The 2019/20 winter season begins on Sunday October 27, with Air Serbia to make considerable changes to its network. For the first time during the winter, the airline will operate from two bases, in Belgrade and Niš, with eleven routes to be maintained from the latter. Furthermore, the carrier will add extra frequencies on a range of services from the Serbian capital. Most notably, Ljubljana will see the biggest increase in flights, with seventeen weekly rotations to be maintained. Tirana will be boosted by a further four weekly services, which will be strengthened during the holiday period from mid-December until early January.
The Serbian carrier will maintain all of its new year-round services inaugurated over the summer from Belgrade including Barcelona, Cairo, Helsinki, Kiev, Krasnodar, Madrid and Rijeka. All will be operated twice per week, with exception to Krasnodar which will run three times per week. Services to Spain will be strengthened to three weekly over the holiday period. An additional weekly frequency will be added to Banja Luka, Bucharest, Larnaca, Podgorica, Skopje, Tivat, Thessaloniki and Venice. Unlike last winter season, Air Serbia has an additional Airbus A319 aircraft at its disposal, which is based in Niš. The growth in the airline’s regional network comes partially as the result of the recent demise of Slovenia’s Adria Airways.
The 2019/20 winter season runs until March 29, 2020. Please note that the changes listed below are preliminary and based on current availability in the GDS (Global Distribution System). Both frequencies and destinations are subject to change. Air Serbia is prone to making additional amendments to its scheduling mid-way through the season. Over the coming weeks, EX-YU Aviation News will bring you all the winter season modifications the remaining two national carriers in the former Yugoslavia will be making.
| Destination | Frequency W18/19 | Frequency W19/20 | Change | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Amsterdam | 7 | 7 | - | 8 flights from DEC16 - JAN06 |
| Athens | 7 | 7 | - | 10 flights from DEC16 - JAN06 |
| Banja Luka | 2 | 3 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Barcelona | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | 3 flights from DEC26-JAN09 |
| Beirut | 3 | 3 | - | 5 flights from DEC16 - JAN06 |
| Berlin | 6 | 6 | - | 7 flights from OCT27-NOV11 |
| Brussels | 4 | 4 | - | - |
| Bucharest | 6 | 7 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Cairo | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Copenhagen | 4 | 4 | - | - |
| Dusseldorf | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Frankfurt | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Helsinki | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Kiev | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Krasnodar | 0 | 3 | ▲ 3 | - |
| Larnaca | 1 | 2 | ▲ 1 | 3 flights from OCT27-NOV11 |
| Ljubljana | 11 | 17 | ▲ 6 | - |
| London - Heathrow | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Madrid | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | 3 flights from DEC20-JAN03 |
| Milan | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Moscow | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| New York | 2 | 2 | - | 3-4 flights from DEC09 - JAN03 |
| Paris | 12 | 12 | - | 13 flights from DEC22 - JAN05 |
| Podgorica | 18 | 19 | ▲ 1 | 21 flights from DEC09 -JAN06 |
| Prague | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Rijeka | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Rome | 5 | 5 | - | 6-8 flights from DEC16 - JAN13 |
| Sarajevo | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Sofia | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Skopje | 7 | 8 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Stockholm | 3 | 3 | - | 4 flights from DEC23 - JAN06 |
| Stuttgart | 4 | 4 | - | 4-5 flights from DEC21 - FEB03 |
| St. Petersburg | 2 | 2 | - | seasonal DEC28 - JAN11 |
| Tel Aviv | 4 | 5 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Tirana | 6 | 10 | ▲ 4 | 11 flights from DEC17-JAN07 |
| Tivat | 7 | 7 | - | - |
| Thessaloniki | 4 | 5 | ▲ 1 | 6 flights from DEC18 - JAN02 |
| Vienna | 14 | 14 | - | - |
| Venice | 2 | 3 | ▲ 1 | - |
| Zagreb | 10 | 10 | - | - |
| Zurich | 16 | 16 | - | 17-19 flights from DEC16 - JAN12 |
Departing Niš
| Destination | Frequency W18/19 | Frequency W19/20 | Change | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Baden Baden | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Bologna | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Friedrichshafen | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Gothenburg | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Hahn | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Hanover | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Ljubljana | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Nuremberg | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Rome | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
| Salzburg | 0 | 2 | ▲ 2 | - |
Looks like a strong winter. Respectable network and frequencies.
