Air Serbia has launched sales for its Belgrade - New York service today and revealed its scheduling and pricing for the route, which is to begin on June 23. Formally, the Serbian Prime Minister, Aleksandar Vučić, marked the start of ticket sales today at the Belgrade Tourism Fair. The airline will operate a split schedule for its five weekly service, with a select number of flights departing Belgrade in the morning, while an afternoon departure is scheduled on other days. The full schedule can be viewed here. Flights have been timed so as to connect onto the airline's regional network. The carrier will retain the same flight numbers used by its predecessor JAT Yugoslav Airlines on the route (JU 500/501), which was suspended 24 years ago. To celebrate the new service, Air Serbia is offering travellers special promotional fares, with round trips originating from Belgrade starting at 399 euros for economy class and 2.499 for business class, including taxes and charges. These special introductory fares will be available for purchase from February 18 to 24 and can be booked through the Air Serbia website.
Air Serbia A330-200 product
Air Serbia will lease a Jet Airways Airbus A330-200 aircraft for its first transatlantic service, which will have the capacity to seat 256 passengers - 18 in business class and 238 in economy
BUSINESS CLASS
Business class cabin includes leather upholstered fully flat beds, with a 63.5 inch length, dine on demand service with a range of a la carte meals made from Serbian produce, turn down service, inflight entertainment with the latest Hollywood movies, TV shows and a broad range of Serbian and international films and a generous baggage policy of 2 X 32 kilograms complimentary pieces of checked luggage.
ECONOMY CLASS
Economy class cabin includes three meal options, including traditional Serbian dish, inflight entertainment including the latest Hollywood movies, TV shows and a broad range of Serbian and international films and a generous baggage policy of 2 X 23 kilograms complimentary pieces of checked luggage.
Air Serbia's CEO, Dane Kondić said, "We can feel the excitement building around our upcoming flights to New York and are delighted to announce the start of sales on this route. Our flight schedule has been carefully designed to offer guests convenient connections to New York from across the Balkans, as well as great onward connectivity upon reaching New York to popular cities such as Chicago". He added, “This vital air bridge has significant historical importance, which is reflected in the fact that Air Serbia has retained its flight numbers from 1992, the year of the last transatlantic flight between Serbia and the United States. We are pleased to report that our flight approval request with the United States civil aviation authorities is progressing well and we are on track for a successful launch in June 2016”.
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| First passengers to book tickets for flight JU500 - Kyle Scott and Marija Gaćeša |
Marking the occasion, the Serbian Prime Minister said, “This is a great and positive symbol for Serbia. There are no originating flights to the USA from any other country in the region, which is why there is such a huge interest in the new offering from Air Serbia. I am very happy that today, at the Tourism Fair, we can announce the start of ticket sales on the Belgrade - New York route”. Proceeds from the sale of the first pair of business class and economy class tickets will be donated to the Blic Foundation, an organisation dedicated to providing humanitarian assistance in Serbia.
Looking forward have return ticket BEG✈JFK.
ReplyDeleteRodney.
Are you returning to Australia or just going to New York for the weekend?
DeleteYes I returning to Australija on end of March. Stay up to ten weeks. If is ticket available, than, I do love to fly to NEW YORK on YU500 and return on same day, same plane on YU 501 to Belgrade. Simply, love to be on that historic journey. If that flight be avillable, that be all about I wish to say. And about end of August I return to Australia, and stay in Sydney to end of November. Than returning to Kraljevo again. To stay for winter. Hope to understand my dynamic journeys. Trips like this is believe or not is very parts of my life.
DeleteOnce again, God Bless you Anon 12:26 PM
Radovan✈
You seem to enjoy flying more than anything. Good for you bratko.
DeleteAbsolutly! Flying to me is joy.
DeleteMore than 4000 hours so far, aircrafts is my home. Traveling from continent to continent, usual is my destinations. In so many decades. Hoppe to continuing...✈
All the best Anon 8:25 PM
Rod.✈ LYKV✈SYD
"Air Serbia will lease a Jet Airways Airbus A330-200 aircraft for its first transatlantic service"
ReplyDeleteShouldn't this read;
"Air Serbia have leased a Jet Airways Airbus A330-200 aircraft for its first transatlantic service"?
Wasn't Mali in Germany showing it off a few weeks ago? I thought it was being painted in JU colors.
Germany? It was in Abu Dhabi.
DeleteYes you are right.
Deletehttp://www.exyuaviation.com/2016/01/air-serbia-to-take-delivery-of-a330-in.html
but this story says the plane is an currently operated by Ethiad, not Jet?
It's a Jet Airways A330 on lease to Etihad, which has now ended services for Etihad and will go to Air Serbia.
DeleteDoes anyone know how many aircraft the Etihad group airlines can spare for the transatlantic expansion of ASL?
DeleteNew York is only the beginning.
Ovo je ve liki dan. Prve karte za prvi istorijski let pod imenom Air Serbia na letu do USA. Zelim jednu povratnu kartu za Prvi let BEG✈JFK. Radovan✈
ReplyDeleteRadovane jel zivite u SRB? Bas lepo.
DeleteDa dragi Anon 9:21 AM.
DeleteOko pola godine zivim u Srbiji Otadzbini, a drugu polovinu sa potomstvom u Domovini Australiji. Ako uspim da kupim kartu za prvi let BEG✈JFK, u junu cu biti u Beogradu, zbog leta kome se neograniceno radujem. Samnom, ili bez mene, najmanje je vazno. I onako u ovoj godini imacu dva povratna leta iz Beograda do Sydney - a sto ce sa time biti mojih ukupno 73 povratna leta izmedju Otadzbine i Domovine u cetrdeset sedmoj godini od kada letim. To sam opisao u mojoj prvoj knjizi ''Od Polarisa do Juznog Krsta''. Blagodaran sam Vam. Er Srbiji mirno nebo, dosta gostiju i lep profit u biznisu. Srecno Vam dolazece prolece. Pa i meni dobar let u martu BEG✈SYD.
