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| BWA delays first flight and adds two new destinations |
Bosnian Wand Airlines, which held its launch party last Thursday and was to introduce flights a day later, has now delayed its inaugural service from Sarajevo until January 22. Furthermore, the airline has completely revised its schedule, suspended planned flights to Gothenburg and will introduce new services to Frankfurt and Malmo. Last Friday, BWA said it cancelled its initial flights from Bosnia and Herzegovina’s capital due to additional training being undertaken by its 28-strong cabin crew team. However, the airline’s PR Manager, Elma Zećo, now says flights have been moved by another week as the carrier is responding to the demands of its customers. “We are adjusting our timetable to the needs of our clients. In this case, for pilgrims travelling with BWA to Saudi Arabia”, Ms. Zećo says. In addition to its Sarajevo base, BWA operates a range of flights from Sweden to Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Greece.
According to its current schedule, BWA has terminated planned services to Gothenburg. Flight from Sarajevo to Stockholm, which were to operate via Sweden’s second largest city, will now run nonstop. The airline will also introduce flights to Frankfurt and Malmo, which are to be inaugurated on January 22 and 25 respectively. Previously scheduled services to Amsterdam and Athens will be maintained. All flights will now operate twice per week, with exception to its Stockholm and Malmo service, which will run only once per week. An A321 will operate the flights. “We are currently updating our schedule and tickets can be purchased through our booking engine”, Ms. Zećo says. As of this morning, tickets for flights to Malmo and Frankfurt are still unavailable for purchase via the airline’s website.
Last Thursday, BWA said, “At the moment we will be operating with a single aircraft and only from Sarajevo when Bosnia and Herzegovina is concerned. One of our goals in the coming period is to develop our operations and grow our network in Europe”. The carrier’s A321 jet has been leased from Air Méditerranée and has the capacity to seat 214 passengers. BWA will operate flights under Hermes Airlines’ IATA designator code "H3". Hermes is a subsidiary of Air Méditerranée and is based in Athens. BWA has said it is working towards receiving a Bosnian registration and certification.
A revised timetable for each route can be found below by clicking on the appropriate links.
| Route | Launch date |
|---|---|
| Sarajevo - Athens | 22.01.2015 |
| Sarajevo - Frankfurt | 22.01.2015 |
| Sarajevo - Stockholm | 22.01.2015 |
| Sarajevo - Amsterdam | 23.01.2015 |
| Sarajevo - Malmo | 25.01.2015 |
Pa danasnji let iz Atine nije otkazan!
ReplyDeletePolako... Otkazace ga
DeleteTaman ta dva putnika neka prebace na JA pa na JU za ATH :v
DeleteAccording to their website they start flights next Thursday like it says here...
Deletehttp://bwairlines.com/bih/red-letenja/
Jos uvjek mi nije jasno sta znaci "Wand"... je li mi to neko moze objasniti? Hvala
ReplyDeleteThe founder and owner of Bosnian Wand Airlines is Al Wand Group from Iraq!
Deletepa čarobni štapić
DeleteI m wondering who has that much money to trash. This is a crash project before the first departure. Same non sense like Air Croatia.
ReplyDeleteAirCroatia makes no sense, non of us in Croatia understand who these people are, we know one is Albanian, the other Hercegovinian and a Bosnian.
DeleteWhen you have 3 individuals with no history in aviation promising haven and earth, no aircraft to show for, yet they're planning a route network that would exceed that of OU, than you start to smell something fishy about whole deal.
Can AirCroatia be the real thing, sure, can hell freeze over, sure if you understand quantum physics and the string theory, than you'd know Hell is going to freeze one day, in 500 trillion years that is.
By the way, will LX compete with OU in Zagreb or will they establish an expensive duopoly?
ReplyDeleteLX and OU will compete and cooperate.
DeleteOU has recently established a codeshare with KLM and Air France on Amsterdam and Paris flights. They sell each other's capacity on their web (booking engine).
the first seats that an airline is motivated to sell (least expensive rates) are its own seats which is natural.