ReplyDeleteWill they keep the Nordica CRJ over winter?
ReplyDeleteNordica has already returned to its owners.
DeleteAh I see. Wonder if we will see it next summer too.
DeleteHopefully the loads will be sufficient for a larger plane.
DeleteI think there will be the most flights between BEG and LJU since the breakup of YU.
ReplyDeleteand before that, how many flights were there?
DeleteSpeaking of 1986-1990, it was about 5 daily, 3 of those by JAT, usually operated by B727, and twice daily Adria, usually operated by MD-80 or A320.
DeleteKrasnodar must be doing well if they are keeping it at 3 weekly during winter. Who would have thought it would perform better than St Petersburg.
ReplyDeleteMuch less competition :)
DeleteOn top of that JU kicked OS out of KRR so that's great for them.
DeleteAnonymous at 09:14 "JU kicked OS out of KRR"
DeleteLOL dude!
Then who did Dejane?
DeleteMarket conditions.
DeleteYou do realize that OS wasn't flying to KRR just to transfer pax to BEG, right?
At least I hope you do!
Dejan I am sorry but that's a stupid comment. JU and OS are after the same market, KRR to Western Europe. OS cut the route the moment JU entered. There was obviously no market for both.
DeleteWho said that OS carried passengers to BEG only?
From what I see, Air Serbia flies to several European destinations like Thessaloniki for example more than Austrian this winter.
DeleteAthens as well, I think they have 5 flights while JU has 7.
DeleteText from Travel.ru
DeleteThe unsuccessful Austrian Airlines flight schedule also played a role. A plane from Krasnodar to Vienna arrives in the evening, leaving relatively few options for transfers there on European flights. Similarly, the return flight departs from Vienna in the morning, also having a minimum of convenient connections from other cities. As a result, for many Austrian passengers, the transfer included an overnight stay in Vienna. This got away with the company as long as it was a monopolist in the European direction from Krasnodar. However, the arrival of competitors offering an early morning departure from Krasnodar and night return there, knocked down Austrian flight
There we go, hope this will be enough for people like Dejan who just can't stand JU winning in any market.
DeleteComparing JU with OS. The odds.
DeleteYes it's being compared on a particular route. It just doesn't work well for your narrative how everything JU does is a failure.
DeleteArrival of TK to KRR also played a major role. OS was obviously the weakest player and so they dropped out - but I wouldn't attribute it exclusively to JU.
DeleteOf course, God forbid we ever attribute anything ever to JU.
DeleteI said: "not exclusively" which clearly leaves certain credit for JU. If you insist that the OS withdrawal from KRR should be analyzed without taking TK into consideration then I'll skip this round.
DeleteOk, maybe it's better you skip it.
DeleteOS definitely did not get out of the way just for Air Serbia, but rather they were adviced form Lufthansa Group to restructure because they are unprofitable. They had to cut some unprofitable routes such as KRR. Air Serbia had absolutely no impact on the decision. I have worked for the LHG as consultant, thats why i know what im talking about here.
DeleteAnd I remember reading some comments here how most of the new routes from BEG would not survive the summer. So much for that.
ReplyDeleteWith enough subsidies even a BEG-CCS route would survive in winter! ;)
DeleteThankfully you don't have a problem with subsidies other national airlines in ex-Yu receive, or even low cost Hungarian carrier receives, yet many of their routes don't survive :)
DeleteThe good news is that Air Serbia uses those subsidies to expand its network and offer a wider choice to passengers, as well as cheap fares from its secondary base to several primary airports, including Rome. Other airlines use subsidies to service engines.
DeleteYou gotta spend money to make money.
DeleteThe one thing they have to address is the poor A330 utilization during winter. It is a massive waste to keep it on the ground for the majority of the winter.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteThey didn't address it in the previous three winters, why would they address it now?
DeleteTrue.
DeleteThey could split this check which ARA is doing now in IST, in those 5 days during the winter schedule.
DeleteFly to Toronto or Shanghai twice per week?
Good work.
ReplyDeleteThe coverage of routes is impressive. It will be a busy winter.
ReplyDeleteI think JU will easily handle over 3 million passengers this year.
ReplyDeleteI'm not so sure. That would mean they would have to handle an extra 520.000 passengers compared to last year.
DeleteWell their INI numbers are through the roof so that helps a lot. On top of that add a busy charter season and voila.
DeleteConsidering they carry a lot of transfer passengers which are counted twice, it is possible.