Rod & dobrozeljatelji✈
Small step to Air Serbia, but great step for there passengers!✈. Love your first take of, from Belgrade. runways at JFK awaiting your wings, Air Serbia. Love day today. ✈Rod & Associat's✈
DeleteI would say it is a very huge step for AS. Looking forward to ORD and YYZ.
DeleteThey MUST have a partner on the US side if they want this to succeed. It just won't work (too much potential dumping capacity on transfer flights by *A) if they can only bring you to JFK. Maybe they don't have to have a partner for the flashy opening today, but they must have it ASAP; they can't wait until June.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteIf Star Alliance airlines dump cheap fares to our market in order to harm Air Serbia the government has an obligation to protect us from anticompetitive practices.
It should launch investigations on illegal dumping and make sure that it stops.
To day is a great day in the history of Serbian and ex-yu aviation!
Really, will it in same standards make investigation on Air Serbia illegal dumping (financed by State) that Air Serbia had last two years?
DeleteIt was all right that Air Serbia had dumping for 2 years now (LJU-BEG-OTP-BEG-LJU for as low as 110 EUR) but now it is not OK if some other companies will have dumping to protect their interest?
You are joking, right?
Haha, and what about when JU dumps fares from other markets? Isn't it the same thing?
DeleteJU has to be ready for attacks from other airlines, perfectly normal. Then their product, frequencies, schedule, value, marketing, frrequnet flier programs, tacticals etc should fight it. Just like for any other airline.
JU fares starting at 399 EUR!
DeleteThe JU haters are out in force today.
DeleteIt is a difficult day for them...
Why? It really isn't because we all know what a financial disaster this route will be, not to mention the one aircraft in the long-haul fleet. This is just a begining of a wonderful period for us haters.
DeleteWhy would not not just fly for free
Delete...the only reason is to fly not to make money
It is the first of many more airplanes to come.
DeleteThe new wings of Europe are going to fly high and far.
Congratulations to everyone!
^^ and who will pay for this?
DeleteThe airline is profitable so it will pay them by itself.
DeleteGo Air Serbia, fly high!
No, really, after so many documents that shows how Air Serbia gets multi-million EUR financial support every year, you still say they are profitable?
Delete399 for JFK flights with structure they have (one plane, no discount in JFK because of just 5 flights per week, comparing to discounts companies like LH, BA, AF... have because of 60+ flights per week) is huge loosing money on each flight!!!!
It is not about money (who cares about it) but the prestigue
Delete@11:48
DeleteWithout the cost structure to back up such claims, I can't take what you're saying seriously.
But out of interest, is there a magic number, where you would consider airfare to be commercially viable, while not too expensive as to kill the LF - and of course to prevent you from commenting about it, just from a different angle?
Or, if not, again just out of interest, where is the exact line between the two mantras we hear all the time (losing money - too expensive, nobody will fly)?
Also, please take note that there are dozens of different fare buckets and that the pricing will change according to demand (and other factors). They will not sell out the entire cabin on any single flight at these prices.
DeleteJ prices are interesting, Y*7 as far as I can tell. However, still one of the cheaper fares around, and with full J on European flights, they might actually have a good LF in the premium cabin. Pax really hate stepping off international J (or F) into Eurobiz for the final (or first) leg. Wonder if Y+ would have been a good idea...
Perseverance pays off for Air Serbia. Congratulations!
ReplyDeleteThey start selling tickets but
ReplyDelete1. Still did not publish time-table
2. Have no partner in USA to feed JFK flights for connections in USA and Canada
3. Have no information about new connected flights from exYu and other feeding routes that will connect in BEG (summer time table starts in one month and still we don't know frequencies and even routes)
Strange, strange, strange...
This is just inauguration. Relax.
DeleteDon't worry, professionals do their job.
Have a nice day!
What professionals? ;) Seems like there aren' that many in JU given the lack of progress since August.
DeleteDo they? On 18th February we don't have idea about summer time-table, possible connections...
DeleteIf I want to by SKP-BEG-JFK-BEG-SKP today what is my itinerary? Or you think I will pay for blind ticket without knowing that?
All regional and European flights are already in the system for summer. The only change will be the addition of other new routes so not sure what you are getting at.
Deletecheck airserbia.com
Deleteit was mentioned a month ago some increases in the timetable. OTP, SOF, DBV, SPU, BEY will see increase in frequencies. Other than JFK, it was mentioned a week ago by another member that 3 more routes will open, PRN seems it will be one of them, and a forth one could possibly open.
Just because you badly hate something and want it sunk, does not mean it is actually sinking.
DeleteEven if the JU ship sinks it will become a submarine. A ballistic missile one that will hunt its haters everywhere!
DeleteAhaha annonymous 10:38 : +1!
Delete"Other than JFK, it was mentioned a week ago by another member that 3 more routes will open, PRN seems it will be one of them, and a forth one could possibly open."
DeleteJATBEGMEL other than that one random anon nobody else ever said anything about 3 other routes except PRN of course. Do you have some info from any other source other than one anon on here? It would be great if JU could open few more routes, but with what aircraft? Now its already passed mid February. There were also rumors that JU will get back 2 old B737 into services. Any info about that?
CAI, LED, & MUC
Delete^Not true at all. Please don't post things you don't know. Like you have to guess new Croatia Airlines routes you will have to guess Air Serbia too because they will be kept secret until official announcement.
Deleteso there will be new routes then anon 8:33?
DeleteYes that's the current plan. All I can say is they are not far away.
DeleteCAI, LED, & MUC.
Deleteconfirmed from reliable source.
^Your source is wrong. But ok you will see soon.
DeleteMy source is correct, what do you have to say to that? You will soon see. Announcement coming soon.
Delete"Yes that's the current plan. All I can say is they are not far away."
DeleteThanks, I think I get the idea which they are, but as someone previously said its 3 destinations,right?
Yes, 3 destinations.
DeleteFingers crossed that this transatlantic adventure proves to be long term success, distanced from the politics.
ReplyDeleteBut why JU500/501? They created a logical system for all flight numbers, only to mess with it afterwards... First Malta 690/691 and now NY with 500/501. Not that it matters that much really...
Maybe in our history-rewriting region, it's just a small bit of heritage that shines through that code.
