The 2019 summer season begins on Sunday March 31 with Air Serbia set to make a number of network changes as it implements its largest single expansion since its relaunch in October 2013. The Serbian carrier will introduce nine new routes, seven of which will be year-round and two of which will be maintained seasonally. The new destinations will mostly see Air Serbia return to markets formerly operated by JAT Yugoslav Airlines - Barcelona, Cairo, Kiev, Madrid, Rijeka and Zadar - with Nice, Krasnodar and Helsinki having never been served from Belgrade by either Air Serbia or its predecessor. All of the new routes will be run twice per week with exception to the Finnish capital, Kiev and Krasnodar, which will operate three times per week.
The Serbian carrier will add an extra weekly flight onto seven routes. These include Copenhagen, Dubrovnik, Paris, Sofia, Stockholm, Tivat and Zagreb, while an additional two weekly services will be introduced to Zurich, when compared to the 2018 summer season. The airline will run double daily flights to the French capital, where it will compete against Air France and ASL Airlines France this summer. Furthermore, in a boost to its Scandinavian operations, both Copenhagen and Stockholm will be maintained on a daily basis. In addition, Tivat will be operated 22 times per week, Zagreb twelve, Sofia daily, while Zurich will be run up to nineteen times per week.
The airline plans to boost capacity on some routes as well. Three of its double daily flights to Vienna will be operated with the 144-seat Airbus A319 aircraft this summer instead of the seventy-seat ATR72 turboprop, while all six of its services to Split will be maintained with the A319 instead of the ATR. Air Serbia will run a significant number of charter flights this summer which will be performed by its dedicated leisure brand Aviolet, with almost 1.000 operations planned so far. On the other hand, the airline will also decrease frequencies on four routes by one weekly flight, in order to free up capacity for some of the abovementioned destinations. Athens, Milan, Skopje and St Petersburg will all have one flight per week less than last year. As a result, operations to the Greek capital (double daily), as well as Milan (daily), and St Petersburg (three weekly) will now be maintained with the same number of frequencies as they were during the 2017 summer season.
Please note that the changes listed below are preliminary and based on current availability in the GDS (Global Distribution System). Air Serbia is prone to making additional changes mid-way through the season. The table below displays the peak weekly frequency on each route during the course of the summer season. Increases in frequencies to a number of destinations do not come into effect until mid-June. Seasonal flights to Split and Dubrovnik will run until the end of the summer season, while services to Malta and Pula will operate until mid-September, and to St Petersburg and Hamburg until mid-October. EX-YU Aviation News will also bring you summer season changes for Adria Airways, Croatia Airlines and Montenegro Airlines during the course of the month.
| Destination | Frequency S2018 | Frequency S2019 | Change | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Amsterdam | 10 | 10 | - | - |
| Athens | 15 | 14 | ▼ 1 | - |
| Barcelona | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | starts JUN04 |
| Banja Luka | 5 | 5 | - | - |
| Beirut | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Berlin | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Brussels | 4 | 4 | - | - |
| Bucharest | 8 | 8 | - | - |
| Cairo | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | starts JUN04 |
| Copenhagen | 6 | 7 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Dubrovnik | 6 | 7 | ▲ 1 | resumes MAY18 |
| Dusseldorf | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Frankfurt | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Hamburg | 3 | 4 | ▲ 1 | resumes JUN20 |
| Helsinki | 0 | 3 | ▲ 3 | starts JUN03 |
| Kiev | 0 | 3 | ▲ 3 | starts JUN04 |
| Krasnodar | 0 | 3 | ▲ 3 | starts JUN03 |
| Larnaca | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Ljubljana | 12 | 12 | - | - |
| London Heathrow | 9 | 9 | - | - |
| Madrid | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | starts JUN05 |
| Malta | 3 | 3 | - | - |
| Milan | 8 | 7 | ▼ 1 | - |
| Moscow | 10 | 10 | - | - |
| New York | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Nice | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | starts JUN06 |
| Paris | 13 | 14 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Podgorica | 21 | 21 | - | - |
| Pula | 4 | 4 | - | resumes JUN10 |
| Prague | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Rijeka | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | starts JUN04 |
| Rome | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Sarajevo | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Sofia | 6 | 7 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Split | 6 | 6 | - | resumes MAY13 |
| Skopje | 13 | 12 | ▼ 1 | - |
| Stockholm | 6 | 7 | ▲ 1 | - |
| St Petersburg | 4 | 3 | ▼ 1 | - |
| Stuttgart | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Tel Aviv | 5 | 5 | - | - |
| Tirana | 9 | 9 | - | - |
| Tivat | 21 | 22 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Thessaloniki | 14 | 14 | - | - |
| Venice | 4 | 4 | - | - |
| Vienna | 14 | 14 | - | - |
| Zadar | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | starts JUN21 |
| Zagreb | 10 | 11 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Zurich | 17 | 19 | ▲ 2 | - |
I must admit that they now finally have a really respectable route network.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteFor a small-size airline this is indeed a respectable network.
