Adria Airways to expand fleet


Adria Airways plans to add two Bombardier CRJ900 aircraft to its fleet, the "Uporabna Stran" portal reports. The aircraft are expected to commence operations on Adria's behalf during the first half of the year. Two CRJ900s, one previously operated by SAS Scandinavian Airlines, and the other by Iberia Regional (Air Nostrum), have been parked at Ljubljana Jože Pučnik Airport for some time and are likely to be destined for Adria. The aircraft are believed to be owned by Regional One, which acts as Adria's existing lessor. The Slovenian carrier has recently been advertising job openings for pilots and first officers on the aircraft type. The airline presently operates seven CRJ900s, three CRJ700s and three Airbus A319s. One of its CRJ700s is currently being wet-leased to Luxembourg's Luxair.

Adria plans to expand its operations this summer by introducing six new routes out of Ljubljana and boosting frequencies to seven destinations, including Copenhagen, Paris, Prague, Podgorica, Skopje, Tirana and Warsaw. Much of its planned growth has been based on the usage of Saab 2000 turboprop aircraft, operated by its subsidiary Adria Airways Switzerland (also known as Darwin Airline). However, the regional carrier declared bankruptcy last month, which is a subject of an ongoing probe by Swiss authorities. The aircraft have been grounded ever since with liquidators planning to sell them following interest from a leasing company. "Austrian Aviation" reported yesterday that Adria has invited former Darwin cabin crew to apply for jobs through Swiss-based aviation employment agency Growing.Aero, who will then be assigned onto Adria-operated flights from places such as Geneva, Milan and Trieste on the Saab 2000s. This is despite the fact that the airline does not maintain operations to any of the three cities, although will commence services to Geneva in March.

The Slovenian carrier has been steadily expanding its fleet over the years, adding its seventh CRJ900 in 2017. As a result, the airline has been able to venture into the lucrative ACMI (aircraft, crew, maintenance and insurance lease) business and has operated flights on behalf of Eurowings, Swiss International Air Lines and Austrian Airlines, to name a few. Adria recently extended the leasing terms of its existing fleet. Therefore, one of its Airbus A319 jets is now on lease until 2021, while the other two until 2024. Four of its CRJ900s will remain with the airline until at least 2022, while the other two are on lease until 2026 and 2027 respectively. Finally, the lease of three CRJ700s has been extended until December 2019.

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  1. Anonymous09:03

    So they will have a fleet of 15 planes. I assume they will be leasing out some of them this summer like last year.

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    1. Anonymous09:06

      They will for sure. That's when most airlines need the extra capacity. Last summer they leased to Swiss and Austrian I think.

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    2. Anonymous09:08

      Do we know how long the CR7 is being leased to Luxair? They painted it in their full livery
      http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/photos/S5AAZ.jpg

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    3. Anonymous09:17

      Maybe they lease some planes to Croatia Airlines.

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    4. Anonymous09:24

      Maybe one, but OU will need 3 in summer - actually with more than 90 seats, rather around 120-150 seaters (E95 perhaps?)

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    5. Anonymous09:38

      Adria was also relying on the Saabs to wetlease some of them over summer.

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    6. Anonymous09:39

      9.08 luxair Will also fly in the summer on this route, probably in the summer too.

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    7. Anonymous09:41

      I presumed it will be a longer term lease since they painted it in their livery.

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    8. Anonymous11:58

      Anonymous 9:08
      The plane is on wet lease to Lux Air until 23rd March 2018

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    9. Anonymous19:19

      Austrian will also lease at least one of JPs CRJ9.

      Feb. 28 - Mar. 30: OS727/728 (VIE-TGD) operated by JP CRJ9
      Apr. 03: OS683/684 (VIE-ZAG) operated by JP CRJ9

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    10. Anonymous19:19

      Austrian will also lease at least one of JPs CRJ9.

      Feb. 28 - Mar. 30: OS727/728 (VIE-TGD) operated by JP CRJ9
      Apr. 03: OS683/684 (VIE-ZAG) operated by JP CRJ9

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    11. Anonymous00:08

      Adria CR7 operates SCN-TXL for Luxair also in STT 2018

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    12. Anonymous09:01

      Great that Adria got the contract extended, but I am surprised that Luxair simply doesn't get another Q400 of their own. There must be aircraft available in the second-hand market, right?

