Air Serbia is in the process of launching nine new routes from Belgrade which it says will play a role in its future expansion plans. The airline noted it made a careful selection of the seven year-round and two seasonal routes, bringing its network to a total of 49 international destinations.
The first of the new destinations, Helsinki, was launched over the weekend. Despite a small Serbian diaspora in Finland and limited business ties between the two countries, the two cities will be linked with three weekly flights. Air Serbia is initially targeting transfer passengers on the route but expects for leisure travel between the two countries to develop in time. "The flights departing from Helsinki have been scheduled so as to offer smooth transfers via Belgrade Airport to Tirana, Sofia, Dubrovnik, Split, Larnaca, Athens, Thessaloniki, Beirut, Skopje, Podgorica, Tivat, Bucharest and Krasnodar", Air Serbia's CEO, Duncan Naysmith, said. He added, "I am confident that the three weekly flights we added between the two cities will significantly improve connectivity of Finland and the Nordic region on the one hand with Southeast Europe on the other, thus contributing to the development of business and tourism cooperation". The inaugural service from Belgrade saw a group of senior Serbian travellers visit Finland as part of an organised tour group, while the return flight also saw transfer traffic from Russia.
As part of its expansion, Air Serbia is returning with scheduled flights to the Iberian peninsula after 21 years. The inaugural flight from Belgrade to Madrid registered a cabin load factor of 91.7%, while the return service had a 100% load factor. The weekend also saw the launch of flights to Barcelona, which was followed by Nice. Official airport welcome ceremonies at these destinations will take place over the coming days. On Monday morning, Air Serbia returned to Kiev after a three-year period. Similar to Helsinki, the airline is targeting transfer passengers on the route, in particular for onward travel to Tirana, Sarajevo, Sofia, Dubrovnik, Split, Larnaca, Athens, Thessaloniki, Beirut, Skopje, Podgorica, Tivat, Bucharest, Zurich and New York. Today, the Serbian carrier will mark the resumption of flights to Rijeka, after 29 years, and Cairo, following a fourteen-year hiatus. The airline will complete its summer expansion from Belgrade by resuming scheduled operations to Zadar on June 21, for the first time since August 1990.
Air Serbia touches down in Kiev
Commenting on the expansion, Mr Naysmith noted, “With the introduction of no less than nine new routes in just one month, Air Serbia has once again confirmed it is the regional leader in commercial air transport. We are very happy because we managed to significantly improve the functionality of our network, through careful selection of destinations, and in accordance with our passengers’ desires and the strategic plans for further expansion. The new routes that are being launched are a result of hard work by numerous departments of the national airline, over several months, which makes us extremely proud”. The carrier added, "By connecting the Serbian capital with nine new, strategically selected destinations, and by expanding the Air Serbia international network to 49 destinations, our national airline provides strong support for our economy and drives tourism growth".
New routes seem to have been good picks so far.
ReplyDeleteAgree. I'm wondering how Cairo will perform. I think in summer it will benefit from tourists who may go through Cairo to holiday resorts on the Egyptian coast, while JU will also try to develop transfer traffic, similar to what they have on Beirut route.
DeleteI have heard that ticket sales for CAI is quite good
DeleteIt would be great if Air Serbia could start a direct flight from Tel Aviv to Nis
DeleteAnd maybe via Malta -Nis
DeleteCongratulations Air Serbia.
ReplyDeleteThis indicates to me that long haul expansion is next on the cards.
ReplyDeleteIf that is the case they are going the right way about it this time around.
DeleteExcellent results. Well done Air Serbia!
ReplyDeleteWhat makes me happy is that they actually added aircraft, until now it was just rearranging of chairs on the deck. This is the real deal.
ReplyDeleteLove them or hate them, JU is the only ex-YU airline that seems to be getting its house in order.
Montenegro is also improving its performance.
DeleteGood luck JU. Glad to see u re back in Spain. I think both routes are justified and at least one will become yearround
ReplyDeleteBoth routes are year round.