DeleteNice, but one question. How come they can manage all taht expansion with the same fleet?
DeleteProbably people from Belgrade as all JU seats at reasonable prices will be taken by transfer passengers. :)
DeleteUps previous comment should have gone to question who will now fly with Vueling.
DeleteThat's a pretty idiotic comment Anon 00.56 especially since most flights to BCN were filled with local passengers. And even if most were filled with transfer passengers, those from Belgrade could fly with Alitalia which regularly dumps fares to Spain. So no one loses.
DeleteIt is very interesting to see how insulting comments like this one of Nemjee does not get censored. :)
DeleteBecause there is nothing to censor. Your comment brings absolutely no quality to the discussion and its only purpose is to trash JU with no good enough reason.
DeleteAs I can see comment was mistakenly given here and not at some other point when Vueling was mentioned. Plus it seems reasonable. Chill out Nemjee, JU is going to be fine!
DeleteIt stops being reasonable after the same type of comment was made for the 500th time.
Delete500 times or more problem for Serbian travellers and tax payers remains. :)
DeleteI still don't understand how they will operate all these flights with the same number of aircraft.
ReplyDeleteThey will lease an extra plane for sure, but probably not until June.
DeleteYes it seems logical to me they will wait until June when new routes start, charters peak and a lot of the frequency increases go into affect to lease an extra plane. Otherwise I don't think they would be able to deliver this schedule.
DeleteThey could operate all scheduled flights with actual capacity without any problems. Additional A319 could be used for flights from INI.
DeleteSo overall a net increase of 27 weekly flights (not including charters).
ReplyDeleteNot bad at all.
DeleteWith the same fleet?
DeleteInteresting that Hamburg doesn't return until mid summer.
ReplyDeleteObviously gasto dominated route.
DeleteI really hope they will keep all the new destinations. We will see.
ReplyDeleteThat is an extra 50 flights a week.
ReplyDeleteI hope they have enough fleet capacity to run this flying schedule smoothly.
Aviolet is also increasing its charter flying this year too.
Or they should lease an extra A320 for the peak summer months.
How did you get extra 50 flights?
DeleteAnonymous at 09:11
DeleteAircraft don't just go to a destination, they have to return back to BEG too. So that is 50 flights total a week extra compared with S18.
This plus all the foreign airlines adding flights will mean a very busy summer for BEG.
DeleteBEG will be a mess this summer. I hope they find a way to cope with all this extra traffic.
DeleteIn total around 80 extra rotations per week from/to Belgrade this summer.
DeleteAnd no extra frequencies by Wizz, nice. Their market share will collapse.
Delete11-12 extra flights a day really isn't all that much so as to make the airport a mess.
DeleteI am sure Vinci will increase personnel doing security screenings, handling etc. and everything will run smoothly.
Yep they are already hiring more ground staff at BEG.
DeleteIn Scandinavia we are just missing Oslo. Otherwise they have done a good job. I still can't believe they are finally starting Spain. Very happy about it!
ReplyDeleteReykjavik missing too :P joking, but it is good to see that CPH and ARN are going back to daily.
DeleteOslo is well covered by Norwegian, but I would love to see JU fly to one of the other international airports in Norway, like Bergen or Trondheim. They have good regional connections by airlines interlining with JU, so it could work well for both guest workers and tourists, as well as Yugoslavs living in Norway (mostly Bosnians and Serbs).
