though Jat was slowly falling apart its crew were great given the circumstances. I am always saddened when I think of them. That's why I have a big attachment to them and I would love them to feature the new livery, I think they have earned it! :)
DeleteThere life has been extended by Aviolet. But they have max 1-2 years left of service, let these seniors enjoy the last few years of part time work as they mainly fly to sunshine destinations. ;-)
DeleteLOL, next stop: Bora Bora!
DeleteI was actually expecting Aviolet to be more aggressive and go after other charter operators, esp from Turkey. I know they were given 733's to use and are limited that way.
Still there's some money left on the table in the charter business.
Hmm would be nice, it's unfortunate that due to a fleet shortage they had to be used throughout the summer. I hope that next summer they will be exclusively used for charters! :)
DeleteSo Pristina is the last (major) city not served by AS, this will probably come in 2015. AS will then have a great network in the Balkans. I'm wondering how AS can use this advantage to be the dominant cargo carrier in the region. Maybe exclusively distribute for DHL, UPS and other courier companies to the region, since almost every major airport will be covered.
ReplyDelete-- Charlie
Well, DHL and UPS already use Solinair's flight to Belgrade. I think this will be a difficult task for Air Serbia as long as they use their Atr-72.
DeleteGood point. The ATRs have practically zero cargo capacity when loaded with luggage. I guess they would only be able to carry a few envelopes. ;-)
Delete-- Charlie
Haha yes. From my experience an Atr can take up to 500 kilos of cargo/mail when full... and that's already pushing it. Then again, certain destinations such as Bucharest, Istanbul, Athens , Thessaloniki... do have the jet so it could work for them.
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ReplyDeleteToday's QR flight from Zagreb did not have more than 50 passengers! I really hope that loads are usually better than that!
Great move AirSerbia!
ReplyDeleteIt's time for Ohrid now.....
I am wondering if Ohrid could also work during the winter season. Maybe they could run it at a reduced frequency, two or three times per week.
DeleteWhat is the catchment area of Ohrid?Since in the winter there would be few tourists visiting I would imagine.
DeleteI also mean population of this catchment area.
DeleteI guess Ohrid could also be attractive for people who live in the south of the country. Maybe even some people from Albania?
DeleteThere are soo many macedonians from the ohrid-region (ohrid, struga, resen, bitola etc...) from australia and america that will use this line since skopje is far away, also many swedish, polacks and germans will use it as tourists (and diaspora)
DeleteAlbania is near too so many albanians will fly this route too...but it's all up to airserbia, maybe there isn't that big demand
I think it has more to do with fleet shortage rather than with a lack of demand. By the way, how are the road links between western Macedonia and eastern Albania?
DeleteLet's also not forget that Ohrid did offer subsidies to Air Serbia.
Does anyone know when YU-API is returning from Abu Dhabi? It's been like what, two weeks now?
ReplyDeleteIn 2004, Belgrade airport handled 2.045.000 passengers (+11%).
ReplyDeleteIn 2010, which was the first visa free year, the airport handled 2.698.000. In 2014 the airport will handle around 4.600.000! Nice growth over the years.
Bad news. During the 2015 summer season, Croatia Airlines will further reduce its Pristina flights when they will offer just two weekly flights, down from current three!
ReplyDeleteBy the way, have I missed something but Alitalia has loaded daily flights to Zagreb! When are these supposed to start?
ReplyDeleteOr is it a codeshare?
DeleteOU managment have a very important goal: they want to become ONLY a star alliance feeder. Full stop.
ReplyDeleteCould we finally see Prague get a jet aircraft?
ReplyDeleteBelgrade - Pristina March 9, 2015
ReplyDeletelol... where did you get that from?
DeleteDaily with the Atr?
DeleteCan't say but it will be announced soon....also news about 4 additional A319
ReplyDeleteDante, God bless you if what you are saying is true!
DeleteOuch... During rush hour Air Serbia will use like 12 to 13 air-bridges.
DeleteIf i were an Air Serbia crew i would feel uncomfortable flying into Pristina.
ReplyDeleteIt might get an all male crew. ..
DeleteI do not see any reason for worry. The flight crew is not going into the city, and I am sure they will have Albanian speaking crew on board. After a few weeks/months people in Kosovo will hear that it is no big deal to fly AS as long as the price is right.
DeleteAlbanian speaking crew? :)) there is no such thing in JU. if there was they would also be flying to TIA, and trust me no one speaks a word of Albanianfrom our crew members!
DeleteI am not worried about most people but of few hot heads who might cause the problem and create bad publicity.
DeleteYou don't think that AS could advertise for new flight crew with fluency in Albanian as a prerequisite? I think they can easily find a few people who speak Serbian, English, & Albanian in Belgrad. And it would be a big plus and very professional of AS on their flights to TIR & later PRN. I'm not saying that on each flight they should have someone who speaks the language of the destination city, but in this case it would be helpful, at least for a while.