DeleteThere are better chances BCN to survive as year round than MAD
DeleteAll routes are year round except Nice and Zadar.
DeleteI said "to survive" as year round route...
DeleteThere are information that KRR did not perform well on the first flight. Let's see if it is going to work
ReplyDeleteYou can't judge a route's performance on a single flight and that being the first one of all.
DeleteReturn was ok, 79 passengers in total with 4 in business. That's a LF of 55%.
DeleteAs I said let's see...BCN, MAD, NCE, HEL were all good on first flights
DeleteYes, but onward flight was just 33 in economy
DeleteI really wouldn't trust load factors from anonymous people posted on here.
DeleteIf LCA survives in winter then why wouldn't KRR, MAD, BCN or HEL?
DeleteKRR and HEL will not be continued. They will become seasonal.
DeleteStop talking nonsense. Flights are already on sale for winter.
DeleteREALLY looking forward to see LF on LHR route those two pm flights! On Sun 26th May, 16.05 flight there was about 30-40% seats occupied and there was ANOTHER flight 10 minutes later. I guess Etihad plane flew practically empty. I could no see queue on C1 gate. (School holidays and UK bank holiday on)
ReplyDeleteThe flight was put on sale 2 weeks before it launched. What did you expect?
DeleteExactly, because of a short time to sell tickets loads were abysmal on the first few flights. However loads have considerably improved since and the route will do well in summer.
DeleteWhy are people so surprised? We are talking about London here, not some random village in the middle of nowhere.
Advanced planning.
DeleteNot wasting aviation fuel.
Not wasting tax payers money.
(It may sound as a surprise but majority of people in UK plan holidays months in advance and I cant see, unfortunately, Serbian travellers filling up aircrafts)
You need to ask EY about this. They introduced flights in order not to lose slots at LHR, they brought the plane, they brought the crew etc. It is obvious they do not care here about LF.
DeleteHere we go again with the whole taxpayer money argument... do you even pay taxes in Serbia?
DeleteWhat was JU supposed to do? Say no and lose a chance to get the slot at LHR which it so desperately needs? JU's loads last year were very high even in low season which indicates that there is room for growth at LHR. It's a short-term loss for a long-term gain.
It's true that JU388/9 had been put on sale 2 weeks before it launched, but something doesn't go well with this flight. Two weeks have passed and average LF is as low as 25%. Many flights had around ten passengers.
DeleteI would be really careful with trusting anyone's loads (I wonder how you all know load factors on Air Serbia). There was a guy here today (comment deleted) who claimed that there were 15 passengers on Air Serbia's first flight to Cairo, even though the first flight hasn't even operated.
DeleteMany people work at the airport and they have access to that day's loads, not only JU but all airlines flying that day.
DeleteSomehow you need to develop the skill of recognizing realistic comments from those who are nothing but jeaulos.
DeleteIf someone said that KRR was OW 33Y and RW 79Y with 4J it looks like more relaible / realistic comment for the flight that actually operated.
If you see comment saying 15 pax were on board of the flight that has not happened yet - well then make your own conclusion.
I don't know who wrote there are 15 pax, but please don't be stupid and say how can we know the number of pax on flights to come.
DeleteThere is some thing called computer, and Air Serbia information system. When you click the right buttons you get info on the loads. JU manamanage does not wait in front of the gate and count how many people accidentally show up to take the flight.
BEG - CAI Y89J1
Idk the load for the return flight.
But if you have the Air Serbia information system in front of you, how don't you know the load on the return flight?
DeleteThere is no reason of calling anyone stupid especially if you did not understand the point.
DeleteIt is obvious that the person who wrote there "were" 15 pax on the flight wanted to make the confusion and it was recognized by most participants here. So pointless to discuss about it.
LF on JU386...I sort of witnessed.
DeleteUnfortunately I could not, well, I wasn't that obsessed, to do a full head count but all middle seats were empty and one passenger per row pass the emergency exit.
Is I mentioned I could not see LF on the flight 10min later.