DeleteImpressive network for a regional network, no one can deny it, not even pro haters :)
ReplyDeleteSpain seems to be selling really well. In August some dates to Barcelona are already sold out! Some already have A320 assigned to it.
ReplyDeleteNice. It was long overdue.
DeleteI honestly don't know what they were waiting until now.
DeletePoor Vueling. Who will fly with them now and arrived to BCN at 04.00 in the morning. :D
DeleteThey are really advertising transfer options from Krasnodar to the rest of Europe a lot :) Speaking of transfers on my flight from Brussels last week a girl sitting next to me was from Greece and was heading to Athens via BEG. Also lot of Lebanese passengers on the flight.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteThey offer some great deals for connecting flights! You can get a cheaper ticket for BEY-BEG-AMS than just BEG-AMS.
Well that's normal. All over the world, airlines charge lower fares for passengers who are travelling on two flights (transit) because the airline gets money from both flights — it results in price discrimination, whereby the same seats on the same flight can be significantly different in price. It’s a similar situation with BA in London, SingaporeAir in Singapore, Iberia in Madrid, etc.
DeleteIt means that someone flying from BEG to CDG subsidizes with the price he pays for his ticket the ticket for someone flying from BEY to CDG via BEG.
DeleteIt is great if you are a Lebanese, not so great if you are a Serb.
That is why Polish and German people subsidize Serbs who fly for €700 to the US while Germans pay more than €1000.
DeleteTickets from France to Beirut are not cheap as they were some years ago, Aegean is much more aggressive.
DeletePrice for BEG-AMS is reasonable now. Return trip is 100 euro,only airpor taxes are 50 Euro.Same goes for Berlin ,return trip is 80 euro
DeleteSamo ljudi iz exYu pisu kako neko subvencionira nekoga na nekom letu dok im se subvencionirane kompanije raspadaju. Onaj iz Bejruta za Pariz placa nizu cenu do BE puni avion i placa deo troskova leta za Pariz inace bi karta za onog iz Beograda bila jos skuplja. Ne placa punu cenu karte do Beograda inace ne bi leteo.
DeleteNacionalni sport - zavirivanje u tudji novcanik
DeleteTo sediste iz BEY za BEG i iz BEG za AMS bi islo prazno, a ako ga prodas i za 100 eur to je cist prihod; problem nastaje kada nemas dovoljno lokalnih putnika po segmentu BEY-BEG ili BEG-AMS koji placaju punu cenu koja "drzi" ili isplacuje let nego ti vecinu putnika cine tranzitni putnici, onda taj let moze da bude neprofitabilan....svi na svetu to rade, lider je LH koja je jos osamdesetih razvila softver koji ukljucuje sve parametre i diriguje kompaniji kada, kako, kome i koliko da naplati (through Lyfthansa systems).
DeleteNe bi sediste islo prazno za Pariz svakako. Da kosta 100 EUR u proseku a ne 350 I LF bi bio bolji.
DeleteВизер наплати 100 ојра у једном смеру до оне чатрље коју називају париским аеродромом. Дакле нереално је очекивати исто од Ер Србије. Уз све то, изгледа да се банда удружила тако да сви колективно деру путнике... и Јат, и Визер и Ер Франс. Но добро, зато могу да се нађу карте за 220, 250 евра преко Луфтхансе. То јест оне карте које субвенционишу Немци. ;)
DeleteBog blagoslovio biznis putnike Lufthanse sto nam subvencionisu letove :)
DeleteKoliko puta Brisel bude 250 a kod JU po 350 iako avion leti poluprazan. I tako i za London i mnoge druge destinacije. Zato LH uvek ima overbooking na vecernjem letu iz Frankfurta.
У чему је онда проблем? Има јефтинијих летова до Брисела, кога брига да ли је са ЈУ или са неким другим.
DeleteSvakako je lakse leteti bez presedanja. Da ne pominjemo da je letenje sa presedanjem u situaciji kada postoji direktan let ekoloski neprihcatljivo.