DeleteYou make it sound as if they are the only ones that do it. It's an industry standard, sorry.
DeleteThat's your interpretation. Nowhere did I say it was unusual or odd.
DeleteGood network. I'm a bit surprised that some German destinations like FRA is not daily though.
ReplyDeleteThere is strong competition from Lufthansa.
DeleteHow do they plan to operate all these routes with the same number of aircraft as last year?
ReplyDeleteThey have an extra plane - an A319.
DeleteSimple, the B737s will be utilised much more than last winter.
DeleteSuch an expansion is unprecedented for ex-yu airlines.
ReplyDeleteBEG has a good chance of reaching 6 million this year.
Nice to LCA get more flights this winter. The other day a friend of mine flew LCA-BEG on JU A320 and he said that the flight was sold out. They even had 8 passengers in business class. The following flight was also on the A320 so I guess loads must have picked up compared to last year.
ReplyDeleteThe new routes with connecting passengers probably helped fill up the flights.
DeleteAbsolutely, he said there were a lot of Germans and French onboard. I guess JU is making the most from Cyprus losing direct flights to Paris. Good for them.
DeleteNemjee I am shocked that SKP-LCA flight continues as year round! For a route without transfer passengers I would think that the demand would be very small to fill an A320 during the winter but obviously there is.
DeleteSKP-LCA is subsidized.
DeleteNot to forget that Wizz also flies BEG-LCA, so JU has competition.
DeleteWizz also extended flights into winter so good job to JU for fighting for its market.
DeleteIt's interesting how Scandinavia has never really worked outside the peak summer and holiday Christmas periods.
ReplyDeleteVery little demand from Scandinavians to come to Srbija during winter.
DeleteThis seems to be the case in all of ex-Yu, not just Serbia.
DeleteDon't forget strong competition from Wizz and Norwegian on Scandi routes. Since they carry mostly P2P traffic, there is little left for JU in winter. In summer there are a lot of transfer passengers to Adriatic coast, as well as transfers from US and Canada going to BEG.
DeleteOh yeah without Adriatic coast JU would be shutting down CPH and ARN flights. DY doesn't even fly in winter from ARN so it's just JU and W6. They both have few flights in winter.
DeleteI didn't say they exclusively transfer people to the Adriatic coast but they do make up a large lortion of transfers in the summer from many of their north European destinations. That's why they fly to so many cities on the Adriatic in summer.
DeleteThey also fly to a lot of points in the Balkans.
DeleteGreat job JU! I guess this is why government predicted 6.2 this year. If JU keeps growing then maybe we can see almost 7 million next year.
ReplyDeleteThis winter we also have a daily to CDG by AF and non-stop flight by Belavia.
It's good especially considering all the extra competition they have not just in BEG but from LCCs in Nis.
ReplyDeleteINI-BUD with A319 must be fun during Nov and Feb.
ReplyDeleteIt must be fun all year round. They're reconsidering the route.
DeleteOf course you have absolutely no clue but it is important for you to spread fake news.
DeleteThey are not reconsidering anything and it is not up to them to reconsider anything. Flights are subsidized. Overall Nis has performed extremely well.
DeleteINI is killing it this year. It should be at around 420.000 this year, next for sure over 500.000!
DeleteTheir Greece flights seems to be doing really well. Both in winter and summer. I'm surprised no other ex-Yu airline has ever considered Thessaloniki.
ReplyDeleteNo other ex-YU airline besides JU flies non-stop to Greece.
DeleteAs far as I know, Croatia Airlines flies DBV to Athens. Croatia Airlines is ex-yu airline, and the flight is nonstop.
DeleteTrue, forgot about that one.
DeleteSplit-Athens too
DeleteNot by an ex-YU airline, Aegean operates that route.
DeleteRealistically speaking only Serbia has real demand to Greece.
DeleteThere is pretty big demand from Croatia to Greece and vice versa during the summer season.
DeleteYeah pretty big demand during the three summer months. I am speaking about Belgrade which can support multiple daily flights throughout the winter season.
DeleteI think that Dubrovnik with ATR72 could work well in winter. Plenty of tourists going there beyond summer. maybe twice per week.
ReplyDeleteUnless they get some subsidy from the airport, I don't think they will fly to DBV in winter.
DeleteExactly. That is the reason Rijeka is operating in the winter.
DeleteIt is good to see that they finally have flights to Iberian Peninsula, North Africa and more CIS flights.