(It is amazing that anyone can defend adding flights in the middle of the season with full price which just happened with JU388 flight. Etihad somehow gave JU those flights for free? Give me a break mate!)
And why do you think that Air Serbia did a favour to EY for free?
DeleteThere you are.
Return flight, from CAI to BEG, is taking off tomorrow so it will be loaded later during the day.
DeleteBA888 you understand JU needs those slots? Are you aware of that? It is cheaper to fly planes empty for a month than to pay millions to lease slots.
DeleteIf JU needs/gets these slots all year round and provides competitive price (!!!) for I'd say OK product I see no problem.
DeleteBut I see low chance about any of the above happening...
Competitive prices? What exactly are competitive prices for you? You want 20 Euro return tickets from one of the world's most expensive airports? Talk about being unrealistic.
DeleteBA888 just fly from Luton and you will be fine, that's the airport and airline for price sensitive pax like you.
DeleteFYI mate, other national carriers fly from this 'expensive' airport in London to e.g. Bucharest (sort of same distance) for the half of the money and with similar level of service...
DeleteAs you clearly enjoy being ripped off I hope you have fun defending the above...
And don't worry about my sensitivity to prices ;-)
BA888 you are absolutely right!
DeleteThis new London flight is utter nonsense and waste of tax payers money (either way - giving subsidies or not making profit for the owner). Many people here claim that London has fantastic LF. I have personally not witnessed that on few flights I had to London over past years.
Yes especially since you flew on a few flights over a few years.
Delete05-12.08.2018 for flights out of Heathrow:
DeleteBEG on JU: €296
ATH on A3: €356
OTP on RO: €312
BUD on BA: €255
ZAG on BA: €325
My oh my, look at JU ripping off its passengers!!
Ermm...
DeleteSorry mate....
Same dates:
11:40LHR
17:00OTP
British Airways British Airways
Non-stop3h 20m Flight details
lowest
Economy
from
£156
And if you ever lived in UK you might know that dates you chose are in the middle of the school holidays and that prices are not representative.
Anyway...Have fun...
What do the holidays have to do with anything? Serbs in the uk have them as well so JU can hike the prices as well and anyway you claimed JU is twice the price of some of its neighbours which obviously isn't the case.
DeleteAs for BA is that return or one way?
All prices above are return.
DeleteLet me complete the list:
Delete05-12.08.2019
OTP on BA: €324
Hahaha what a fail, better luck next time BA888.
DeleteCestitke za nove rute. Sad cekamo Toronto,Peking,Cikago...
ReplyDeleteSantjago, Gvadelupe, Osaku....
DeleteThis is massive expansion, Air Serbia is getting back on the original plans from 2013 of making Belgrade regional hub, but this time more carefully, with more balanced approach.
ReplyDeleteAccording to my opinion they should not start yet Chicago, Beijing or Toronto. This European network needs first to show its results and once proven to be successful new wide body routes to be introduced.
After Turkish airlines and Aegean Air Serbia positioned itself as third biggest Balkan airline.
Moraju uraditi nesto sa YU-ARA koji tokom zime stoji parkiran 5 dana!
DeleteAli da je bilo isplativo YU-ARA bi vec bio angazovan da leti tokom zime na nekoj drugoj ruti osim JFK.
DeleteImaju ga u lizingu evo vec trecu godinu.
Verovatno su mislili da ce i tokom zime imati 5 letova nedeljno. Posto se ispostavilo da je to nemoguce jer je sezonalnost veliki problem,trebaju dodati jos jedan A330 i uvesti jos 2-3 preko okeanske linije. Tako ce tokom zime oba aviona sa po 2-3 leta nedeljno na svakoj od destinacija biti uposljeni 5-6 dana.
Deletekakva prekookeanska ekspanzija, kakvi bakrači, avioni (ha!) - kamioni
Deletei ovo sada što lete za ny je preveliki gubitak
Koliko se secam oni su redukovali zimske letove za JFK jos negde 2017 tako da je bilo dovoljno vremena da uposle YU-ARA na jos jednoj desinaciji tokom zime, ali to ipak nisu uradili.