DeleteУ том случају иди бициклом до Брисела, то ти је најеколошкије. А ако ти бицикл не одговара изволи имаш Визер за Ајндховен. Само што наравно њих нико овде не напада због цена које су знатно скочиле у последње време.
DeleteVery good network.
ReplyDeleteHappy to see Cairo back after so many years and nice that it is year round.
ReplyDeleteFares are very affordable too.
Deletewow, this looks really impressive on a map!
ReplyDeleteI am surprised SKP is their only Balkan destination to see a reduction. Such a shame.
ReplyDeleteThere is no use competing against Wizz Air. W6 has now covered pretty much all of Europe from Skopje. And I know someone will say how Adria and Croatia added flights but people forget that P2P travel is also large but the majority of those that just want to go to Belgrade drive, which is not a convinient option to Zagreb or Ljubljana.
DeleteATH is reduced too from 15 to 14 weekly.
DeleteBut Aegean is increasing capacity with 5 weekly A320s instead of 3 last year so overall the traffic will be up.
For the crappy service they do to SKP they're happy they have any passengers left. The number of times people have been left to spend a night at BEG airport without proper communication and "4:59" delays is beyond count now. Just despicable attitude.
DeleteI have never seen any major delays to SKP, especially the overnight flight.
DeleteThat one flight made no sense anyway, it used to depart at 07.30 with virtually no connections on the way back and only JFK to feed it on the way there.
DeleteThey're not delays. They are outright cancellations of the night SKP leg and replacement with a morning flight without providing overnight stay and trying to wiggle out of having to pay compensation. Happened multiple times to both me and people I know.
DeleteHuh? What morning flight? I think you are confusing something as JU doesn't have a morning SKP flight.
DeleteThey have covered Croatia completely.
ReplyDeleteRomania should be their next focus especially since most destinations can be served year-round.
DeleteBased on what do you say year round?
DeleteBased on their current service outside summer months. In Croatia only ZAG has relatively ok demand outside of summer, in Romania there is much more potential.
DeleteThey will need more birds this summer that's for sure. Also this network to me seems like an introduction to long haul expansion next year, or possibly even in winter.
ReplyDeleteYep, looks to me like Air Serbia is preparing for some long haul expansion in 2020 with this year's summer network, which is the much smarter way to go about it then they did in 2016 with JFK.
DeleteHow will their Helsinki flights work out 3x per week year round??
ReplyDeleteThe sudden interest in Finland from ex-Yu region is interesting. First Croatia Airlines introduced seasonal flights from Zagreb, then Wizz Air announces flights from Skopje to Turku, and now Air Serbia from Belgrade to Helsinki. What's going on?
Delete@ 9,29 for me the bigger question is Krasnodar.
DeleteIf they promote it well then it can work quite nicely, BEG is right on the way from KRR to Europe. I think they will hurt OS big time because they need to fly south of Crimea while JU doesn't since BEG is much more to the south.
DeleteWhich other major European airlines fly to KRR?
DeleteAeroflot, Austrian and Turkish. There are a lot of airlines flying to Krasnodar but I would say these are the major ones.
DeleteKrasnodar handles more pax than ZAG.
DeleteSudden interest in Finnland? Well Finnair and Norwegian have been flying for years now to both Slovenia and Croatia where they have multiple daily flight to the coast. The demand is enormous. FInnair flies to LJU, PUY, DBV and SPU. OU stepped in carrieng the people via ZAG, now JU will do the same via BEG.
Delete@9.35 Finns are mostly interested (and have been for a long time) in the Croatian coast and Ohrid, so personally I believe that TKU-OHR would have been a better choice for Wizzair than TKU-SKP but most of AirSerbia's passengers will in any case head straight to Jadran.
DeleteI am sure Air Serbia will not only carry passengers to the Adriatic coast, there is also Greece where JU managed to build a decent reputation.
DeleteVery nice developments from JU this summer.
ReplyDeleteConsidering they shrank or stagnated for 2 years this is a nice change of pace. Good luck Air Serbia.
ReplyDeleteLet's not forget that soon they will probably also be adding flights from Nis.
ReplyDeleteDoubt it will be them, I think flights will go to FR or maybe even W6 who might add a third plane to BEG and use it to expand INI.