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    13. Anonymous22:32

      Q400 is not the right plane for the business; reliability and costs.

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  2. Anonymous09:03

    Now we know that the new routes will go ahead as planned.

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    1. Anonymous09:25

      Not if they plan on wet leasing the new planes in summer, which would probably be more lucrative than launching completely new routes.

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  3. Anonymous09:04

    Good news for Adria.

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  4. Anonymous09:05

    I know Saabs are generally unpopular with people but I think they were good for Adria. It gave them the chance to test certain routes with small capacity and less risk.

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    1. Anonymous09:27

      The S20 is rather cool and stylish I must say, better than AT4 and F50 for sure. Also better than the DH3.

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    2. Anonymous09:30

      Not only that but the Darwin saabs looked very good inside with nice leather seats. I think they were completely refurbished when Etihad took over some years ago.

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    3. Anonymous10:29

      Adria needs a plane between the Bombardier and Airbus. The Airbus is too large for pretty much anything other than charters.

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    4. Anonymous10:35

      CRJ1000 perhaps.

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    5. Anonymous11:24

      Well in the past they used to have A320 in their fleet and it was OK for them. I think the A319 are also highly usable for them. And I would not be surprised if they added another one ore two in their fleet in the future (in 2 or 3 years).

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    6. Anonymous13:39

      A320s were OK how? Is this based on the massive profit Adria posted when they were operating A320 or something else?

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    7. Anonymous14:03

      This this is based on a fact that they were operating A320s for decades. I do not believe that they would have done so if these airplanes were not OK for them.

      Haplek

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    8. Anonymous17:08

      Sure, but they were tied down (as they still are) with leasing contracts, so dropping these aircraft might be more expensive than keeping them. Read news from couple of years ago how they were looking for all available options to get rid of the A319s and failed.

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    9. Anonymous17:23

      When you go to read old articles you will also see that they were even considering A321 so...
      Regardless to bad leasing contracts, I have gotten an information that their A319 are the best for operations because of their capacity. However having an only CRJ fleet also has its pros.

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    10. Anonymous14:18

      JP used their A320 for charters at the summer. And now they are using A319 for charters in summer season. But for the winter season they cannot get enough passengers to cover the every day routes; only Frankfurt route can be success. So they have Airbus fleet only for charters in the summer.
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    11. JU520 BEGLAX17:16

      A320 JP were purchased at Yugoslavia times, there they made absolutely sense. Later on they proved to be too large for the small SLO market. Having an aircraft just to cover Summer Charters makes no sense

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  5. Anonymous09:07

    One of these planes has been sitting at LJU for 2 months.

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  6. Anonymous09:09

    This whole situation with Darwin is turning out into a real mess.

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  7. JU520 BEGLAX09:09

    Adria is a mistery... some good news are superseded with bad ones. But hope dies last...

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  8. Anonymous09:11

    One has to wonder with what money are they leasing all this extra capacity in the last few years.

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      They are also currently wet leasing an F100 and a B737 for charters from Kosovo and Albania. The F100 is because they can't use the Saabs.

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    2. Anonymous09:19

      Their finances must have improved.

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    3. Anonymous00:59

      I'm sure their finances improved. The prosecutor in Bellinzona is searching for the 12 millions which were gone from Darwin's account.

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  9. Anonymous09:15

    It's always good to see an airline expanding its fleet.

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  10. Anonymous09:16

    Maybe they are planning to establish a new airline in Lugano which will fly to Trieste, Milan and Geneva.

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    1. Anonymous09:29

      LOL! Lugano - MXP would be a looooong flight!

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    2. Anonymous09:32

      Adria should apply for a Swiss AOC and set up its own airline in Switzerland?

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    3. Anonymous09:47

      Many Darwin pilots have already rejected this offer.

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    4. Anonymous10:27

      They will do what Lufthansa tells them to do. 4K is a Lufthansa proxy.

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    5. Anonymous12:11

      If they would be at any smell of Lufthansa, they would not be under the criminal investigation and 250 people sent to unemployment, but would be flying for Swiss.

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  11. Anonymous09:20

    Makes sense now why they were hiring so many extra CRJ pilots.