DeleteCak se secam jednog intervjua gde je Kondic rekao da im nije isplativo tokom zime sa YU-ARA da lete chartere za Kubu ili Tajland. Mogu zamisliti koliko bi zimi bilo neisplativo leteti za Kinu na primer.
Oni vec i sad imaju velike troskove na liniji za JFK i nisam siguran da pre potpunog razvoja ove nove evropske mreze letova treba uvoditi YYZ, PEK ili ORD sa drugim sirokotrupcem. Moglo bi ih preskupo kostati. Troskovi lizinga i odrzavanja linija ce biti duplo veci a cinjenica da ce avioni biti uposleni odnosno leteti ne znaci da ce donositi profit.
Bas zato moraju nesto uraditi da taj gubitak bude sto manji a ostatak ce platiti drzava na ime podsticaja razvoja turizma :)
DeleteDa bi bio regionalni hub/vrata regiona/sta god moras da imas barem tri dnevne frekvencije do aerodroma u regionu.
DeleteAegean doesn't have three daily departures to the region does it mean they are not a hub airline?
DeleteGospodine Čelik, prekookeanska i dalekoistočna ekspanzija je upravo ono što je LOTu omogućilo da letove za BEG podigne sa par letova nedeljno na skoro dva dnevno u poslednjih 5 godina. Air Serbia će nove longhaul linije iskoristiti za efekat povećanja broj putnika na regionalnim linijama.
Delete@anon 16:04
DeleteAegean is serving metropolitan area of 5 mil in developed country with booming tourism, and yes they are gate to Greek islands with multiple daily departures to their "region".
Yeah and look at the amount of competition they have yet they still manage to come out on top.
DeleteAir Serbia is going to bring a lot of transfer passengers to Adriatic coast.
ReplyDeleteTaking in consideration JU flies to TIV, DBV, SPU, ZAD, PUY and RJK it is obvious Air Serbia is using its potential to make successful business based on airports in Croatia and Montenegro.
You are forgetting their growing presence in Albania and Greece!
DeleteI was talking about Adriatic coast airports and in that group do not belong TIA and Greek airports
DeleteTIA can be considered an Adriatic sea airport because it's the only one that serves that sea in Albania.
DeleteSomehow you are right, but it is still not coastal airport.
DeleteThen we can replace TIA with VCE. ;)
DeleteHahah, now you speak my language. You are fully right, I forgot VCE
DeleteGood start JU. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is the next expansion will be long haul. They will probably get a second A330 which will allow them to open two routes. My guess is Toronto and Beijing/Shanghai.
ReplyDeleteIf they soft launch it as soon as JFK drops to 3pw they won't need 2nd A330 until next summer. That would keep ARA busy whole year.
DeleteWhich second long haul route would make most sense?
DeleteChicago, but that's just my opinion.
DeleteИмао сам прилику врсћајући се из Сиднеја, да из Беча пре три дана летим у авиону Ер Србије за Београд. Обрадовао сам се. Поготово се радујем закупом четири или пет авиона
ReplyDeleteи проширења дестинација. У нади да ће у трећој фази проширити флоту за још два, три широко трупна Ербаса или Боинга... Ако би се у будућности приватизовала Српска национална компанија, верујем да би имала флоту од 30 авиона. За домаћи, Европски и интер континентални саобраћај. Посвећеним људима могуће и на Балкану се развијати. Ер Србију чека време инвестиције да би била самоодржива компанија. Верујем. ✈
Радован. ☺✈😇✈🔅✈✨✈💒☺✈🌎✈🌍✈🌏✈
They should have selected Krakow instead of Budapest from INI.
ReplyDeleteAnd Odessa in stead of Kyiv.
Deleteor Lvov.
DeleteThey had quite good experience with Kyiv few years ago using Adria's CRJ900.
DeleteI suppose it is a reason they brought back this plane as well as this destination
They should fly Krakow from Belgrade.
DeleteInterestingly the Kiev flight will again like in 2016 be operated with CRJ900. They only operate the inaugural with A319.