DeleteNot surprised about Barcelona performing well in advanced booking. Tour operators are all advertising Barcelona and Madrid big time this year for the summer and my guess is all are using JU.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is many tour operators migrated from Vueling to JU.
DeleteI hope the new routes hold up.
ReplyDeleteDidn't realize Krasnodar was just over the black sea. Flying time from BEG probably isn't too long.
ReplyDeleteFlight time is scheduled at 2h30min
DeleteNow thy just have to return to full service model and I will be happy.
ReplyDeleteFor me even does not have to be full meal, but would be good to get some sandwich/cake/chocolate bar or fruits with tea/coffee and water/juice as usually others offer on flights across Europe, instead of just water with couple of pretzels.
DeleteMost flights are under 2 hours, water and pretzels are fine for me. I can buy more if needed.
DeletePRN is still missing.
ReplyDeleteIt is political matter
DeleteImpressive! I hope the fleet will be able to support this schedule!
ReplyDeleteGood year for Serbian aviation in general.
ReplyDeleteExactly.
DeleteEspecially if we have a look how many new routes (more than 40!) by foreign airlines will be opened to BEG in summer 2019
I'm no fanboy but this seems like a respectable network. Nice to see a lot of increases.
ReplyDeleteNow that's starting to look like something.
ReplyDeleteOzbiljan i veoma ambicozan red letenja. Svaka cast i srecno!
ReplyDeleteA sada svim snagama u sredjivanje flote :)
Delete+1000
DeleteMy guess is that Split hasn't gone daily because of slot resstrictions.
ReplyDeleteCroatia is now their biggest market concerning flown destinations. 6 destinations.
DeleteWasn't SOF always daily?
ReplyDeleteit went down to 6 weekly last summer.
DeleteI think JU suffered as a result of the FR-W6 onslaught in Sofia. Now that the situation seems to be stabilizing their loads and yields must have improved.
DeleteHow are they able to add so many frequencies with the same number of aircraft as last year?
ReplyDeleteThey will probably lease extra equipment but there is no need for it until the middle of summer.
DeleteNo need for extra planes. They still have less frequencies than 4 years ago. Plus they do not fly to Abu Dhabi which equals to 3 regional/charter flights over the same period. 1000 return charter flights seem impressive but in reality they are spread over 100 days of pick summer season plus some run from Mid May to mid October. JU will be fine fleetwise.
Delete48 destinations in total, pretty nice network. Hopefully they manage to break 50 with some long haul destinations
ReplyDeleteGood luck JU! I would love IKA and AMM to be added.
ReplyDeleteWhat would they do with Amman?!
DeleteThe same like in BEY - transfer
DeleteOnly difference is that Lebanese diaspora is incomparably larger and lives all over the world.
DeleteJordan is a major tourist destination, they can fill a three weekly flight, I mean RO manages to with their rather limited network.
DeleteErm hello... if they can operate to Cyprus on a year-round basis then why couldn't they make AMM work? The biggest issue would be the length of the flight, it would be extremely tight as it's slightly longer than BEY.
DeleteNice. I think the new destinations were really good decisions.
ReplyDeleteNice picture with one of JUs best male flight attds, well experienced from many years serving with QR. Good choice JU!!
ReplyDeleteHe is really cute.
DeleteThe only thing missing from BEG is direct flights to Lisbon and Dublin, and then the airport is pretty much covered evenly across Europe. Maybe then only Lyon still?
ReplyDeleteAgree. ASL Airlines France is considering Lyon-Belgrade
Deletehttps://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/12/asl-airlines-france-eyes-success-on.html
I don't think ASL does that well in BEG, they did not extend flights even if they said they would consider doing it if there was success.
DeleteDublin would be a good destinatio for 2pw flights. Probably Kuwait as well.
ReplyDeleteI don't think so.
DeleteDon't forget that Serbian citizens need visa for Ireland and transfer possibilities through Ireland are not that attractive as through Schengen airports.
Kuwait..too far
Jazeera Airways should add Belgrade to its network.
DeleteVery very impressive!!
ReplyDeleteI hope that JU's long term plan is to at least fly double daily to ex-yu airport.