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    1. Anonymous01:05

      Will these pilots also get Growing contracts?

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  12. Anonymous09:25

    It will be interesting to see how their new routes perform.

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    1. Anonymous09:33

      I think all of them are smart choices. The only one I'm not sure of is Geneva.

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  13. Anonymous09:28

    Weren't there rumors they would lease 3 CRJs this summer?

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    1. Anonymous09:45

      Maybe they will. For now 2 are confirmed.

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    2. Anonymous15:39

      The third is S5-AFA which was used as a replacement acft until now.

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    3. Anonymous02:15

      But S5-AFA is being used to often so its hard to say replacement acft

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  14. Bravo Slovenia :D

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  15. Anonymous09:36

    Good news coming from Adria lately.

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  16. Anonymous09:39

    I'm pretty sure Adria will eventually take the Saabs and register them in Slovenia.

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    1. Anonymous09:44

      There's a criminal investigation going on in Switzerland regarding the fraudulent bankruptcy of Darwin.

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    2. Anonymous09:52

      So shady what they have done with Darwin.

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    3. Anonymous10:01

      This is not going to end well.

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    4. Anonymous10:04

      I think Adria could have done quite a few good things for itself by developing Darwin.

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    5. Anonymous10:15

      Speaking of the Darwin Saabs 4 of them are parked at LJU as seen here
      http://www.fraport-slovenija.si/en/interactive-airport/web-cam/

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  17. Anonymous09:42

    Great news Adria! Congratulations.

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  18. Either they performing utterly remarkable or they are total mess. Few days ago they were using F100 from Trade Air. Still can not figure out how is this cheaper instead of using their own metal.

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    1. Anonymous09:49

      They don't have enough metal with the schedule they put out this winter. They find themselves doing too much at the same time. Too many weekly flights, too few aircraft.

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    2. Anonymous09:51

      In that case you don't lease out your own planes to other airlines.

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    3. Anonymous09:54

      Maybe they calculated that they would make a profit if they leased out the CRJ700 and took the F100. Remember winter is really always problematic with Adria regarding liquidity.

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    4. Anonymous09:56

      One thing is for sure and that is that they did not expect that the Saabs would be grounded this winter.

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    5. Anonymous10:26

      I'm just waiting to see what 4Ks end game is here.

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  19. Anonymous09:51

    Purger wrote excellent article about this some one and half month ago with information about lease of two extra CRJ. Also he mention there that owner of this Growing is one of managers in Adria (and in same time was in Darwin), and many more information about back of those deals.

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    1. Anonymous12:14

      What he wrote in that article is a BS, based on the roomors not facts.

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  20. Anonymous09:57

    With wich plane will then flihgt to brac?

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    1. Anonymous10:00

      Saab 2000 is still in the system. All the new routes are supposed to fly with the Saabs. The qustion is will Adria actually have the Saabs in the fleet.

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    2. Anonymous13:41

      Well it definitely won't be CRJ900.

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    3. Anonymous13:59

      So what will they do if they can't get the Saabs?

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    4. Anonymous17:10

      Cancelling some flights would probably be the cheapest option. Can't see them having enough profit margin to have wet leased aircraft flying their routes for the entire season.

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  21. Anonymous10:02

    Say what you will about 4K and Adria but they have managed to grow the airline year after year. Opened new routes, took in new planes and achieved profitability.

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    1. Anonymous10:16

      +1
      I'm really impressed how Adria has been handling itself lately.

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    2. Anonymous10:18

      I'm not. They sold their brand name just to show a profit. I wouldn't call that the pinnacle of good business.

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    3. Anonymous10:21

      I agree with anon 10.02. Just remember what the news was like coming from Adria in the last 3-4 years. The airline has obviously turned a corner.

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    4. Anonymous10:23

      At the end of the day they expanded the fleet, increased frequencies, introduced new routes, decreased losses ... Not bad for 2 years.

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    5. Anonymous10:28

      Anin 1023

      They did the same with Darwin - healthy finances, new business (wet lease to Adria) - and then a sudden bankruptcy and a financial hole without the bottom in sight.

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    6. Anonymous10:51

      ^ I hope the same fate doesn't await Adria.

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    7. Anonymous11:23

      I wouldn't say they are doing a great job but I would neither say they are worse than their predecessors.