DeleteHehe that's what I said at 10:34 :-)
DeleteSorry did't notice the second sentence :)
DeleteBut in winter they will have to go back to the A319. Won't that make this route difficult to work out?
DeleteI think KBP is not the only new destination that will be difficult to work out during the winter. I mean HEL or KRR in February with A319 even if it is only 2pw? Quite challenging
DeleteMy guess is that Madrid and Barcelona will be the two most successful routes this summer.
ReplyDeleteI think Krasnodar might be the weakest here. I'm not sure that the number of transfer could be so large to sustain the route. I don't think there will be many people from Serbia traveling there. 98% have never even heard of the city.
DeleteMy estimation for this summer (newly introduced routes fro BEG):
Delete1. BCN
2. CAI
3. KBP
4. MAD
5. ZAD
6. NCE
7. HEL
8. RJK
9. KRR
I really hope the Helsinki route develops and works out. It is scheduled to operate twice per week in winter.
ReplyDeleteYep HEL will be on Wednesday and Saturday in W19/20.
DeleteAll new routes will be 2 weekly in winter - except the seasonal Nice and Zadar.
DeleteAnd this is just the first phase. Next month 12 new routes.
ReplyDeleteNice is a bit of an oddity. Is there a Serbian diaspora in the area?
ReplyDeleteNo big Serbian diaspora here.
DeleteElite destination, close to Monte Carlo and Cannes. Probably for passengers with deeper pockets
Interesting choice. But can that category of passengers fill an A319?
DeleteMy guess is that they are hoping to get transfers on this route, especially from Russia.
DeleteIt is only 2 pw in summer. I suppose they will have around 70%-75% LF here.
DeleteTransfer from Russia? Possible, but it takes too long via BEG. And those Russians flying to NCE surely would not care too much about the price of the ticket in order to pick transfer flight with long layover duration
Nice can be relatively affordable as well, it's a very popular summer destination. 2pw shoudl work
DeleteNow the hard work begins in making these routes sustainable.
ReplyDelete2019 will be a great year for BEG. All this expansion should push them to 6 million passenger.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteBig delegations from Air Serbia coming on the inaugural to Rijeka today - COO, marketing director, Area controller and head for Croatia market.
ReplyDeleteSto je dzabe i Bogu je drago :-)
DeleteMozda malo i nogice da probrckaju u moru, hehe puna kapa
There will be strong demand for both BCN and MAD from SOF because of the extremely short transfer time in BEG.
ReplyDeleteEven though there are many non-stop options JU can still compete.
Example: 24.09.2019
SOF-BCN via BEG - 92€
Total journey: 4h40m!
That's around 50€ cheaper than the non-stop FB flight on the same day.
JU has really competitive OW prices from SOF.
And do you know that FR flies non stop SOF-BCN on the same day for 39 EUR (less than 3 hours)?
DeleteConnecting flights tend to be cheaper than nonstop ones but it's great to see those promotional fares from Sofia. Shame they didn't bring the night flight.
DeleteWizz, Ryan and Bulgaria Air all offer direct flights to Madrid for bargain prices. Why would anyone fly via BEG?
DeleteYou will have to pay the hand luggage which is 9€. The price on their website is 52€. Still JU's price is quite good.
DeleteWhy is anyone flying on LH or OS to JFK when there are nonstop flights from BEG? Why did people from BEG connect in the past in DOH on their way to DXB when FZ flies directly?
DeleteA11:25
DeleteBecause there is always demand. There is a huge Bulgarian diaspora in Spain and now many Spaniards visit Bulgaria especially Plovdiv and Veliko Tarnovo.
Also JU has an agreement with UX which is important to stress out.
Let's say that JU price is really good, but why would anyone make transfer flight via BEG that costs more and that takes longer than FR flight?
Delete@anon 11:32
DeleteBecause it is cheaper.
In this case it is not
What a stupid comment. People fly via DXB, DOH, WAW, SVO, ATH despite direct flights to most of the destinations at their airports.