ReplyDeleteI think that only OMO is missing from ex-yu.
Maybe try Ohrid again.
Great 2019 ahead for the biggest airport in region.
Evaluating Krasnodar, I'm also wondering whether there is potential for 2 way tourist traffic. The city is pretty close to Crimea, and could act as a gateway for those Serbian/regional tourists that wish to spend their summer holidays on the crimean peninsula. I hear it's pretty lovely that side in summer.
ReplyDeleteI Soči je relativno blizu Krasnodara.
Deletehttps://www.ekapija.com/news/2427141/energoprojekt-ugovorio-posao-u-rusiji-projektovanje-i-radovi-u-rostovu-na-donu
DeleteI Rostov na Donu je na oko 300 km od Krasnodara. Tačnije 287 km.
So with this JU expansion and the rest of the carriers, will BEG achieve 6 million this year?
ReplyDeleteEasily 6,1
DeleteBravo Serbia!
ReplyDeleteThis is definitely going to be the year of Serbian aviation, with healthy organic JU and BEG growth, expansion at Nis, and opening of Kraljevo Airport. This country's aviation sector always had so much potential that was not reaped due to mismanagement. Finally someone grabbed the bull by the horns.
Do you think there is room for Niš, Kraljevo, & Užica airports operating all at the same time. It might spread the potential pax a little too thin.
DeleteIs it possible to publish the map of planned Aviolet/Air Serbia charter flights?
ReplyDeleteAviolet site has destinations from 2018. Unprofessional. They only way is to contact travel agencies directly.
DeleteThey update the website in April each year when they have the full list of destinations they will be flying to. Most airlines don't even list charter destinations, let alone have a dedicated site. Stop being spoilt.
DeleteMost airlines don't have dedicated charter brand. Aviolet brand should be retired with the last 733 as Airbus fleet will continue to fly charters.
DeleteExyu admin probably edited list of routes, copy/pasted it into gcmap and ta-da, 15 minutes max effort to create three destination maps. Once charter list is out in April I will create charter map to save spoilt Aviolet webadmins from exertion.
I would like to see MUC added as a year-round route.
ReplyDeleteAlso; WAW & IST should be retried, and maintained at least 5x weekly. These are important cities.
Retired? I suppose you mean returned/restarted?
DeleteYou seem to have misread 'retried.' But what do you think about what I wrote?
DeleteNot Warsaw because no P2P, but yeah Istanbul daily should work.
DeleteIn the ex-yu market, only Prishtina, Ohrid, and Nish are missing. Tuzla isn't viable from BEG
ReplyDeleteNiš je 220 km udaljen od BEG. I to povezano auto - putem. Malo illuzorno. Dođeš sat -sat i po ranije na aerodrom, letiš oko pola sata, 45 minuta, i kolima si za to vreme u BEG ili INI. Sa aerodroma u BEG ti treba pola sata i dok uračunaš preuzimanje prtljaga opet pola sata ispade da ti treba, u najboljem slučaju oko dva i po sata. Ovo je za INI - BEG. Petnestsk minuta manje BEG - INI. Šta se time dobija, osim ako nije neki transfer, a i to je pitanje?
DeleteINI - BEG only makes sense for transfer pax from Niš. Agree that no one would fly to BEG from INI when driving is so much more convenient.
DeleteНиш је 250 км од аеродрома, не 220.
DeleteНиш би био популарна линија за оне који преседају. Замисли хорор, слетиш из Њујорка у 05.30 и онда се клацкаш до аутобуске па онда још 02.45 до Ниша. Овако лепо преседнеш као човек и стигнеш у Ниш за свега пола сата.
Pa da ste pročitali moj post, videli bi da sam napisao da bi to radilo samo za transfere. I to samo neke. Jedino ako mislite da na toj liniji treba da bude petnaestak polazaka dnevno. Ako bude 2 - 3 leta dnevno, onda bi čekanje na transfer bilo i po nekoliko sati. Što je isto vreme kao i vreme za chek in. I mislim da tih 30km ne predstavlja neku razliku.