DeleteFair winds, Air Serbia!
Random dates in September on Orbitz, return economy for 450€. Not bad at all. :)
ReplyDeletegledas let sa 1 stop
DeleteNope, non stop! :)
Deletehttps://www.kayak.com/flights/BEG-JFK/2016-09-08-flexible/2016-09-22-flexible/2adults
Now it offers the same route for as low as 400€ / return. :) That's less than what I used to pay for BRU-SPU via ZAG in summer months...
DeleteYOu haven`t read it correct. It`s 450 USD one way. 890 USD return ticket. GO AS, go! :)
Deleteako procitas svoj prethodni post shvatices da si pricao o Orbitz-u, u tom momenut Orbitz nije imao karte u sistemu. Ali sobziom da je amadeus pustio uskoro ce imati svi. Nema potrebe za losim informacijama. poz
DeleteKayak always provides prices for return trips and there are now several online search engines offering these prices. Half an hour ago it was Orbitz but when clicking it would report an error. Skyscanner and Momondo are now logically also displaying a number of booking options with these prices...
Delete@Anonymous 11:09 The price is for 2 adults, that's why. On top of it, if you now go Airserbia.com with these dates, the final price is 398€ return!
http://imgur.com/SfrOGXa
DeleteEUR 492
DeleteAmadeus GDS (flights started from June23:
ReplyDeleteJU500 124 BEG 1 JFK 4 0730 1200
JU500 56 BEG 1 JFK 4 1255 1725
JU501 124 JFK 4 BEG 1 1440 0530+1
JU501 56 JFK 4 BEG 1 1930 1020+1
Congratulation ! Pity that the flights are not bookable yet.
DeleteNot good!!!!! That will make very bad connectivity
Deletejust few feeding routes (exYu etc) will have good connectivity on 12-4---, but not those who does not have overnight flights. On other dates there would be 6 hours stopover in BEG.
In same time on ----56- there is 3 hours stopover in BEG, and on other days 8 hours stopover. Very, very, very unmotivated for potential passengers.
So passenger from SJJ or SKP can fly only on ----56- to JFK with 6 hours stopover and 12-4--- with 8 hours stopover and ----56- with 3 hours stopover.
Connectivity just 2 flights per week. Not good at all!!!
I hope they will open overnight flights to most feeding routes at least for 12-4--- days (3 times per week).
mozda dodatno uposle flotu atr-ova po regionu tokom noci ne bi li bolje punili onaj jutarnji polazak ili odluce da vecernji Zagreb, Ljubljanu ... pretvore u rani jutarnji polazak - videcemo. svakako ima prostora za unapredjenje reda letenja kako bi JFK imao dobro punjenje. Jos kad bi stigao neki noviji atr bilo bi odlicno.
DeleteVrlo loša konektiranost ako neće nešto bitno promijeniti u feeding rutama spram prošle godine.
DeleteDakle ako sada gledamo feeding linije, one imaju dobre konekcije za JFK u dane 12-4---, ali tih overnight linija je jako malo. Zapravo tak 2-3 linije dnevno. Za sve ostale koji su u valu iz BEG oko 13:30 ovo je smak svijeta. Ostalim danima za sve feeding linije u jugoističnoj Europi stopover je 6 sati u BEG.
U povratku za dane ----56- stop over iz JFK u BEG je 3 sata, a ostale dane čak 8 sati stopovera. To je vrlo, vrlo loše i demotivirajuće za putnike.
Što znači, da ako ne uvedu noćne letove za BNX, SJJ, SKP, TGD, TIV, PRN, TIA, ATH, SKG, TLV, BEY, SOF, OTP, VAR, LCA, bar za dane 12-4--- konektiranosti za sve njih uopće nema (ako je jedini dolazak u 16:30 u BEG to se ne konektira ni na što), a ako se i uvede samo noćni let, prihvatljiva konektiranost će biti tek 2 leta tjedno, što sigurno neće donijeti velik broj transfernih putnika.
Znači feeding linije bi morale letjeti
12-4--- noćni let 00:15 - 06:30 da love JFK letove u odlasku iz BEG
----5-- jutarnji let, tj. "zapadni val" da ulove konekciju iz JFK i za JFK
-----67 svoj uobičajni "istočni val" oko 13:00 da ulove konekciju iz JFK (sa 3 sata stopovera što je poprilično)
I to bi napravilo tek 3 prihvatljive tjedne konekcije (4 u odlasku, 3 u dolasku), u ostale dane uvođenje noćnog leta značilo bi dugo čekanje za konekcije u BEG kako u odlaku, tako i u dolasku.
Da li ti strucnjace shvatas da sada oko 110000 ide do USA iz BEG a da je kapacitet ovih letova manji od 60000? Ebe im se konektiviti ako privuku svakog treceg. prosto zaboravi pacenike iz regiona.
DeleteAnonymous 2:13, reci mi koji je razlog da Grčka (recimo) nema letove za USA, osim sezonskih, a sigurno ima veću potražnju i potencijal od Srbije?
DeleteГодишње путује око 800,000 путника између Грчке и САД од чега око 85,000 за Чикаго.
DeleteG. Purger
Deleteda li ce ZAG/Hrvatska dozvoliti da ASL prenoci i poleti ujutru oko 05 i 30. Znamo da postoji problem transfera preko BEG. Unapred hvala
anonymous 110.000 prvo sam mislio niti ne komentirati ovo, jer to je stvarno pučkoškolsko raspravljanje za sve one koji iole znaju nešto o zračnom prometu:
Delete1. Ukupna brojka putnika se kalkulira raznim alatima koji objedinjuju određene kategorije putnika sa "početnom" i "završnom" destinacijom. Kako ima velik broj putnika koji koriste separatne karte, koji obavljaju više ciljeva putovanja, pa putovanje traje više dana i ima više sredstava putovanja, kako isti objedinjuju tek zračne luke i kompanije koje su u sustavu, ovaj podatak, iako jest stanoviti alat i indikator, niti je precizan, niti dovoljno kvalitetan za ikakvu ozbiljniju analizu. Ozbiljnih alata ima tek 3 u svijetu i oni koštaju zračne luke koje ih koriste mnogo stotina tisuća EUR godišnje.