DeleteMind you, JU is flying to SOF for years certainly not carrying O&D traffic.
Regarding agremeent with UX, ok but why would anyone rather fly SOF-BEG-MAD-SVQ instead of SOF-FRA-SVQ
DeleteErr price, maybe? An Erasmus student is more than happy to pay less and have 2 transfer points.
DeleteThe same goes for the backpackers visiting Europe.
Vi stvarno mislite da FR drzi te cene za ceo avion?
DeleteHello anon 11:36,
DeleteCan you read English?
People take transfer flights as they are CHEAPER and therefore they are ready to fly longer with 1 stop.
In this case there is no benefit of having transfer flight as the direct flight with Ryanair costs less and gets you quicker to destination.
Why would anyone fly with JU via BEG in that case?
Why are you so worried about BEG and being so unhappy?
DeleteThey'll fly, just as they fly now.
Xoxo
PS: First flight BEG-MAD 100% LF.
Quite vague answer on direct queestion by avoiding to reply directly and chaning the topic. Speaks for itself.
DeleteWe were talking about craziness to fly SOF-BEG-BCN if you have cheaper and non stop flight SOF-BCN.
No more no less.
MAD-BEG was 100% LF and not BEG-MAD. Get real figures
DeleteCraziness and being illetarate is someone denying in the 21st century the existence of the transfer model.
DeleteJU flies for years to OTP, SKG, SOF, TIA, BEY and so on carrying transfer traffic.
You're asking questions to which you have the obvious answers so unless you're playing dumb there's no point in continuing this discussion.
My bad, LF was 91%.
You are right, BEG-MAD was 92%! HAHAHAHAHA
DeleteVery bad load, route must be a disaster
Ugh seems like anti-JU hysteria is going strong since 2013 when the deal with EY was announced.
He's also trying to say 100% of pax went to BEG. Good for BEG i guess.
DeleteYes, passengers fly tranfer when there is a reason for it.
DeleteIt looks like you would rather fly BEG-DOH-JFK for more expensive ticket with 1 stop and more time than non stop BEG-JFK for cheaper price.
So much logic in your post
Are you seriously comparing SOF-BEG-MAD and BEG-DOH-JFK :D :D :D
DeleteDude, look at the map.
Talking about logic..
Geography isn't your strong side.
Are you seriously comparing SOF-BEG-MAD and BEG-DOH-JFK :D :D :D
DeleteDude, look at the map.
You can't look up ONE date and then make conclusions out of it.
DeleteImagine 2 days before the flight, a customer needs to book.
FR direct 250 EUR with NOTHING included vs JU for 120 EUR with one stop.
Guess what the customer will choose. Do I have to explain you the transfer model?
Dude, let me put it on this way so you can understand it as well:
Delete- there is always option to fly via certain transfer airport if it brings you financial benefit. Usually (but not necessarily) these flights are cheaper, but it takes longer to get to the destination. In this case it has been spoken about flight SOF-BCN on 24.09.2019 and there was no financial benefit for the passenger as direct FR flight is cheaper than JU connecting flight via BEG.
- I am not comparing SOF-BEG-BCN (not MAD) with BEG-DOH-JFK. I am only giving the example of transfer flight in order it could be easily understood for those having problems understanding original post. It is not important which cities were used in the example (it could have been also BEG-CDG-JFK as a comparison with BEG-JFK), but the point was that transfer flights are not attractive at all if there is no financial benefit for the passengers involved.
In the case of BCN-SOF 24.09.2019 there is no such a benefit.
"In the case of BCN-SOF 24.09.2019 there is no such a benefit."
Deleteas of today! Not everybody buys tickets x months in advance, your conclusions are just non-sense.
The total journey time from SOF to BCN via BEG is less than 4 hours while the non-stop flight is 2h35m approx. so not such a big difference.
DeleteSpeaking of DOH-JFK, QR do have special prices from SKP to JFK via DOH!!
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So, if JU cannot be competitive enough to offer SKP-JFK, people will use QR and fly to DOH instead and save money.