DeleteI u dolasku BEG i u odlasku bi morali da preuzmu prtljag i da urade check in. Takođe u BEG treba da urade carinsku i pasošku kontrolu. Kada dolaze iz INI uzmu prtljag, izvrše pasošku kontrolu, a kad dolaze u BEG pasošku, carinsku kontrolu preuzimanje prtljaga i onda predaja prtljaga za INI.
DeletePreuzimanje i ponovna predaja prtljaga?! Gde si to video bilo gde u Evropi za transferne letove? :)
DeleteLet svakako ne bi koristili samo transferni putnici. Bez prtljaga na taj let moze bez problema da se krene sat vremena pred poletanje sa Novog Beograda.
Pa verovatno da bi to bilo potrebno jer putnici koji bi leteli JFK-BEG-INI bi u Beogradu morali da prodju kroz carinsku kontrolu jer je let BEG-INI domaci i u Nisu ne bi bilo carinske kontrole.
DeleteTo znaci da bi morali da preuzmu kofer, prodju carinsku kontrolu na BEG i onda opet taj kofer predaju na drop off salteru jer je check in vec uradjen u JFK.
DeleteINI - BEG je domaći let. BEG - INI je, takođe, domaći let. I video (iskusio) sam na letu Beograd - Sankt Petersburg via Mkoskva. I kako bi vi leteli u SAD iz Beograda preko Njujorka do Majamija? Ko bi vam u Majamiju uradio pasošku i carinsku kontrolu na letu između dva grada u SAD? Da li sad malo jasnije?
Pasoska i carinska kontrola nisu isto. Obavljaju je dve razlivite vrste organa i predstavljaju odvojene administrativne procedure. :)
DeleteOsoba koja dolece na transfernom letu bi morala da obavi pasosku kontrolu ali prtljag svakako nastavlja do finalne destinacije kako je to uobicajeno u avio saobracaju vec preko 30 god. Npr, osoba sleti u Njujork, prodje pasosku kontrolu, a njen prtljag nastavlja do Majamija gde ga podize. Carinski organi imaju pristup i pravo pregleda prtljaga na aerodromu Njujork u restriktivnoj zoni aerodroma (sto se u praksi redovno i cini).
Pa gde će izvršiti carinsku kontrolu? U Nišu, prilikom odlaska za Beograd ili dolaska iz Beograda? Kako to zamišljate? Doleti neko iz Beograda kao transferni putnik iz Londona, pokupi prtljag i zato što dolazi iz Beograda odlazi na domaće dolaske, a ne na međunarodne dolaske. Isti je slučaj i sa odlascima iz Niša.
Delete@dd
DeleteNema skupljanja prtljaga u Vasem opisanom slucaju. Prtljag direktno putuje u Nis. Kao sto npr. direkto putuje u Madrid kada presedate u Cirihu na letu iz Nisa. Carinski organi postoje i imaju pravo kontrole.
Koji ce carinik da kontrolise putnike na domacoj liniji Beograd-Nis?
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DeletePa to je međunarodni let. VI ne napuštate deo aerodroma koji predstavlja, da kazemo, ničiju zemlju. I kada dođete u Madrid, proćićete carinsku kontrolu, jer je let iz Ciriha medunarodni let. Linija Beograd - Niš je još uvek domaća, osim ako vi nemate neke novije informacije. Još uvek onima iz Niša i onima iz Beograda ne treba pasoš da bi putovali u između ta dva grada. Da li je sad jasnije?
Ja imam utisak da mi ne pricamo isti jezik iako nam je obojici srpski ocigledno maternji.
DeleteJFK-BEG medjunarodni let
BEG-INI domaci let
Da bi se sa medjunarodnog preslo na domaci mora se proci pasoska i carinska kontrola. To se jedino moze uraditi u Beogradu posto je to ulazno/izlazna tacka iz Srbije. A posto se to mora uraditi u Beogradu isto tako se prtljag mora pokupiti , proci kroz carinsku sluzbu i ako je sve u redu kao domaci putnik nastaviti ka Nisu ponovnim predavanjem prtljaga.
Let Cirih - Madrid ili Frankfurt Madrid je let u okviru Sengen zone. Jeste li ikada leteli negde u Sengen zonu sa presedanje u Sengen zoni?!