I believe LX and OU will cooperate and exposure/visibility of their codes will help the sales of both. Given LX is much larger/stronger, it will benefit more, but still an OK deal for OU, more transfer pax for both and additional emitive markets for ZAG and Croatia...
I still think it's bad for OU, yet another route on which they have to share the passengers with a competitor.
DeleteI am still hoping that some like LX or KL might still cancel or reduce their flights. OU's yields on AMS took a big hit since KL entered the market.
@AnonymousJanuary 15, 2015 at 11:07 AM
Deletecompetition is always good, don't forget OU was competing on same route before and they did just fine, they are competing on London, Paris, Frankfurt, Zurich, Munich, Copenhagen, and the're doing just fine. OU will just need to adjust to new market conditions and lower prices where and when possible.
Prices are very high on routes OU has no competition, so I am very happy to see some competition going, better for all who want to fly.
@ Anon 12:48
Delete"nd the're doing just fine"
I would be interested to know what are you basing this oppinion. Do you have some insight into loads yields etc.
In this time of low fuel prices OU is making very little money but at least they seem to be in black. This is at times when they got rid of some people, closed offices etc. So the fact that the market they had for themselves now they have to share can mean only one thing and that is that yield or LF or both are suffering on this route and consequently their income is going to take a hit. And it doesn't take much to take it into negative territory.
Listen, all these new flights to ZAG are great for ZAG operator and the passingers becouse it generally means lower prices, more frequencies etc. However, all this is a disaster for OU. And what's even worse is that they can't do anything about it except sit and watch EU companies take money out of their pockets.
@SMJanuary 15, 2015 at 2:10 PM
DeleteYou seem to have a viewpoint where only a state run airline should be a sole operator, in your vision only state run airlines are deemed with right to exist ?
OU is a stat run airline that was poorly run by incompetent and corrupt management politically appointed to suit political aims of who ever was in power. At the same time Zagreb was poorly connected and service was bellow par.
As soon as new airlines come to Zagreb you yell what about OU? What about OU, if they're competent enough they'll compete, we are in the EU, they should be able to compete with other EU airlines. Is OU going to bankrupt as a result of EU competition, no it won't, OU will need to re-adjust its marketing and business strategy and compete. OU is doing fine from the latest reports, and I see no problem with bit or a lot of competition.
Also Amsterdam, London, Paris, Frankfurt, Munich, Vienna, Copenhagen and Brussels are still undeserved, demand for these routes is growing, many Croats are moving to live in Denmark, especially younger generations, I have to friends who are working in Copenhagen now, they just got the job in an IT company there, another friend got a job at an architecture firm, and another has just moved to Holland.
Since Croatia joined the EU almost 2 years ago, 50 000 highly educated young professionals have moved to work in the EU, mainly Scandinavia, Benelux and the UK.
I am seeing massive demand for above routes, reason why KLM and others are moving in to tap this demand, OU can barely keep up and I see plenty of room for more players, I think Amsterdam should have at least 30-32 weekly flights, London 50-55, Paris 42-45, Frankfurt 55-60, Copenhagen 24-25 and so on.
The fact that OU is barely covering 20% of the market demand on all their routes is pathetic and poor excuse for an airline, plenty of room for all players.
2,5 million hardly sounds like "plenty of room".