Yes, we are talking about today as we can't know what is going to be the price in a month or two and which company will be cheaper. Maybe you have crystal ball, I don't.
DeleteI am sorry if my opinion hurts your feelings but that's the way it is.
Hahaha, great anon 13:07!
DeleteThe fact you keep focussing on financial aspects shows your level and lack of travel experience.
DeleteThe fact is, LCC and legacy transfers coexist in most European airports (ZAG being one exception) and each model has its own benefits.
What you're trying to say here is that JU shouldn't have even attempted to launch MAD and offer connections from SOF.
Well, tough luck, it already happened and it seems full with or without SOF so it makes this discussion totally irrelevant. Let passengers decide. No one's forcing you to fly MAD-BEG-SOF.
Also, you're forgetting FR is often MUCH cheaper from Eastern to Western Europe than vice-versa. You should include everything in the calculation based on a realistic scenario.
Besides, what's the focus on SOF or one single airport among dozens others?
There are no LCC in BEY, CAI, KRR, SVO, LED to name a few.
Give it a break.
Your approach to this topic is.. let's say...hilarious. Of course that financial aspect is for everyone paying his own trip, especially from Balkan area, more than dominant. Can you please provide your expertise about price insignificance to all LCC's who offer cheap prices? I am sure they will have to learn something from you...or not.
DeleteBy introducing new flights to HEL, KRR, KBP Air Serbia is actually targeting transfer passengers and it is exactly what they should do as well as for the passengers from SOF, BEY, CAI etc. Your attempt to get what I was trying to say miserably failed.
Here again you missed the point...In this post we were talking about second half of September 2019 where you can fly SOF-BCN for 50 EUR with FR. Even return ticket one week later is around 100 EUR and Air Serbia goes to 130 EUR. You can also add FR hand luggage costs and in the worst case you will get the same price...But with JU you will fly longer and you will have 1 stop in BEG. If you like wasting time, why not?
SOF was given as example. If you were reading my previous posts you would have seen that I mentioned other possibilities (including other airports) where transfer flights are much more attractive. You just need to read it carefully.
As far as i can see you're the only one wasting everyone's time here while begging for answers that are sinply obvious.
DeleteDo you want me to explain you why the sky is blue?
At the end who cares?
Begging...:-)
DeleteJust introducing the facts you can't stand...Who cares? It seems you do, dude.
PS: Are you sure FR departs at a time convenient for 100% of passengers?
DeleteDid they introduce round the clock flights or something?
There are people that have other priorities other than the price.
JU is there to make money. If the plane is filled with higher paying passengers to other destinations why should they lower the price from SOF?
Which is anyway more than reasonable all things taken into account.
Other examples of smooth transfers via BEG:
Delete05 Oct
CAI-BCN - 467€ OW
Total time: 6 hours 35min
14 Jul
SKP-MAD - 168€ OW
Total time: 5 hours 10min
16 Jul
BEY-CDG (popular route) - 363€ OW
Total time: 6 hours 10min
Here, JU must really lower the prices. VY, offer as little as 160€ OW via BCN.
OK via PRG: 168€ less than 7 hours
A3 via ATH: 193€ around 7 hours
1 Oct
KRR-CPH via BEG - 180.58€ OW not bad at all...
KRRWednesday, 30th October 2019, 05:25Krasnodar, Pashkovsky Airport, Russia
2 h 10 m
Air SerbiaJU687
Operated by Air Serbia
Type of transport:
Airbus A319
Wednesday, 30th October 2019, 05:35Belgrade, Nikola Tesla Airport, Serbia
BEG
Layover duration in Belgrade, Nikola Tesla Airport, Serbia: 1 h
Wednesday, 30th October 2019, 06:35Belgrade, Nikola Tesla Airport, Serbia
2 h 15 m
Air SerbiaJU400
Operated by Air Serbia
Type of transport:
Airbus A319
CPHWednesday, 30th October 2019, 08:50Copenhagen, Kastrup Airport, Denmark
BEG-CDG is full with higher paying O&D pax. No need to lower the price.