2. Da bi Air Serbia bila na break-even (naravno ne računajući dumping) trebala bi ostvariti 105.000 SAD putnika u idućih godinu dana, tj. preko 50.000 u jednoj strani. To je pola brojke koju ste napisali. A ako bi Air Serbija stvarno privukla svakog drugog putnika (uz sve ostale konkurente) onda bi bila svjetsko čudo.
3. Naravno, u brojci koju ste naveli su i druge destinacije u SAD-u, a ne samo JFK, za koje je konkurentnija LH, SU, TK, LO, OS, AF, KL... jer za sada niti JU ima feeding partnera u SAD-u, a ako će ga i imati još uvijek će za sve ostale destinacije u SAD-u lavovski dio kolača uzeti navedene kompanije.
4. Po logici navedenih alata ATH, BUD i OTP bi trebali imati barem 10 linija prema SAD-u. Kao što znamo, nemaju ih.
5. Ima tu još jako puno argumenata ali za to bi trebao medij koji prihvaća daleko više teksta...
Ne lupetaj i ne glumi strucnjaka kada nisi i zali se exYu za cifre. Ostatak putnika dolazi od jadnika iz Amerike koji uvek imaju duplo vece cene od putnika iz Jevrope. Nisam ti nigde napisao pola vec samo trecinu. Ukupno mogu da prevezu oko 60000 putnika tamo i vamo malo ce ih biti samo u jednom pravcu.
DeleteDrugi cekaju da im neko otvori liniju pa ni bivsi Jat ne bi smeo da je otvara sada. I Atina ima Deltu leti.
Cemu taj primitivni nacin izrazavanja? Da li je to stvarno potrebno?
DeleteActually, Athens has Delta, United and American Airlines during the summer months.
DeleteTrecina od 110.000 je 60.000? Cestitam!
DeleteOni bi sa 5 frekvencija tjedno mogli prevesti 67.000 putnika, a break even za long-haul bi morao biti 53.000 putnika. Dumping to još samo povečava. Znači pola od ukupne brojke koju spominjete za sve destinacije u SAD.
Atena ima Deltu sezonski, i???? Koji je to argument? Zar uspoređujete potražnju na BEG i ATH? Smatrate da govorimo o istoj potencijalnoj brojci putnika?
I ljubazno molim da izbacite ove prizemne izraze poput "lupetaj" i "ne glumi". Nismo na trznici. Ako imate potebu tako komunicirati, predlazem da odete na trzincu pa raspravljate sa piljaricama oko cijene i kvalitete krumpira, a ne da pokusavate raspravljati na civiliziranom forumu zrakoplovnih entuzijasta.
Purger, pls write in english, you hve such valuable comments, wld be cool if we all cld take part of them. Hvala
DeleteOpet on tuce ko Maxim po diviziji trecina od 110000 je oko 37000 ostalo stize iz amerike, ni osnovni racun nisi naucio. S tobom mora ko sa tetkama sa zagrebackih trznica slab
Deletesi ti entuzijasta.
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ReplyDeleteYou can buy return Tickets on the Website of airserbia for just 398€!
ReplyDelete16-23 august
Return flight only costs 186€, now thats really cheap.
Cheap labor and no airport fees equals low fares
ReplyDelete- expensive maintenance (of course it is much more expensive to maintenance just one plane than 50-60 of them)
Delete- no discounts because of just 5 weekly flights (main competition have even 100 weekly flights to JFK per week)
- rerouting will have huge costs concerning the fact that Etihad group have just 6 daily flights with possible connection to JU (and to reroute them on other airlines will cost a lot)
- operation costs are much higher (you must have spare crew on just one plane not like you have in fleet of 50 and more long-haul planes with less more crew for stand by or in case of leaving company)
- education for few pilots and cabin crew cost much more than for several hundred of them (or when you have your own system of education)
- catering, maintenance, crew lodging, petrol... costs in JFK are much higher then when you do it for 100 flights per week
- costs per seat is much higher for small plane (A330) than for bigger one (777, 747, A380) which competition usually use for JFK route
...so basically Air Serbia have very cheap ticket with higher costs per seat! And that makes profitability....????
Clearly all those are very bad news for Air Serbia.
DeleteKo kaze da ce ostati na jednom A330 i samo na liniji za JFK .
DeleteINN-NS
There are still many flights from US to Europe on the B757. If I remember right, on airliners.net there was a topic on transatlantic flights, and I believe the A330 was the most used between the US and Europe.
DeleteJU seems to be making AUH work, lately I have been amazed on how much more full those flights have become, considering last winter they were empty. JFK will be much easier with more O&D.
As for the rest, the whole idea behind the EY alliance was to overall bring lower costs network wide. EY could too benefit from adding JU flights to its bill, which then is divided accordingly. Fuel, accomodation, transportation...
As for cancellations, they are rare with amongst serious carriers. I have bad experiences with LH group who have twice forced me to search for alternatives, where as soo far JU have been fantastic, just usual 15-20 minutes late arrival in BEG from AUH. FZ is for example worse and is always a minimum 30 mins late everytime i check, who is more expensive and offers less compred to JU.
I think JU will do well on their new transatlantic route.
-education for few pilots and cabin crew cost much more than for several hundred of them (or when you have your own system of education) kako covek lupeta i zabavlja raju.
DeleteEvo konačno da se pruger oglasi sa malo više te negativne energije. Ti bi trebao da uđeš u vladu hrvatske sa ovim novim kanadskim premijerom. Na pozitivnoj strani želio bi pozdraviti sve one koji su radili naporno da se ovaj let pripremi u veoma kratkom roku.Njujork donosi više od leta i to će biti potvrđeno u narednih 14 mjeseci.
DeleteNegativne energije? Vi i ja smo na istom forumi ili?
DeleteLetovi za SAD su ogroman benefit. Donjet će Srbiji jako mnogo. Svaka čast svima koji su na tome radili, to je ogroman projekt, tona posla... Linija će donijeti i daleko veći broj konektiranih putnika iz šire regije, te olakšati funkcioniranje cijelog sustava.