DeleteThey could đefinitely, but i dont think they will do it having in mind they havent done it for TIA nor any other destination. When i flew on EY they had serbian speaking crew and even menu in serbian, but thats EY. i dont see it happening on JU flights.
Deletewhat market is bigger or better said more lucrative for JU; PRN or TIA?
Why they need to be from Belgrade? Im sure they could find few young Albanologists for the cabin crew. Also they could employ some Kosovo Albaninans or Goranis who can speak all 3 languages
DeleteWhy not get three or four Kosovo Albanian crew who used to work for Belle Air? They could work on the Tirana / Pristina flights plus another afternoon flight.
DeleteWhy is TIA or PRN so important that its should get Albanian speaking crew?
DeleteWhy doesnt SVO, TLV, BEY or any other destination in the network get that before Tirana or Pristina?
Its not economical to relocate people, give them apartments, so on and so on... Not even to mention how they would be crucified in media for employing Kosovo Albanians instead of Serbians...
If no one speaks Russian on SVO or Hebrew on TLV why should anyone speak Albanian on flight that a lot of people (rightfully or not) consider to be domestic flight?
LH does not care about your nationality... Sprechen Sie Deutsch oder Englisch? Nein, tut mir leid :)
That's why Lufty puts a safety video in the language of the country they are flying to. I remember that a few times when i flew with them they had a Serbian stewardess.
DeleteSwiss also does an audio safety demo in Serbian on their flights to Belgrade as well.
DeleteNothing's wrong with that, maybe they can offer similar in Albanian...
Also remember when I flew Malev in 2010 to AMM and BEY, they also had an audio safety demo in Arabic...
2015 will be amazing for AS.... Brace yourself... Not sure about dates but they plan to start Cairo daily service March 9 th as well ( day may change). also new routes next year will be Barcelona and Amman. Cheers
ReplyDeleteI wonder what schedules BCN and AMM might receive... AMM could maybe get the same as TLV but BCN will be interesting as I doubt it can make it in time like CDG, BRU and others.
Delete^ It is obvious that Dante is a troll. We all know that 2 ATR will come before any other airbus jets. Second, this destinations are a possibility, but they are not confirmed ( they are his own "wishlist").
DeleteI bet you are an annoyed JU employee who is pissed off that Dante revealed something that was supposed to be done by the great Dane.
DeleteWhy on earth would they fly to Amman. It's full of mainline European carriers, and what's more, ties between Jordan and Serbia are underdeveloped. They should instead have Tehran on their horizons. Exremely lucrative if we take into account the potential for all the Iranians transferring to France, Germany, Scandinavia
DeleteThe same reason they fly to Beirut or Warsaw, to get transfer passengers. Plus, Tehran is also full of mainline carriers and there are more chances of them competing with Etihad.
DeleteLet me check... Cairo was announced back in 2013 then pulled back, so no brainer really.
DeleteBCN is already served by Vueling in the high season, and Aviolet covers nearby charter destinations. On the other hand, MAD has zero competition, and is the go to hub for LATAM connections.
AMM already has impressive connectivity and competition to Europe and is expanding routes to North America, unlike Tehran.
I'll have to look closer into numbers but from the top of my head it looks like Dante is yanking our chain here...
Even if he is one can interpret it as his own opinion. No biggie.
DeleteAnonymous 8:29. There is a difference between Beirut and Amman. MEA's network is not as large as Royal Jordanian's, thus there is space for ASL to squeeze in.
DeleteMEA is actually far more competitive and healthy than RJ which is on the verge of bankruptcy. They have also reduced a lot of their destinations. So if we were to follow your logic they should withdraw from Istanbul and not consider Cairo?
DeleteThe bulk of IST pax are O/D, not transfer.....
DeleteThat's actually not true, even when we consider TK. Actually 45% of their passengers are transferring in Istanbul.
DeleteYea, but not Air Serbia's. That's the point
DeleteAir Serbia is not far behind, a bit far Pegasus in terms of pax numbers.
Delete..... Sure Amman is in my wish list.... However, I will not comment anymore about this " troll " statement. Soon enough we will be able to say who is troll here. There are few more things coming in 2015 but I will restrain from sharing them here.... Let's wait for confirmation of what I have already said first.
ReplyDeleteI would think that top priorities/destinations would be PRN, MUC, LED.
DeleteThanks for info Dante. AMM, CAI, PRN are logical progression of development... my guess is that nit even EY expected this and that is the reason for this rapid development in last month or so... winter season started rather well, only lack of evening departures are reducing our LF.
DeleteIf you have the power to make a proposition to senior management, if I were you, I'd go with IKA and KIV.
Hey Dante u r not in Canada, are you? You know what we say, tko leti vrijedi! Thx!
DeleteYes I am in Canada now
DeleteDante could be right because Air Serbia is starting to train 40 dispatchers from 01.01.2014.