ReplyDeleteNice to see TLV being increased :)
ReplyDeleteFirst time BNX has increased in years :D
ReplyDeleteThose flights are a hidden gem haha, tickets are on average 50 euros. Much more convenient than the bus.
DeleteIt's an interesting decision considering the increased competition at Banja Luka.
DeleteVery good reaction to Adria collapse. I notice this morning they also sent A319 to LJU.
ReplyDeleteYesterday's flight to LJU was also on B737.
DeleteThey are adding more and more flights on larger planes. So far in the system I see 733 to LJU on 10.10, 12.10, 13.10 and 17.10. Interesting how ten days from now they already put a larger plane. Loads must be fantastic. Slovenes can't get enough of JU! :D
DeleteWhen you don't really have a choice you have to make do with that you've got.
DeleteOf course they have a choice. They can fly on Transavia, Turkish Airlines, Air France, Aeroflot, LOT, easyJet... they can fly from ZAG. Air Serbia has done a good job in Slovenia, it invested and now it's collecting the benefits.
DeleteIf you look at fares in November you can see that LJU has good loads, a lot of flights have the lowest classes already sold out. It's also good JU sells €40 one way fares.
DeleteWill they consider finally coming back to Istanbul?
ReplyDeleteHighly doubt it. TK is way too strong, plus they have competition from Pegasus. With Atlasglobal also flying between IST and BEG there is really no room for a fourth player.
DeleteActually TK and the other Turkish carriers would prefer JU to start flying to IST .
DeleteToo little frequencies are making their flights more expensive and thus unattractive for many that would like to visit Serbia .
Turkish people dont need visa for Serbia but this market is underperforming because of price of flying .
TK would like JU to start flying so that they make less money!!!
DeleteI’m sorry but that makes very little sense.
More flights to Tirana cool!
ReplyDeleteMuch better than last winter.
ReplyDeleteIs it me or is ZAG a bit underperforming for JU? Less capacity than to TIA and just two more flights than to SKP.
ReplyDeleteanyone know why?
If it was undeperforming, they would have decreased frequencies.
DeleteYeah but it's been like this for ages and no new flights were added in a long time.
DeleteZagreb isn't doing all that well this year. I think JU performance there is in line with the performance of the airport/market.
DeleteZagreb is also less then 4h of normal driving (you can be little bit faster :) ), so some people do make a choice to travel by car (both O&D and passenger that would go for connecting flights).
DeleteMarket from ZAG to the Balkans and the Middle East isn't that big either. TK is 10 weekly in winter for years now, double daily in summer. It's not that much capacity. ZAG demand is mostly to western Europe.
DeletePeople from ZAG might be tempted to take JU flights from LJU.
DeleteWell if the price is right why not?
DeleteIt may not be the question of particularly bad performance. There is limited number of aircraft available and those should be deployed on routes with the most benefits. ZAG is not one of them at the moment.
Delete55 extra frequencies compared to last winter season. Well done!
ReplyDeleteThat's almost extra 8 flights per day!
DeleteFleet will be fully utilised.
DeleteExcept A330 that is
DeleteNow that the region is becoming stronger, there will be more reason to improve the utilization of the A330.
DeleteFact check: A330 had higher utilization during inaugural W2016 season than what is scheduled for upcoming W2019 season.
DeleteI'm glad they realized that it takes time and energy to build up a network and that you can't start with megalomic plans. Start slow and build up your network over the years, boost the LF and profitability and then think about boosting frequencies.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteThis year there will be a lot of charters, especially around New Year. Much more than usual.
ReplyDeleteThis charter seson was massive.
DeleteOh yes and not only that but Antalya charters were extended to end of October, Egypt to the end of November!
DeleteJU has to extend charter season as much as possible into winter time, not just in Belgrade but also in other places in the former Yugoslavia for example Ljubljana and Banja Luka .
DeleteGood that they kept Kiev this winter, unlike last time.
ReplyDeleteThis expansion seems to have been much better executed than the one in 2016.
Delete+1
DeleteIf expansion in winter is a success we will see next year .
DeleteNow it is too early ...
If it wasn't then most of those routes would not be extended into the winter season. I think KRR was fantastic, all others are reduced to 2 weekly but that one stays as 3.
Delete"all others are reduced to 2 weekly"
DeleteThe only other route which was 3 weekly in summer was Helsinki. Everything else was twice per week.