Delete@ anon 3:26
DeleteI’m not of an opinion that only state run airlines should be allowed to run. Fortunately, we are well passed that point in history and thanks to that flying is more affordable than ever and available to everyone not just privileged few. What my preference would be if I was Croatian citizen (and I’m not just to be clear) is that Croatian run company (state owned or private doesn’t matter) employing local people, who pay taxes locally and spend their earnings locally, serves that demand and capitalizes on all those tourists that come to Croatia every year. Instead what’s happening, because OU is weak and paying the price of the EU rules (that grossly favor big companies and we know where they are from), is that the demand is satisfied by companies who employ people from UK, Netherlands etc. and overall net effect of the transported pax for Croatian economy is almost zero. Hence, what you have the biggest problem of all Balkan states imo and that is so called brain-drain. Think about it, tons of young, smart, highly educated people leaving for greener pastures because there is no work for them locally. Government invested a lot in their education and at the end they get very little in return while some other country which invested exactly zero in them and is reaping rewards of their work, collecting their income taxes etc. Maybe some of those 50K people would elect to stay in Croatia if they could get a job in OU, who knows. That is my point on all of this and that’s why I think that it’s going to take years and years in order for our countries to see positive effects of EU membership.
Now if you look at all of this from the individual perspective then you are glowing. More airlines, more options, lower prices-what’s there not to like. But if look at the economy as a whole, picture is lot different unfortunately.
@ Anon 5:59 PM
DeleteThat is a good point, I’m sure some EU nationals moved to Croatia to capitalize on for business purposes to capitalize on low cost environment and educated workforce especially in the IT sector. Also, in tourism I’m sure that there is quite a bit of them. I have a hard time believing that a guy from Denmark came to Croatia to work as an engineer in Rade Koncar for example. Also, I have a hard time believing that is the ratio of those that leave and come in is 5:3. Again, I don’t have any statistics available to back my statements but it seems a bit high. I’m not sure how fair this comparison is at all since they still pay good portion of their taxes in their home country , they are far less likely to reinvest their earnings locally etc. etc.
I agree with you that possible demise of OU and bunch of other companies might be the price to pay for all good EU membership brings. We’ve seen that recently with CY as well so its not unique to Croatia. What you and I probably don’t is the net worth (especially short term) of all the money coming back. This only time will tell. My problem is that all that money is not free (lots of strings attached) and I’m afraid you, your kids and maybe even grandkids are going to have to repay at some point (there is nothing for free in life).Also, bunch of projects are done by foreign companies (especially in construction) since the local ones are disqualified by the tender requirements. So, all taken together I still have a tough time convincing myself that there is a net benefit somewhere, short term especially.
hey everybody - Europe's Best Destinations 2014, Zagreb #2 ...
Deletehttp://www.europeanbestdestinations.com/top/europe-best-destinations-2014/
@SMJanuary 15, 2015 at 5:09 PM
DeleteIndeed, brain drain is a major problem for Croatia, althogh I must point out since Croatia joined the EU 50 000 Croats have left Croatia, some 30 000 EU nationals have moved in to Croatia, 5000 Britis, about same number of French, Italian, German, Austrian and Benelux nationals, as well as Scandinavians. One of my best m8s in Zagreb is from Stockholm, and another Norwegian friend also lives and works in Zagreb, with an IT firm there.
Its all relative, as Croatian economy improves many more young people will opt out to say in Croatia, but as things are we need to accept them as they are. OU is Croatian airline indeed as you pointed out, but don't forget we also get EU funds, loads of EU funds, $12.5 billion fro 2015-2019 period + non discretionary funds for various EU based projects in tune of some $3.2 billion.
I think you'd agree that it is fair exchange if EU looses bit to EU partners, after all the amount of money we'll be getting from the EU would could buy 5 Croatian airlines each year, as I've said its all relative.
Petar
DeleteUvek razlicito pise na raznim sajtovima ali svaka cast ZAG da je to uspeo ko je najzasluzni za to.
I jel znate koja turisticka Agencija ima najvise posla u ZAG
Hvala unapred :)
INN-NS
+1
DeleteVery sick!
@ Anon 10:34 PM
DeleteThat is a good point, I’m sure some EU nationals moved to Croatia to capitalize on for business purposes to capitalize on low cost environment and educated workforce especially in the IT sector. Also, in tourism I’m sure that there is quite a bit of them. I have a hard time believing that a guy from Denmark came to Croatia to work as an engineer in Rade Koncar for example. Also, I have a hard time believing that is the ratio of those that leave and come in is 5:3. Again, I don’t have any statistics available to back my statements but it seems a bit high. I’m not sure how fair this comparison is at all since they still pay good portion of their taxes in their home country , they are far less likely to reinvest their earnings locally etc. etc.