No, tri stvari su tu upitne i to govorim od samog početka:
1. Jesu li benefiti opravani spram investicije? To malo ljudi zna i može izračunati, a za isto trebaju imati pristup podacima koje mi nemamo. Već sam jednom rekao i linija Podgorica-New Yorki bi donijela enormno puno benefita za Crnu Goru i njen turizam, i mogla bi se financirati iz crnogorskog proračuna, no jel bi takva akrobacija bila isplativa za majušnu Crnu Goru?
2. Može li Air Serbija sa toliko skromnim prometom i slabim konekcijama uopće održati ovakvu liniju? Daleko, ali daleko veći igrači su slomili zube na long-haul.
3. Može li ova linija uopće preživjeti konkurenciju koja ima daleko manje troškove identične linije (što sam napisao i gore). Profitabilna sigurno neće biti, no hoće li jesti proračunskog novca koliko si Srbija može dozvoliti?
Ja kao zrakoplovni entuzijast sam oduševljen nad ovom linijom i ako cijena ostane i blizu ovoj budite sigurni da sam jedan od prvih putnika, kao što Air Serbiju koristim i na drugim linijama.
Upravo stoga ovaj vaš komentar niti jest realan niti je korektan. A još manje mi je jasno kakve veze ima Vlada hrvatske i premijer sa ovom temom?
Purger,
DeleteA što mislite o jednom posve neuobičajenom pristupu - da pričekamo da linija krene i provjerimo joj učinak tijekom nekoliko mjeseci, pa da onda postavljamo pitanja na koja čemo čak i moči odgovoriti bez kristalne kugle?
Anonymous 5:13, I agree with you 100%.Pruger I have to say that Nenad was right when talking about lots of negativity coming from your comments. We already heard from Serbian government that JFK is not expecting to make money right away, however they have to start somewhere, since the oil price is super low and leasing aircraft is more affordable then ever before why not get into the market now and then spread your wings later on if sales are going well? If is not working well they can return the AC back to Etihad or JetAirways anytime. BTW, there is huge interest in cargo operations from BEG to USA, I can ensure you that just the cargo is going to cover 30% of operational cost from next year.
Delete"BTW, there is huge interest in cargo operations from BEG to USA, I can ensure you that just the cargo is going to cover 30% of operational cost from next year."
DeletePlease tell me you're joking... huge interest? From the USA?
"I can ensure you that just the cargo is going to cover 30% of operational cost from next year."
DeleteLol, this stats came from his ...!
I guess some people are really not aware of the situation
Suve sljivense na tone izvoze, neki delovi za oruzije , rakija i razne ostale stvari Kargo ce uvek biti pun mogu samo da zamislim koliki ce rasg biti.
DeleteI Slazem se sa Nenadom i Hot Lane.
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The demand for cargo exists. I am not an expert in terms of how much cost it could cover but it can earn some decent money. It is of course far from being enough to fill one full cargo flight but I am sure the cargo area of that A332 will be nicely packed on each flight.
DeleteCargo is there but how competitive will JU be? Our company sent some goods from AMS to BEG, the box was two kilos and JU charged us €220. I am sorry but that seems a bit too much me.
DeleteNemjee €220 for 2kg? Holy Sh*t! Try DHL next time. Or find someone in the plane willing to carry it.
DeleteI import to Canada from Serbia over 3 metric tonnes of goods per year. I usually use Swiss/Lufthansa, because they are the cheapest and very reliable. So I am looking forward to direct BEG-YYZ flights. But will only use ASL cargo if they are cheaper than competition.
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DeleteYup, pretty crazy. We used DHL to move some goods from the UK to BEG and they charged us €320 for about 250 kilos.
Same with Lufthansa, it was about 1,200 kilos from MUC to BEG and it was around €700.
I remember a few years ago we used to move quite a few machines from LCA to BEG and each one was between 40 and 70 kilos and Jat never charged us more than €500 for it.
Unfortunately a passengers couldn't carry it as it was a spare part for a medical machine.
No I am not joking at all, just the zastava oruzje is looking in a multimillion deal with a company in Huston and they are super excited about direct flights as previous deals required way too much paperwork since everything had to go via Greece and Montenegro. Serbia exports lots of fresh food to USA (cheese and milk products) which requires fast transport.
DeleteOdlicne vesti za ASL kao sto sam rekao da ce cena biti odlicna i jos ce stvari biti popravljeno .
ReplyDeleteOvo je dobro i za Regionalnu mrezu linija ASL gde ce sad moci da se salje RJ ako ga bude bilo.
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sad je momenat za jeftinu kupovinu C serije i puni ekskluzivitet u koriscenju/odrzavanju ovih aviona u regionu
DeleteJeste jeftino trenuto ali se ne zna jos kakav je avion i bilo bi kasno dok bi isporucili zato ja mislim da je trenutno bolja opcija Embraer.
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395€ Sep 1-19. Holly cow! If only they would consider starting Orlando, but even now Disneyland was never so much closer to us!
ReplyDeleteOni ne misle da ovi letovi idu za stalno. Da misle narucili bi nove avione kao sto su uradili za male erbas avione. Sve dok je na lizing to je samo privremeno.
ReplyDelete...svi avioni se uzimaju na leasing pa i ti "mali" sto ih spominjes ;)
DeleteSto su onda 3 meseca posle osnivanja narucili 10 neo aviona ako je bolje na lizing ;)
Delete..prijatelju, svi danas uzimaju avione na leasing..
Delete...prijatelju znaci kazes da se Air Serbija zeznula sto je u nov 2013 narucila 10 neo aviona? I da se Etihad zeznuo sto je tada narucio skoro 200 aviona? Nije problem sa lizingom na odredjeno vreme ali je ozbiljan znak kad kupe 10 malih aviona jer ce im sigurno trebati ali nisu ni tada ni bilo kad od tada narucili sirokotrupne avione jer nisu sigurni da li ce im garantovano trebati na duze vreme. Za evropske i regionalne letove su "ozenjeni" a preko okeanski su samo "devojka za provod". Da su narucili znali bi da je ozbiljno i da hoce da se "ozene".