DeleteWhy are people obsessing about these things, if the price and schedule is right people will fly no matter what.
DeleteEvery time I fly to LCA via ATH on A3 there are several of us connecting from BEG despite there being nonstop flights on both JU and W6.
Obviously the same applies to JU in SOF, SKG, BEY, KRR...
Ever since JU announced these flights there has been just so much negativity all around.
@Anon 13:59
DeleteThe only thing you can't stand is the reality happening right under your nose.
Sorry, can't help you with that.
Some people are drooling over JU's new destinations. Dude, get over it.
DeleteYour wishful thinking & pathological negativity can't be called 'facts'.
By the way, while you're at it you should mail JU/Etihad let them know what mistake they're making. Try to get a job.
Don't waste your time here.
All Ryanair prices from SOF-MAD one-way on August through September are between 100 and 200 Euros.
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SOF-MAD is always busy with 3 carriers operating the route, similar to BCN.
DeleteStill, JU manages to compete because of price and excellent transfer time.
The SOF-BEG schedule has remained unchanged ever since JU started operating daily flights in 2014 meaning that it is effecient.
That is so massive, bravo JU!
ReplyDeletePotential new destinations for AS:
ReplyDeleteI realize that they have serious competition for these three cities, but they should fight back, be competitive, there is demand.
Munich
Warsaw
Istanbul
Other European destinations of interest for transfer pax.
Kraków
Lvov
Odessa
Southern Italy - Napoli?
Baltics
Middle East/Asia, Obviously some of these area are still unstable, and there are politics involved, but as soon as things calm down AS should jump in.
Ankara
Baku
Tehran
Baghdad
Tripoli
Regionally they aren't missing too much. Below cities could be good for transfer and some O&D pax.
Mostar
Maribor
Cluj-Napoca
Varna
With these new cities added to their network it would give AS excellent Regional, European, and Mid-East/Central Asian coverage.
They could then easily offer Toronto, Chicago, and China, plus potentially India.
Nice list and great cities with potential!
DeleteI would add:
Izmir
Tbilisi <<< JU is missing this destination badly
Rabat
Luxembourg
Porto
Eilat
Rotterdam (compete with W6 on the EIN route)
Second UK destination: Manchester, Cardiff, East Midlands
Dublin
Las Palmas and/or Fuerteventura (seasonal)
Second British destination would be nice. Tbilisi could probably work too.
DeleteDo you think Luxembourg could really work?
LUX might work for some cargo route. Charlie, are you the same guy as the Youtube Charles?
DeleteNo, I am not the youtube guy. Who are you referring to? Any links?
DeleteCharles Cather on youtube
DeleteCargo should also be developed from BEG.
DeleteNo need for other new destinations except Lviv with Atr.
ReplyDeleteFirst they should increase frequencies, especially Madrid and Barcelona but also Saint Petersburg.
And Tel Aviv,Stuttgart and Dusseldorf should become daily.
TLV can't due to slots.
DeleteBarcelona and Madrid should have been priorities for Wizz Air since they began flying from Belgrade many years ago .
ReplyDeleteOnly god knows why they never started those ...
Ask Hogan and the previous Abu Dhabi experts...
DeleteWizz preffered to shuttle those pax from Budapest and Timisoara.
DeleteAnd now they lost the most. Also that strategy made no sense when Vueling launched BEG.
DeleteU petak povratni let iz KRR biznis klasa rasprodata. Izgleda ce KRR dobro raditi.
DeleteWhy would someone choose to travel to Zadar ,Split or Dubrovnik via Belgrade ? There were hundreds of daily flights to Croatia from Scandinavia, Helsinki as well.It takes additional 2 hrs from Belgrade to Croatian coast ,why on the earth would anyone choose that? Ps Air Serbia ain't authorized to offer anything smooth to Croatia. Serbia is not a popular country to go to, so I don't get it why Serbian govt wasting so much taxpayer money to push an airline which causes losses in a short & long term.
ReplyDeleteAre you Purger?
DeleteLarnaca has become 3pw?
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