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    8. Anonymous17:11

      The status quo continues. But without government pockets I doubt it can continue for much longer.

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    9. Anonymous00:40

      They were able to dive Darwin in 4 months. Could be they need about 4 years for Adria.

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  22. Anonymous10:09

    Can someone tell me does Adria still use the grey interior on their planes or have they changed to blue since I have flown with them a couple of time and all have been blue whereas I know they have used grey before. Just wondering.

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    1. Anonymous10:19

      Combination of both. Some of the planes they leased came with blue seats (I think those are the ones that were supposed to be delivered to Iraqi Airways).

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    2. Anonymous10:36

      ok, thank you

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    3. JU520 BEGLAX10:51

      AAV and AAU have blue leather seats
      Domt about the CR9 leased in 2017 and the new ex IB and SK

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    4. Anonymous09:38

      I don't know, but I am guessing that they will refresh the interior of the new aircraft. SAS used to operate with 88 seats and Air Nostrum with 90, so it would make sense for Adria to standardise the two new CR9s.

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  23. Anonymous10:28

    Wet leasing seems to have become their most lucrative business.

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    1. Anonymous12:05

      It's a good idea to get extra cash.

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  24. Anonymous10:38

    Super glad for JP.

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  25. Anonymous10:41

    If you look closely, they have renegotiated their leasing contracts and extended them for the next 5 years approximately. Since they are taking on new planes it means they will continue to expand their network since these planes won't be used as replacements.

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    1. Anonymous10:42

      Or will primarily be wet leased on to others.

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    2. Anonymous10:48

      They are taking on more planes to allocate to their planned schedule for next summer which is currently planned to be operated with more aircraft than they actually have in their fleet.

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    3. Anonymous09:33

      I bet that's why they were talking about the Sukhoi Superjet - just to put pressure on the leasing companies when renewing leases for the CRJs.

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  26. Anonymous10:50

    They seem to be expanding a lot in LJU. This is a positive strategy because they are reducing ops in other countries and expanding in LJU, which is very good for Slovenia and taxpayers who have invested a lot in the airline before it was sold.

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    1. Anonymous11:40

      Adria is on its way to recovery and is looking more and more as serious player in ex-Yu (again).

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    2. Anonymous14:20

      To i nije bas neki pretjerano zahtjevan pothvat.

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  27. Anonymous10:56

    Anyone know how many passengers they handled last year? I assume they had a big increase in numbers.

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    1. Anonymous11:01

      They handled 1 million passengers at the start of December.

      http://www.exyuaviation.com/2017/12/adria-airways-handles-millionth.html

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    2. Anonymous11:07

      Nice thanks!

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    3. Anonymous00:25

      O yeah, that was the guy who got the little plastic toy! Jupi!

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  28. Anonymous11:03

    I will not be surprised if LJU overtakes ZAG by 2020. Terminal will be increased, JP expanding aggressively, Fraport investing in airport and new LCC destinations were launched by U2 and Windrose. If LJU becomes a W6 base then this will be great.

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    1. Anonymous11:28

      bogati

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    2. Anonymous11:45

      don't get ahead of yourself.
      Its not like Adria is addin A380 to its fleet.
      It will be adding 50 seat Saabs and 70 seat seat CRJs

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    3. Anonymous11:59

      And if you combine the whole fleet that makes 2 A320 capacity - if you think this is not enough, well sorry. Besides Slovenia is also a richer country and needs a larger airport.

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    4. JU520 BEGLAX12:01

      U already smoke in the morning, gosh.... :-)

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    5. Anonymous12:13

      Total number of new destinations so far IN 2018:

      BEG - 3
      ZAG - 3
      LJU - 6
      SKP - 1
      PRN - 3
      TGD - 8
      TIV - 3
      DBV - 13
      INI - 1

      -----
      Neighbours:

      TIA - 5
      OTP - 8
      SOF - 9 (+ 5 resumed)
      BUD - 7 (+ 4 resumed)

      Most likely strong performers in 2018:
      Ex-Yu: TGD, LJU & DBV
      Non Ex-Yu: SOF, BUD, OTP

      2018 will be a good year for all.