Delete... prijatelju, nije ASL narucila 10 A320NEO nego Etihad a ASL ce ih lizovati od njega. U ovom momentu nema apsolutno nikakve potrebe da ASL kupuje A330 kad moze da ih iznajmi od partnera.
DeleteEY converted the old JAT Airbus order of 8 A319's to 10 A320 neo. Remember, Airbus was preparing a legal case with Serbia, that is JAT for the failure to fulfill the agreement. A deposit of USD$25,5 million was payed for the aircraft, yet the rest not payed for. I think EY renegotiated the order, bulked it together with their orders and brought down the large price JAT, that is Serbia (tax payers) were to purchase them for.
DeleteHad Airbus taken Serbia to court for the unfulfilment of the A319 order, Serbia would have lost. Now in 2 years time we will have brand new A320 neo ac.
There would be no legal case against Serbia. The EU would just force the government to go through with the deal...
DeleteBlago vama. Iz USA je karta $1299, tako da ce pare praviti na nama.
ReplyDelete$624.70 for return on 23rd june!!!!! VERY CHEAP!!! and one way back from new york to belgrade is $291.10 then again they will bleed loads of money if the Load factor is not higher then 90%
ReplyDeleteDon't forget this is just a promotional fare. Not logical to expect all seats will have the same price.
DeleteAdmin,
ReplyDeleteToday you can clearly see who is here to discuss aviation matters and who is here simply and purely to push their political agenda. You can very clearly tell posters who are unable to write a single word about aviation (praise or criticize, doesn't matter) and can only fire political salvos.
Since this is not a political blog, I would recommend that your restrict these political activists from the comment section the same way you restrict chauvinists, racists and swearers. You should not let them turn your blog into their political battleground.
Please read news published on this respectable aviation news site on October 22, 2013. Let's not try to censor historical facts.
DeleteWell just tried looking from JFK-Beg return from Jul 4 to Jul 30.ASL site is showing that it would cost me 1218.64 euros for return. Too expensive.
ReplyDeleteIs it a direct flight or via AB?
DeleteIt was direct wit ASL
DeleteThanks but maybe they haven't loaded their regular fares, I am sure they are not going to keep them that high.
DeleteI'm looking the same dates on Expedia.com. JU cheapest with $1,180 then LH $1,235
DeleteHigh season. Not realistic to expect so cheap fares such are 399EUR
DeleteForgot to mention it was on the ASL site
ReplyDeleteCongrats! Good luck Air Serbia with the new flights! Hope to go with them to the USA. The EX-YU Aviation rocks!
ReplyDeleteChestito ASL i Belgrad! It is an ex-Yu portal but that doesn't mean that the rest of the region is not following the news ;) The A330 will be grand! The connections are definitely good and mostly inline with the rest of the destinations. Well done! Specialen pozdrav ot SOF/VAR ;)
ReplyDeleteJFK - BEG , roundtrip (07/21-08/11):
ReplyDeleteAeroflot - $836
Turkish - $1188
Austrian - $1194
Air Serbia - $1298
How about connecting flights. Let's take a look at JFK-SOF for the same period of time:
Aeroflot: $861
Turkish: $953
Air France: $964
Air Italia: $964
Air Serbia: $1216 (hmm cheaper than direct to BEG)
I am happy to see Air Serbia flying to the US, but for a family of four these prices make quite a difference.
Good luck with these prices.
Just fly whoever you wish and don't waste your time bashing those who are more expensive than you would like them to be.
DeleteBashing? You call a rational comparison (with actual numbers obtained from kayak.com) a bashing? This is a blog post and I simply commented on the subject. There was a point in my comment. Too bad you cannot see it (Maybe if you take your pink glasses off, you could see it).
Delete+1 Anon at 5.17
DeleteYou both know damn well there is absolutely no point in singling out one roundtrip and presenting it as the eternal price indicator for this route (be it $400 or $1400).
DeleteFor some passengers on some dates it will be a bargain. For some other, on other dates, it will be expensive. Just as the case is with any goddamn carrier out there.
Like I said, you know this very well. But you still choose to play manipulative.
Buying a ticket with any airline is not the same as buying a bus ticket where the price is the same. Price changes as per supply and demand. Tomorrow if you check for the same dates all of your options will be different fares.
DeleteI agree that for a family of four this price difference is significant. At the same time there is the convenience factor of a non-stop flight and flying via Moscow or Istanbul is a serious detour. You will be detouring by at least 5 hours via Moscow and by at least 3-4 hours via Istanbul, likely more. I recently missed a connection in Istanbul (TK fault) and had to wait for 12 hours for the next flight to BEG. Think about 12 hours of two screaming children in IST (don't know how old yours are but many people's will be that age) and suddenly that nonstop to BEG may look more reasonable. Altogether these nonstop flights will rarely -- if ever -- be the cheapest option. Nonstop flights are almost never the cheapest. Some people don't mind 5 hours detour plus "hell potential" and that is perfectly fine -- an airline does not have to win everyone's business to succeed. On the other hand they DO need to win the business of sufficiently many people to succeed. That's why they need to arrange interline on the U.S. side and good connections on the BEG side.
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DeleteFinally a good and rational reply. Thanks for that. You have a point and you are absolutely right.
The problem I see here is that prices are not competitive for a product that is not even offered.
Let me give you an analogy. When a company offers a new and unknown product on the market they can price it aggressively in order to attract interest. For example, a new smart phone device is offered from an unknown company. What would be the best way to attract interest and have the market brag about it. Be aggressive. Of course if an established maker, such as Apple, offers a product, the price point is irrelevant since they have an established consumer base. JU is not Apple in the airline industry.
I am not in the airline industry. I am looking into these things from a consumer perspective. I remember when Turkish started their flights to the US. Their product was priced so aggressively that it was very competitive. People started talking about it and Turkish relatively easily built a consumer base. This allowed them to expand their network to other US Cities. If this doesn't happen, it will be very challenging for JU to expand their network in the US.