DeleteIli da budem jos jasniji. Let Beograd - Frankfurt - Hamburg. Pasiska kontrola je u Frankfurtu ali se prtljag uzima u Hamburgu.
Ali znate li zasto?
DeleteRazlog je vrlo prost.
Na letu Beograd-Frankfurt-Hamburg vas prtljag je oblezen belom a ne zelenom bojom sto znaci da ste let zapoceli van EU i da carinik sme da vas prekontrolise.
U Njujorku niko nece posebno oblezavati prtljag samo zbog Air Serbie
I hope they will replace the ATR fleet as soon as possible, or at least use 72-500s much more. 72-200 is really noisy and uncomfortable, even for one hour flight. One can't have normal discussion aboard.
ReplyDeleteRgds from Ljubljana,
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True dat.
DeleteThe route map is looking good now. It seems only Geneva is missing as a link from Belgrade at the moment. They only need to consolidate their frequencies to existing destination, try to increase the frequencies.
ReplyDeleteWhat about more cities in Italy, Romania?
DeleteEasyjet flies Geneva-Belgrade so it might be difficult for Air Serbia to compete. Swiss failed on the route after easy started.
DeleteIf NCE route at expensive French Riviera does well for tourists from Belgrade, then the next step should be Naples in Italy. Air Serbia had charters to Naples last year:
Deletehttps://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Serbia/Airbus-A319-131/5415065
NCE worked nicely for W6 for OTP and SOF.
DeleteJU must consider NCE and not LYS.
Swiss didn’t fail on the GVA - BEG route, for them it was totally different story. They didn’t have the choice, due to the base restructuring.
DeleteJU will fly to NCE this summer season
DeleteCould Mostar work 3x weekly?
ReplyDeleteJU is not interested in OMO. Even OU struggles there
Deletebecause of OU stupid schedule..
DeleteIf JU tries a better time slot, they could count on transfer passengers from OMO.
But just not enough planes.
JU should think about leasing several ATR 42s..
my opinion Fleet for JU should look like by 2022
ReplyDeleteA330 x2
A321 x2
A320 x4
A319 x12
ATR72 x6
ATR42 X2
Aviolet
Beoing 737-700 x3
Beoing 737-800 x1
Lease obviously
I would exclude the A321. It's harder to fill this plane.
DeleteFor the Aviolet it would probably be the Max 8. Even though it has an old-fashioned design is still a new aircraft.
Why not add a 767 for charter busy Aviolet destinations too. They are cheap an reliable.
Why on Earth would they need 18 aircrafts from A320 family?! JU already flies half empty outside peak season on most routes.
DeleteHalf empty on most routes? What garbage. I think you're confusing them with another "seasonal" regional flag carrier.
Deletewhy 16 A319/A320
Deletebecause by 2022 JU should fly to many big cities 3/day at least.
likes of FRA, CDG, AMS, SVO etc
@Anonymous7 March 2019 at 10:46
DeleteCould you give us official LF for JU during winter seasons?
@YYZ BEG
DeleteI think you are too optimistic. FRA is now daily (with some struggles) and might go to triple daily only if they join Star Alliance and start code sharing with LH.
AMS and CDG are performing well in terms of LF because JU is feeding AF/KLM for cheap (while charging top prices to O&D passengers).
JU can't get the slots it wants in FRA, that's the main reason why there are no morning flights in summer.
DeleteIf it joins Star Alliance JU could get additional slots in FRA, maybe even operate all flights on BEG-FRA route like Adria for Ljubljana. Unlikely to happen. But overall, they need to scale down fleet and operations and try to become profitable (for real).
DeleteScale down? Not really, they need to grow and to expand their network so as to build a critical mass. It's not like they have 350 aircraft, they are a small airline and if they further shrink they will go bankrupt. Both Aegean and LOT survived because they grew, not because they shrank.
DeleteSerbia is a relatively small and poor market, they need to get passengers from elsewhere in order to further boost their profitability and financial stability.
That is another option. To have 50% more frequencies and double the number of passengers. Hopefully government will not poor money in that project just to try to become stable and profitable.
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