I agree with you that possible demise of OU and bunch of other companies might be the price to pay for all good EU membership brings. We’ve seen that recently with CY as well so its not unique to Croatia. What you and I probably don’t is the net worth (especially short term) of all the money coming back. This only time will tell. My problem is that all that money is not free (lots of strings attached) and I’m afraid you, your kids and maybe even grandkids are going to have to repay at some point (there is nothing for free in life).Also, bunch of projects are done by foreign companies (especially in construction) since the local ones are disqualified by the tender requirements. So, all taken together I still have a tough time convincing myself that there is a net benefit somewhere, short term especially.
@SMJanuary 15, 2015 at 10:36 PM
Deleteactually large number of international/EU staff that works for various regional corporate HQs, another Brit friend of mine has a farm in Croatia with his Croatian wife, they live in Varazdin county, another one has a olive orchard and vineyard on Korcula, all young mostly men, in their 20s and 30s. some in 40s. Many work for differnt EU based conglomerates that opened shops in Zagreb, many liked Croatia and Zagreb and stayed on, have a French friend who is a cheff in local hotel here, another Spanish friend who is just now opening a salsa bar in Zagreb. Another friend from US/UK well he got his British passport cause of his mom, but is a yank, and has just opened mex-tex restaurant in Zagreb, or is about to, haven't spoken to him for few months now.
there are loads of EU nationals who are moving to Croatia for its cheap, advanced infrastructure and well educated workforce, and relatively rich country too.
Peter also explained Zagreb had 970 000 visitors in 2014, this number will go up, and has been going up steadily at 11-15% rate for past 4 years, it went down really bad in 2009 and 2010, when it went from 975 000 to 570 000 or there about, it was really bad time for Zagreb, but now numbers are going up steadily at decent rate, this year Zagreb will most likely have around 1.1 million visitors and around 2 million nights. many tourist arriving to Zagreb are UK, US, Canadian, Australian. Chinese, Korean and Japanese, i.e use plane to get here and leave, so numbers will go up, and I am sure OU will play significant role in bringing these to Zagreb.
Zagreb is served by around 22 foreign carriers now, with around 3 more to start flights this year, that we know off, and 3 very likely carriers that will announce their Zagreb flights. SAS, CSA, Alitalia. Bringing total to 28 almost 30, next year this number will surely pass 30, and OU will just need to adjust and I can tell you this, OU will survive no matter what, there's a massive market OU hasn't even tapped in to, plenty of fish in the sea.
Stop the troll at 03:26, 05:59, 09:17 PM!
DeleteTrolling day after day about his dreams...
@INN-NS - postoje 2 različite statistike:
Delete1.HTZ (sustav Hrvatskih turističkih zajednica)
2. DZS (Državni zavod za statistiku)
Iako su brojevi gotovo isti unutar 1%, u slučaju Zagreba iz nekog razloga HTZ je lani objavio 811.000 turista, a DZS otprilike 865.000.
Tako i ove godine, HTZ objavi za neki mjesec broj, a onda DZS objavi nešto veći. DZS bit trebao bit točniji... kao :)
HTZ za Zagreb u 2014. objavio konačno 911.000, a pretpostavljam da je realno (prema DZS) oko 950-960.000
Od domaćih agencija najveći je Atlas, a mislim da najviše gostiju u Zagreb dolazi putem OTA (on line travel agency) www.booking.com, te u posljednje vrijeme www.airbnb.com
Vjerovatno svako emitivno tržište (svaka strana) zemlja koja dovodi goste u ZAG ima svoju neku agenciju... teško mi je reći koja dominira najviše.
samo još da spomenem kako DZS objavi svoje brojke oko 3 tjedna nakon HTZa...tako da ćemo točno znati znati krajem 1. mjeseca...