As a father of two, I know what you meant with kids crying in the airport if you are delayed for hours. But, if that allows me to save $1500 that I can use elsewhere (additional trips in Europe), it may be worth the effort :-). After all it may take few bucks to buy the kids a toy or too and keep them happy. I am pretty sure many parents out there have the same opinion.
When I do business travel (and I do it quite a bit of it), I don't care that much about the price as I care about the product and convenience. Missing a flight in Belgrade won't be the same experience with missing a flight in Vienna, for example. Possibility to get to the destination using another flight is one differentiator.
Yes, your point about the convenience of a direct flight is valid. But, that's not the only parameter the customers (no business) look at. As far as the business customers (going from NY to BEG as final destination), I am not sure if JU will have enough of them on daily basis.
So, it will be a bumpy road for JU if they really keep this strategy.
This is for anon at 6:05PM yesterday. You are entering a "religious" debate that I don't want to be part of. I did a matrix search and results were the same.
@JATBEGMEL, I completely agree that demand drives the price. But, what demand are we talking about here? JU just started selling their product. ;-) and by the way the demand will drive the prices up of the competition as well.
Air Serbia seems competitive. They will offer better service over old Austrians 767s. TK is cheaper because passing via IST is a mess these days.
ReplyDeleteI flew on OS' B763 two months ago and the seats were actually quite comfortable. The only issue I had with them was the rather tight legroom. They've refurbished their cabins some time ago so maybe you are referring to the old ones?
DeleteOS je promenio kabine na svim sirokotrupcima pre 1 godine koliko ja znam.
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Opet ne menja cinjenicu da su to 26 godina stari avioni od Austriana.
DeleteДа будем искрен, мени је највише сметала уска кабина, некако је била клаустрофобична. Мислим да је то највећа предност коју ЈУ има у поређењу са Остријаном... то и посада.
DeleteSta ja mogu sto pojedini Avioni imaju po 26 godina nisam ja gazda OS .
DeleteEvo gde je ASL u plusu jos:
Cena , kabina na svim letovima u OS je stvarno uska za nekoga ko je skoro 2 m kao ja , Ketering naravno , cini mi se cak i bolja C klasa i jeftni troskovi posade i Aerodroma .
Plusevi OS
Vise letova po regionu nego ASL plus Ukrajina Moldavija i dosta destinacija u Rumuniji i Bugarskoj .
Biranje dali se leti na EWR ili JFK, i jednostavno vise konekcija.
Mislim da su jednaki u sansama .
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По мени највећи минус је њихова посада. Летим са њима већ сигурно 20 година и не сећам се једног пута да је посада била фина и пријатна. Увек су бесни, арогантни и хладни.
DeleteРуку на срце кетеринг им је феноменалан и мислим да су чак добијали неке награде.
Ер Србија има феноменалну и крајње пријатну посаду, нису навалентни и немају ону извештачену финоћу као Етихад, Емирати или Катар.
Da vecina je jako arogantna to mi isto kazu i drugovi koji su Piloti .
DeleteASL ima bolju posadu i to ce joj dosta pomoci na tim letovima.
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Mislio sam da nisam imao sreće sa OS crew, jer jednom sam išao na long haul sa njima i zarekao se nikada više... ali izgleda, eto, da je to pravilo. Ono što me posebno iznerviralo jeste da taj odnos imaju prema svima sa istoka - Mađarska, Srbija, Rumunija, Hrvatska, svejedno.
DeleteČak mi je i SU u doba Tupoljeva za Beograd bio bolja opcija od OS.
Nisu samo prema istoku takvi nego i kad se leti VIE-INN sto treba da porade na tome .
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Мислим да је генерално тако код Остријана... Лично, имао сам најбоља искуства са Луфтхансом. Увек су били фини, уљудни и оно што волим је да се не смеју ако не морају. Ништа горе него када видиш да је то гостопримство форсирано.
DeleteDa prica se kako ce otkazati i DEL .
DeleteDa LX i LH imaju prijatnije osoblje sto mi je nekako cudno.
Ali zanimljvo mi je kako na pojedinom Portalima u Austriji kad su Objavili ovu vest mnogi su napisalu email ASL sto ne moze da se kupi karta VIE-BEG-JFK-BEG sto je odlicno znaci da ima i zaintresovanih u VIE.
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Mislio sam prema putnicima sa istoka, onako su se vidljivo drugačije ponašali, to mi je bilo gadno, rasistički skoro... Dok su u LH uvek bili strogo profesionalni, osmeh nije baš jeftin, ali nikada neprijatni.
DeleteIts funny how people immediately complain about the price ( I am not even talking about Air Serbia now). If you are buying a ticket for the summer season you pretty much have to be hunting for a good price from any company not just do a one or two searches and buy something. Sometimes you can find cheaper tickets in May then now so dont rush. Obviously a price of 1200-1300 US dollars are too high, but I can guarantee you can get for half price of that in peak months of July and August if you follow my advice which is not to rush. Last year I bought a ticket with Jet Airways via BRU for like 750 CAD in June which at that time was 650-700 USD (dont know exactly since CAD at that time was not low as now) from YYZ which is most of the time more expensive than NYC airports.
ReplyDeleteTo add, I am sure you are aware that tickets from BEG to N.America are way cheaper than vice versa so no need to say how now you can buy tickets for 600 CAD.
Deletewhat a proud and beautiful day today. JU 500/501 after 24 years of Absence back in US airspace again
ReplyDeleteThis is fantastic News. ex YU finally linked with the States again. All the best from Zurich
your JU520 buddy
Ex yu admin will you be one of the passengers on the inaugural flight?
ReplyDelete...and the rest new destinations are... ?
ReplyDeleteCAI, LED, & MUC.
Deleteconfirmed.
@ Anon February 18, 2016 at 9:59 PM
Deletestarting from when and how many frequencies?
Not true. None of the new destinations are those.
DeleteEasy for you to just say "not true" and yet you offer no counter informations. I know what I am talkin about. You will soon see. Announcement coming soon.
Delete@10:41 and when you say 'confirmed' we just blindly need to believe you...? Cmon...