MAD and BCN were later on increased to three.
DeleteThey were increased for a month in August, same way they will be inceased for a month in winter.
DeleteTrust me, airlines dont work like this .
DeleteIf flights are extended for a first time in winter it has nothing to do with their success in summer.
All these new routes have to prove that they can also be succesful in winter.
Next year all of of them get evaluated and then in one year only if they stay or even get increased we can say that it was a success .
Well I am sure JU looked at advance bookings before making a final decision.
DeleteI hope they reconsider introducing Ohrid.
ReplyDeleteYes, i do so too .
DeleteThey should time the flight to attract O&D .
Biggest task for Air Serbia obviously is to increase Frankfurt and Milan to daily in winter.
ReplyDeleteThese are only two daily frequencies which should be doable.
Other than that the new routes are saving winter flying for them.
I think DUS has a lot of potential as well, it's a central airport in the most populous area in Germany.
DeleteThis year JU really struggled to fill A319 to Dusseldorf and Stuttgart.
DeleteMost of the days they used CRJ900.
I guess because of their monopoly on this route prices went up and thus became too unatractive for many eople ...
STR maybe but DUS was ok as it saw the CRJ once or twice in September.
DeleteMost of time it was CRJ ...
DeleteDUS wasn't.
DeleteSTR always used to be operated by AT7 by JAT/Jat. 319 is too big.
DeleteMilan ide na 7X tokom praznika.
DeleteNext year when Eurowings starts flying from Stuttgart, Air Serbia will lower their prices and thus become more competitive .
DeleteLower prices will bring in more passengers and thus result in use of bigger aircraft .
Competition is not hurting but helping Air Serbia .
EW isn't known to be cheap, it will be like JU-OS situation in Vienna.
DeleteWill be interesting how JU flights to Stuttgart, Düsseldorf and Hamburg will develop.
DeleteFrom June 2020, Eurowings will fly 3x weekly from Stuttgart to Belgrade, so then competition on this route. The 2019 figures are not that overwhelming so far.
Figures from German airports to Belgrade:
Stuttgart: Average 72PAX (Jan-Jul)
Düsseldorf: Average 82PAX (Jan-Jul)
Hamburg: Average 67PAX (May-Jul)
These numbers are only from July and before when many new routes were nonexistent .
DeleteJU also deployed Crjets which were the perfect aircraft for these outes .
Which new routes could AS add in the coming years?
ReplyDeleteOdesa
München - if LH can fly three daily, there is room for one daily by AS
Warsaw - two daily means there is room for at least 3 weekly AS
Istanbul - 2-3 daily, means there is room for at least 3 weekly AS
Pishtina, when politics allow, daily
Ohrid, Plovdiv and Lviv .
DeleteOther than them, JU should concentrate on increasing frequencies to existing destinations .
This is the best advice how to lose money being JU. Just looking at the map is not enough.
DeleteMunchen - LH would welcome that happily so that JU and not LH subsidises the route for transfer pax from BEG onto LH in MUC.
Warsaw - very limited O&D market, most pax BEG-WAW are transfers onto LOT, very limited possibility to bring transfer pax from Warsaw to BEG due to much smaller network of JU compared to LOT, unless at dirty cheap prices
Istanbul - exactly the same as Warsaw
Ohrid, and Lviv are probably good choices.
DeletePlovdiv is only about 1 1/2 - 2 hr drive to SOF, so it might be interesting since there are no direct flights. But then again, Varna didn't work out.
How things looked different for Air Serbia back then:
DeleteAir Serbia to retire Boeing fleet by 2020
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/11/air-serbia-to-retire-boeing-fleet-by.html
Air Serbia to replace ATRs over next three years (from April 2015)
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2015/04/air-serbia-to-replace-atrs-over-next.html
Air Serbia considering regional fleet options
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/07/air-serbia-considering-regional-fleet.html
Plovdiv would be an interesting addition .
DeleteIt has nearly half a million inhabitants and is becoming more and more attractive for foreign businesses which open a lot of facilities.
Also there is Stara Zagora with over hundred thousand inhabitants .
Many people emigrated to Western Europe and would have a more convenient travel with Air Serbia without the hassle of driving to Sofia .
The Atr is the perfect aircraft for this route .
^Ahahahaha 😂
DeleteAnon 16:09 are you a bit nervozan that Air Serbia is booming?