Deleteja inače radim za hotelski lanac koji ima 13 hotela od 3 i 4 zvjezdice, ali mi nemamo hotele u Zagrebu, već su svi na hrvatskoj obali. Uprava (centrala je u Zagrebu).
DeleteDa imaju ove strane
DeleteNaprimer kod jedne je 1 London 2 Pariz
A kod druge 1 Madrid 2 Bec
Opet kazem svaka cast kako se ZAG izborio u Turistickom svetu nije lako bice zanimljivo na Primoriju HR ovo leto dolaskom TUI-a posto ovde u Innsbrucku cine cuda :)
INN-NS
What about the troll at 03:26, 05:59, 09:17 PM?
DeleteIsn't he dangerous? :)
INN-NS, mislim da je Zagreb i nas u Hrvatskoj iznenadio. Stvarno je do neke 2005/06/07 bio ultra dosadan, iako i onda lijep grad. Rovinj i Dubrovnik su ga doslovno "ubijali". Danas je potpuno drugačije, iako je # noćenja u Zagrebu tek #7 u Hrvatskoj, što je logično (većina se zadrži kratko, jer hoće vidjeti ostatak Hrvatske).
DeleteDa, TUI ulazi intenzivnije u Hrvatsku 2015 i još uvijek je iznimno jak u Europi, iako business Tour Operatora polako odumire... sljedeći najveći uprunning igrač je upravo www.booking.com...
no vidjet ćemo ... :)
Ne razumem se bas u Hotelski business jel vi saradjujete sa neki Aviokompanijama . :)
DeleteINN-NS
ne direktno, ali segment dolazaka gostiju preko tour operatora upravo dolazi avionima na SPU. Primjerice, Apollo je švedski tour operator i on među ostalom puni SAS avione itd.
Deletenaša hotelska kuća je među osalom i vlasnik aerodroma Brač.
Ja sam letos nekoliko puta gledao nekoliko puta Q400 od AUA i bili su dosta dobro popunjeni na routi Innsbruck - Brac to sam gledao dok u Julu nisam otisao za SRB.
DeleteINN-NS
Amateurs.
ReplyDeleteCan Wand fly routes from Scandinavia to Iraq without flying in Bosnia?
ReplyDeleteThey have a magic wand aircraft, they can do anything the hell they want.
DeleteProbably, notice the aircraft has French not Bosnian rego.
DeleteInteresting, it says in the article here. They are operating with Hermes Air IATA code (Greece) with a leased French aircraft, operating from Bosnia o.O
DeleteBWA moze da leti gde hoce sa IATA kodom H3.
DeleteINN-NS
Than they will not fly much from SJJ.
DeletePress release from BHDCA: "In reference to the information circulated by the media in the last several days, stating that a company named “Bosnian Wand Airlines” was to operate its first flight from Bosnia and Herzegovina, we would like to inform the public that said company does not hold an Air Operator Certificate (AOC) issued by the Bosnia and Herzegovina Directorate of Civil Aviation, which is a necessary requirement for the provision of air transport of passengers and goods for commercial purposes.
ReplyDeleteAlthough the company, having the adjective Bosnian in its name, has a number of employees who are citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina, it is, above all, not an airline, contrary to what was stated in certain media reports.
A request for the flight, which had been announced to be operated from Sarajevo to Amsterdam on January 9, was submitted by the Greek airline "Hermes Airlines", and not by the company "Bosnia Wand Airlines"."
OT: Air Serbia from Nis?
ReplyDeletehttp://flyfromnis.blogspot.com/2015/01/djurdjanovic-nadamo-se-uspesnom-zavrsetku-pregovora-sa-air-serbia-om.html
ASL mora da leti tamo gde ce dobiti pare a ne da bi usrecila Nislije i da gubi pare na toj routi.