DeleteBTW, has Dane Kordić given any major interviews over the last few months? I don't recall seeing any, which is odd since he represents one of the few Serbian company's in expansion mode?
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KUWAIT CITY would be a nice addition to their network !
ReplyDeleteHahahaha love your nick.
DeleteASL obviously wants to destroy OU...But honestly they are very cheap now! Ticket to Moscow via Belgrade is 150e!
ReplyDeleteAko govoris o Moskvi, Croatia ionako ne leti tamo tako da ih to nece pogoditi. Zato leti Aeroflot i Putinu nece biti drago zbog toga niti malo
DeleteПутину неће ни мало сметати јер Аерофлот лети два пута на дан за Београд. Ако Аерофлот изгуби велики број путника из Загреб увек могу да укину линију и да шаљу путнике преко Београда као што то раде у Сарајеву и Тирани. :)
DeleteWord is Krasnodar will begin Jan 30th.
ReplyDeleteLol.. No it is not. It's only a codeshare with Aeroflot that is being considered.
DeleteI have a strange feeling fights to Priština will be opened rather soon with flight numbers in JU20x range.
ReplyDeleteTIA is 210, PUY 220, ZAG 230...
Could be, 100s seem to be used up by now.
DeleteASL dobija novih 7 MAN kamiona za catering. :)
ReplyDeleteJel zna neko koje gume koriste avioni ASL Michelin ili Bridgestone :)
Hvala unapred
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Michelin.
DeleteVenice, and Munich airports are interesting for connections with ME. LED only with better flights connections with western Meditteranaen sea.
ReplyDeleteLove how the experts on here refer to Air Serbia, JU as AS Alaskan and Croatian, OU as CA Air China. Well done
ReplyDeletePa to su ti intelektualci koji smeju sve da pisu o ASL te gluposti a ja kad istinu napisem nazivaju me moronom a oni sami ne znaju IATA kodove :))
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Get over it man. You know the context in which it is used on this blog.
DeletePa ovo je blog o aviaciji trebali bi nauciti IATA kodove ili pogledajte negde ako ne znate ispada ko da pricate o nekim desetim kompanijama :)
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98% ljudi ovde ih ne zna jer nisu svi zaposleni u vazduhoplovstvu vec ga samo vole i prate, zato te je narod zmolio da se ne glupiras tako da hvala syo ih vise ne koristis.
DeleteI can't wait to see what JU's fleet will look like in a couple of years. Obviously there is the order for the A320 NEO's but at the rate they are growing and expanding I don't know if it will be enough. I think they've surprised even themselves with the progress they've made so far! Regardless, I was so happy to see this news. Very important for the region, not just from an aviation perspective, but also from a social, political, and economic one. I think its a step in the right direction for greater cooperation between Serbia and Croatia, as well as JU and OU.
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@ NS|SAN
DeleteRegarding Serbia and Croatia's cooperation prospects - yes, but when it comes to JU and OU's cooperation - hardly...
ASL flota bi trebala ovako da izgleda ako hoce jako da napreduju :)
Delete10 - 12 ATR 72-600
20-30 A 320 NEO sa PW 1100 JM engines
10-15 A 321NEO sa PW 1100G JM engines
4-6 A 350-900 XWB
2-3 A 350-1000XWB :)
Ne mora svako da se slozi sa ovim i da me zbog toga naziva moronom ili drugim uvredama mozda sam sad malo pretero ali ja mislim da bi bio predobro da flota ASL izgleda tako od 2020- 2026�� =D
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Deletemisliš flota AS
DeleteHahahaha...
Deletene misli AS misli ASL (kao sto je BEG a ne ANT)
Deletevolio bih i ja to INN ali si malo preterao:) malo vise
Moron? Hmm.. Slazem se.
DeleteCroatia can already close any line it has to the East...
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ReplyDeleteWe keep mentioning Madrid as one of the desired destinations. I was wondering what kind of schedule would a flight to Madrid need to have. It is a 3 hour flight meaning the plane would have to be away from Belgrade for approx. 7 hours (like TLV or LHR). That makes it tricky to shedule and squeeze it in the morning wave or evening wave of departures and have it back in Belgrade in time for convenient connections with the midday departures from Belgrade... Sofia and Bucharest in particular. The only other option would be to send the plane to Madrid during night, at some ungodly hour. Not sure if that would work... Perhaps that is why Madrid is not in the cards yet.
ReplyDeleteWhat are the targeted connections for Tel Aviv passengers? There must be a reason why TLV has schedule completely different from Larnaca and Beirut, and from the planned Cairo.
I would like to propose something... maybe in addition to the new routes launched, ex-YU, you could also maybe add new frequencies? I think it would be interesting like Air Serbia doubling its Ljubljana flights or Air France their Zagreb ones.
ReplyDeleteI think it's as interesting as new routes being launched. :)
JU will fly double daily to LJU from December 2014.
ReplyDeleteOld news buddy.
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