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    6. Anonymous14:14

      Za pocetak, neka dostigne DBV do 2020.
      I to bi bio doseg vrijedan divljenja.
      O ZAG ili SPU je jos rano mastati.
      BEG necu ni spominjati.
      On je kategoriju iznad.

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    7. PUY -13
      SPU -12

      So the most likely strong performer list has to be changed :)

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    8. Anonymous14:54

      DBV will surpass PUY and SPU, please accept it.

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    9. Anonymous15:13

      only when it happens

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    10. I thought more about the comparison to LJU and TGD

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    11. Anonymous15:33

      what about that comparison?

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  29. Anonymous11:04

    Adria will very soon have the biggest fleet in ex-Yu!

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    1. Anonymous11:15

      Air Serbia has more aircraft, even if you don't include the B737s flying for Aviolet.

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    2. Anonymous11:23

      Remember Croatia Airlines will also add 3 planes to their fleet this summer.

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    3. Anonymous11:35

      Adria has the youngest fleet in ex-Yu and they have added CRJ900s and 700s over the past two years.

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    4. Anonymous13:31

      If you counting number of planes then Adria will be very close to Air Serbia. But Air Serbia have much bigger capacity on it's planes than Adria.

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    5. Anonymous14:10

      Kao i obicno, dok se mjeraci bave mjerenjem...autobus pun Svedjanki prodje neopazeno

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  30. if these guys survive another 2 yrs i would be pleasantly surprised

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    1. Anonymous11:59

      Right on cue, Petar

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    2. Anonymous00:21

      Guys will survive but the airline not.

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  31. Anonymous12:07

    What is the financial result in 2017?

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    1. Anonymous12:16

      No one knows. They won't publish the results until September.

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    2. Anonymous12:34

      It will be interesting to see. For 2016 they attributed sale of CRJ200, engines and brand name to show a profit. We will see what they do for 2017.

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    3. Anonymous13:44

      Actually, we might see results sooner, even before summer.

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    4. Anonymous13:58

      Great. Hope so

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    5. Anonymous18:16

      Even more interesting will be JU's results for 2017 !

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    6. Anonymous18:53

      And OU which will have enormous profit this year :)

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    7. Anonymous20:32

      Of course when they sold their slots.

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    8. In the history of aviation airlines have been massive capital killers even before deregulation so I have no idea why some here are expecting to find with the financial results.

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  32. What will happen with SSJ100 order? Anyone?

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    1. Anonymous19:59

      I don’t think there was any real SSJ order

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    2. Anonymous20:31

      There was never an order and no one ever said there was an order. What was said by the CEO of the Sukhoi program was that Adria is about to order 12 Sukhois. Obviously something didn't work out during the talks or they decided not to order them.

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    3. Anonymous20:43

      They would have ordered the aircraft already, but the production line is so busy. SSJ being one of the best aircraft on the market, so everybody wants it.

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    4. Anonymous21:04

      Don't really see the point of your sarcasm. They were obviously in talks with them.

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    5. Anonymous00:18

      above your quote on "SSJ being one of the best aircraft on the market". Airplane is so good that Interjet grounds four out of their 22 SSJ's for spares to keep the fleet going.

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    6. Anonymous00:23

      He was being ironic...

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    7. Anonymous07:32

      I always found it hilarious how some people have a problem with flying on a Russian jet yet they have no problem flying on a Brazilian one. lol

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    8. Anonymous07:34

      SJJ promasaj i necete ga vidjati na svakom aerodromu.

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    9. Anonymous08:04

      Колико ја видим SN Brussels се нешто не жали чак су рекли да су јако задовољни са ваздухопловом. Да нису не би га користили све ово време... вероватно га не би ни изнајмљивали.

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    10. Anonymous13:29

      @Anonymous (7:32 AM): Is there a maintenance problem with the SSJ? Interjet and CityJet seem to have problems with their fleet.

      Mihael

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    11. Anonymous13:55

      Ne, nemam nikakvih problema letjeti ruskim avionom.
      Dapace, na njima sam letio cijeli svoj radni vijek te docekao mirovinu.
      No, u aspektu civilne avijacije, tu jos uvijek imaju puno toga za nauciti.

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    12. Anonymous14:32

      Yes, the problem of the sukhoi is that the parts of the plane are not cheap.

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  33. Thanks for all the answers folks!

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