DeleteINN-NS
Bolje Niš nego Innsbruck... Sigurno bi se više isplatilo.
Deleteahahhah Jeste INI bi se vise isplatio nego INN ;)
DeleteINN-NS
Mozda ce leteti maksimum 6-7 puta nedeljno BEG-INI-BEG, zaista ne verujem da ce leteti iz Nisa za Evropu, kad putnici mogu da presednu u Beogradu na drugi let. A morali bi i da 'prizemlje' jedan avion tamo, da bi obavljao te letove, sto ce se, priznacete, veoma tesko dogoditi s obzirom da se i ovako suocavaju sa nedostatkom aviona u floti.
DeleteBG | NIC
100 puta se vise isplati da lete za Innsbruck 6-7 pw. nego za Nis
DeleteINN-NS
Even though this probably isn't the best start of a company ever, at least they've put tickets on sale again.
ReplyDeleteAmsterdam is now on sale for 198 Euros, which is a lot better than their previous attempt of 400 Euros...
O.T. Pisalo je ovde da će Air Serbia da leti za Kinu u martu-aprilu. Kad počinje prodaja karata i kojim avionom lete?
ReplyDeleteGde je to pisalo? Jedino je to ovde pisao u komentarima INN-NS
DeleteProvocira te, duh!
DeleteNe znam tačno ko je pisao ali sam sigurno ovde pročitao da Air Serbia leti za Kinu od marta ili aprila! Nemojte me praviti budalom šta je sad bilo sa tim???
DeleteJa jedino sta sam procitao na tu temu ovde je ovaj clanak i nigde ne pise da pocinju letovi ni u martu ni u aprilu http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/2014/12/serbia-china-sign-agreement-to.html
Deletepisalo je u komentarima samo se onaj ko je to pisao sad pravi da ne zna o cemu se radi. sigurno nece biti tih letova u aprilu
DeletePa doce ove godine A330 u bojama ASL
DeleteINN-NS
Pitanje nije bilo da li ce ove godine farbati avione u te boje. Sad sam pogledao i tacno je da se pisalo kako ce ti avioni stici u martu/aprilu i leteti za Peking i Sangaj. Znaci ne treba verovati svakakvim komentarima ovde.
DeleteTo ne zavisi do mene sto nije dosao nego do Amerikanaca.
DeleteINN-NS
Nisu Amerikanci pisali o tome da ce ASL leteti za Kinu. Ne treba vise nista verovati onome ko je pisao.
DeleteJa sam pisao ali nisam nigde navodio tacan Datum.
DeleteRazgovori bi trebali da se nastae u toku FEB.
A vas cilj je da provocirate ali niste ni malo uspeli.
INN-NS
Razgovori bi trebali da se nastae u toku JAN a na konferenciji koja bi trebala biti u FEB znacemo vise
DeleteINN-NS .
Ја већ одавно не верујем ништа што има тај потпис.
DeleteMight as well announce flights to the US and Canada. You can announce anything apparently to get your name in the news and then cancel later.
ReplyDeleteOT: Five days ago we all read about Ex YU airlines' ratings on AirlineRatings.com site. Today I went there and was surprised to find very different ratings. Air Serbia is no longer treated as regional airline, and product score is better than any other in the Ex YU (5/7). Safety score is 6/7, same as B&H and Croatia, and higher than others. Overall ASL is now top rated in Ex YU.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand I was really stunned to see Wizz ratings at 4/7 (safety) and 2,5/5 (product). Granted, they are not Ex YU airline but operate at many regional airports.
Average passenger rating for Air Serbia 6/10!
DeleteCorrection is in order.
DeleteUnlike safety and product ratings, their passenger ratings are all over the place. Adria has only 3 reviews so they got 9/10, but how relevant is opinion of only 3 people? Air France and United Airlines have only 3/10 passenger rating so it does not look like results from professional polls and market research reports.
DeleteAmendments to the ratings were made today, presumably after the website was contacted by the company itself.
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