Why would anyone be 'a bit nervozan' when it's clear that Air Serbia has those issues firmly under control, they are replacing fleet ahead of previously mentioned schedules and they are on the path of having one of youngest fleets in the region? No one needs to have such thoughts, and if you do, please contain yourself. It's all good, relax, have a deep breath and focus on positive thoughts about the winter network 'booming'.
DeleteTriggered.
DeleteAnon @16:29 good points.
DeleteI think AS should aim to have excellent coverage of the Balkans. It's not bad so for now.
Possibly a few more destinations in Romania.
You are right anon 17.09. We should all be more hatefull and bitter like you and spit at Air Serbia for growing its winter network.
DeleteYou are wrong anon 17:14. I care more about Air Serbia than you. Only those that don't give a f*** about Air Serbia are not concerned at all about other issues like fleet replacement delays.
DeleteJust because VAR was discontinued doesn't mean they can't resume flights.
DeleteThe airport saw the arrival of 2 W6 planes and TK became very aggressive especially in summer.
OS increased capacity and been flying for decades.
JU can easily offer connections to SVO a popular route in VAR and KRR too.
The only issue is to avoid those late night arrivals. The previous BEG-VAR schedule was not the best. They can apply the BEG-SOF one, which hasn't moved since the route was launched in 2014.
Here is a quick reminder:
JAT last operated this route in July 1992
eff 30MAR14 Belgrade – Sofia 1 daily
JU122 BEG1410 – 1610SOF AT7 D
JU123 SOF1640 – 1640BEG AT7 D
JAT last operated this route in June 2002
eff 31MAR14 Belgrade – Varna 3 weekly (1 daily from 15JUN14)
JU132 BEG0020 – 0305VAR AT7 147
JU133 VAR0520 – 0605BEG AT7 147
Daily service begins from 15JUN14
I agree with you Charlie - Air Serbia is so far doing an excellent job .
DeleteOther than Bucharest Romania no more makes much sense as regional airports there already have excellent links to Western Europe . The same for Varna in Bulgaria .
Air Serbias opportunity in Bulgaria is that Plovdiv is situated in a densely populated part of the country but is still too much away by car from Sofia and Varna .
Air Serbia should also increase Dalmatian destinations, Split should become daily next summer and additional frequencies shifted over to Zadar which has a lot of room for further expansion .
I'm not saying not to give Varna another go, just make sure the schedule is better.
DeleteSame for Plovdiv, give it a go.
@aetflyer
DeleteThere is some O&D demand for MUC, WAW, and IST perhaps for an ATR, or smaller regional jet.
You can't tell me that three daily flights to MUC are all transfer pax. A code share could be signed with LOT for BEG-WAW. BEG could transfer LOT pax throughout the Balkans.
Some O&D there is, but you are not competitive for O&D if you are offering 3 weekly as you suggest JU should do, and LOT is offering 11 weekly (probably to be increased when the Max grounding is lifted) and TK is offering 13 weekly. It is just so much more convenient with more frequences, that you will simply lose money by doing as you suggest, especially when it comes to O&D pax willing to pay higher fares.
DeleteMaybe not all MUC pax are transfer pax, but it is a large number of transfer pax that makes this route viable. Without them there would be too little pax for LH to bother. In other words: LH may be happy to lose money on the BEG-MUC segment, because it earns money on the next segments these transfer pax fly onwards from MUC. And JU - where would they make money re pax flying BEG-MUC?
LOT will not agree to any cc, unless it gets a very satisfactory deal re split of ticket price on transfer pax flying BEG-WAW on a plane operated by JU but then flying onward on the same ticket from WAW with LOT. Why would they realistically? They have sufficient frequences to offer their O&D pax from BEG.
Thanks for your detailed reply. You seem to be much better informed than me.
DeleteWhat would you suggest as future destinations?
Re. Charlie.
DeleteThanks for your kind words.
Only very very thin routes or routes that have very very low yields. On such routes there would be no competition either because competitors are not interested in a market that is so small or low-yielding, or because they don't even have metal that would be appropriate for the potential number of pax on that route. That would give JU monopoly or almost monopoly allowing for relatively good prices despite higher costs of using small planes.
But - sorry to say that - I hardly believe in finding many such routes and thus I don't believe the current strategy is workable. I mentioned that some time ago here - I think the only viable development path for YU was that of mid-size lcc (ie lcc using smaller planes than Ryanair or Wizz, ie around 120-140 pax only). On the current development path it will forever need subsidies to survive.