DeleteI justed checked Lju fares - you can buy them for around 499 EUR (return) which is great, but connections are terrible (except friday - monday/tuesday), so I think ASL can forget bussines travellers from Lju... probably zag is simmilar story, except zag is 1,5 h closer to beg, so direct drive to beg is more plausable.
ReplyDeletearent ZAG and LJU double daily during summer so connections should be smooth no matter what?
DeleteYea but they are in the other wave, same as JFK.
DeleteThe wave in which is LJU and ZAG (west/north) will work 2 x per week BEG-JFK and 3 x per week JFK-BEG.
DeleteThe other wave (east/south ie: SJJ, TIV, SVO etc) works 3 x per week BEG-JFK, that is 2 x per week JFK-BEG.
Business pax will most likely be BEG/JFK O&D pax. 18 seats is a small cabin for such distance. BEG-AUH already has this considering the O&D numbers are significantly less than BEG-JFK.
U opisu kabine ne vidim Wi-Fi ni servis za.mobilni.telefon. Admin, da li je to omaška ili stvarno neće imati wifi?
ReplyDeleteThe aircraft has wifi installed.
DeleteAircraft is A6-EYC and you can search info on google.
Cabin will be refitted for JU.
Zasto je datum pomeren za 23?
ReplyDeleteNa koji JFK terminal ide Air Serbia?
ReplyDeleteAko ne 4 onda 8, najverovatnije
DeleteAir Canada does not fly to terminator 3.
DeleteAC won't be flying to JFK at all! :O
DeleteTerminal 4
DeleteThat's what I meant to say. So poor potential conections to Canada.
ReplyDeletewell done air serbia!best wishes from greece.I hope i can travel with you to my relatives in brooklyn in september if the price is better than delta or united.Good luck
ReplyDeleteI was positive that certain trigger-happy public figure at the event would traditionally let the cat out of the bag and announce something like a new destination for 2nd A330, but alas! Just the fact no exclusive info was leaked when cameras were rolling is a pretty big deviation from the established norm. I thought PEK is a done deal based on previous outbursts, but now I am thinking there might be an even bigger surprise for the 2nd A330, like YYZ for 2017 instead of the recently outlined 2-3 years delay.
ReplyDeleteFrom today's article, ASL CEO: "Our flight schedule has been carefully designed to offer guests ... great onward connectivity upon reaching New York to popular cities such as Chicago"
ReplyDeleteAwesome, right? I went to book BEG-ORD on Air Serbia site to no avail. All offered BEG-ORD connections are through Air Berlin at TXL, not what CEO described through JFK. We know codeshare will not happen, but is there at least an interline from JFK onwards in the works?
Good point. How come you say codeshare will not happen though?
DeleteAlso, does anybody know if online seat assignment is available when purchasing tickets with Air Serbia JFK - BEG or no?
Site says online seat assignment is available. Not sure if there's an extra charge for exit row seats, and if upgrade to business class is offered post purchase?
Delete"Our flight schedule has been carefully designed to offer guests..."
DeleteI cringe every time I hear them call their passengers "guests"... Ugh
disbelieving how people can react such Anon 9:03 AM!?.
DeleteDragi moj Anon. Mr. Kondic nije
jedini koji putnike Er Srbije naziva gostima. To se radi u svetu putnickog vazduhoplovstva, duze vreme. Sa Vasim ''ugh'' niste oplemenili percepciju. Pokazujete netrpeljivost. Bio sam putnik na Er Srbiji. Posada je nas, pa i moju malenkost tretirala kao svoje goste, a ne putnike. Dali ste nekad bili na slavi kod nekog?. Slicno tome se odnosi posada u avio kompanijama koje drze do sebe. Sigurno Er Srbija jeste jedna od tih. Tvrdim sa mojim letovima sa oko blizu 70 avio kompanija, i preko
4000 sati leta kao putnik preko svih kontinenata. U zadnjih pola veka. Vi Anon, moguce je imate vece iskustvo, znate vise o letenju. To je dobro. Ali nije dobro da ste frustuirani. Odmorite se malo. Umanjite ''letove''. Bice Vam bolje.
Iskreni pozdrav, ✈Radovan✈
LYKV✈SYD.
I did not say that ASL does not have excellent on-board service, because it does. It's just that corporate speak is one of my biggest pet peeves. ASL (or anyone else's) passengers are exactly that - paying passengers, customers etc. They are certainly not guests as they are neither using the services for free nor are they technically "staying" with ASL (like they would in a hotel for example) but merely using a transport service, "riding" their planes if you will. So yes, while ASL generally has good service, I stand by my opinion that calling your passengers 'guests' is cringeworthy.
DeleteInace zaista nemam nikakvu "netrpeljivost" prema Er Srbiji, koristim njihove usluge kada mi odgovara i kada mogu da priustim i preferiram ih u odnosu na sve ostale kompanije kojima sam leteo iz Beograda.
DeleteAnon 2:47 PM. Vi znate da u poslovnoj klasi na duzim linijama se sedista repozicioniraju u krevete. Posluga je slicna hotelskoj. Putujem u toj klasi povremeno. Za prvu klasu da ne spominjem. Skuplji je let od najskuplih hotela. Kad je gost u hotelu, kako nebih bio gost u letecem hotelu, odnosno avionu. Nisu svi avioni opremljeni na najvisem nivou. Nisu ni svi hoteli koji se nazivaju hoteli. Ako covek plati desetak i vise hiljada dolara za let, on jeste gost u vecem broju avio kompanija. Navodim samo dve od mnogih. To je QANTAS iz Australije i AIR SERBIA. Sto se tice Vaseg odnosa prema pojedincima iz korporativne uprave, taj stav ne delim. Naprotiv!✈. Svako Vam dobro Nepoznati ''putnice''✈.
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Bravo Srbija!
ReplyDeleteMnogo, mnogo rada, promena, harmonije medju zaposljenim. Empatije prema ljudima na aerodromima. U avionima, Svuda.
DeleteYES AIR SERBIA, doing exactly that. People keep flag up.
BRAVO AIR SERBIA✈✈✈
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odlicna vest, dosta se smucamo po raznim aerodrmima zbog tranzita, nadam se da karte nece da poskupe.
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