I also think they shouldn't go into too much competition on the MUC or IST route. Why should even O&D PAX switch from LH with three daily to one daily except of the price as with LH they have even much more flexibility. And I guess LH would win a price battle between LH and JU.
DeleteOn IST I think it is the same, much more flexibility with TK insteas of JU with for example 3 weekly. Would be tough I guess.
Maybe there is a little bit more O&D routes potential for 2-3 weekly on routes without competition. The only problem could be that the A319 is too big on many routes as smaller regional jets (Embraer or A220) would be sufficient. But maybe they can analyze how some routes are working from INI and see if there is additional potential from BEG (for example Salzburg or some minor german airports).
SZG now belongs to INI.
DeleteNot primary but definitely one of the most important INI destinations such as LJU.
Won't be surprised if it becomes daily in 2020...
Serbia will abolish visa for Armenian citizens -
ReplyDeleteSerbia and Albania will so far be the only countries in Europe to allow Armenians to visit without visa .
Aegean, Atlasglobal, Aeroflot, LOT and Belavia will profit from it most .
It's only one way, they require visa for citizens of Serbia. TAROM also services EVN. Together with TBS and GYD, EVN could be a stealth opportunity like KRR for Air Serbia.
DeleteI am confident Armenia will scrap visas for Serbians too.
DeleteI think JU should address the aging fleet really quickly. Lot of delays due to the poor state of the series 200 ATRs. They should also introduce an alternative to B733, this is also a technical challenge.
ReplyDeleteB733 should retired soon and probably replaced by Airbus in future.
DeleteThat might make possible introduction of some smaller regional jets. They could keep few ATRs for shortest or thinnest routes and introduce few CRJs...in total, they will stay on 3 different types.
Zimski red voznje Kroacije i Montenegra bice smesan u odnosu na AS.Dobar posao radi Srpski nacionalni avio prevoznik i prerasta u ozbiljnog regionalnog igraca.Vreme je za povecanje broja prekookeanskih letova.
ReplyDeleteGde pomenu povecanje prekookeanskih letova, to im je slaba tacka.
DeleteSlaba ili ne to je realnost :)
DeleteTo vec tri godine nije bila realnost :(
DeleteMislis?
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPfxnQM2aVo
Mislim, jer govorimo o povecanju broja prekookeanskih letova, a novih destinacija nije bilo od 2016. Taj video nema veze sa temom.
DeleteNajava je bila upravo za 2020-u,tako da ce ovaj A330 leteti uskoro za Toronto...Ne znam otkud tebi 3 godine?
DeleteKako ce taj jedan A330 u letnjoj sezoni leteti za Toronto ako vec leti 6 dana nedeljno za Njujork?
DeleteProsto i jednostavno,doci ce drugi :)
Deletehttps://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/11/air-serbia-flights-to-toronto-in-2019.html
A onda NjuJork ide na 7X
DeleteDoci ce drugi. Ja sam isto tako mislio u prolece 2017, pa u prolece 2018, pa u prolece ove godine. Ali ne vise. Ja se predajem, podizem belu zastavu ovde, pobedili ste.
DeleteNow with Belavia flying nonstop to Belgrade, Air Serbia should codeshare with them .
ReplyDeleteBoth networks complement each other perfectly .
Good idea. Do you think it worth while for AS to give MSQ a go?
DeleteI think Belavia was first, so the route should be theirs .
DeleteAir Serbia would still profit from codesharing with them .
If KRR worked so well why not go after Samara, Ekaterinburg or even Novosibirsk? Plenty of passengers in all three cities gravitating to the Mediternean, Western europe and even to the US.
ReplyDeleteJU is codesharing on those routes with SU.
DeleteMeanwhile late evening at the OU headquarter ...
ReplyDeleteThis years apprentice copying the winter timetable from last year.
Change the date with the actual one ..scrib,scrib ...ready et voila !
Around noon, before the lunch break, to be precise. There is no one there late evening, not even apprentices
DeleteAgain no flights for Hamburg, terrible
ReplyDeleteWhen are they going to schedule Toronto and/or Chicago??
ReplyDeleteNever, they quietly gave up and decided to grow Euro destinations instead. Buy tickets with another airline.
DeleteAdmin, you are missing LCA airport on your Air Serbia's destination map
ReplyDeleteIt is featured on the third map.
DeleteOk, I see now. Thanks
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