Air Serbia is expected to introduce a number of new routes from its Belgrade hub in 2020 following the launch of ten new destinations from the city this year. The airline has entered into the reservation system, on a trial basis, a number of new routes during the first week of July, although these are expected to be spread out and added to its network throughout the duration of the 2020 summer season. They include Amman, Budapest, Chisinau, Florence, Geneva, Lviv, Oslo, Rostov-on-Don and Valencia. The destinations have also appeared on Air Serbia’s website, although tickets are yet to be put on sale. Air Serbia itself has not officially commented on the matter.
According to the current, preliminary schedule, which is visible in reservation systems, services from Belgrade to Amman (JU857), Chisinau (JU696), Rostov-on-Don (JU678) and Lviv (JU668) will depart Belgrade during its so-called midnight wave of flights, from 23.00 onwards and return to the Serbian capital in the morning, ahead of the airline’s morning wave of predominantly European services. On the other hand, flights to Budapest (JU620/624), Geneva (JU470/474), Valencia (JU590/594), Oslo (JU450/454) and Florence (JU550/554) will run with a split-schedule, leaving Belgrade during the morning and afternoon waves on selected days. From the abovementioned, services to Budapest, Chisinau and Lviv will be operated with the ATR turboprop aircraft.
This development will mark the carrier’s entry into the markets of Jordan, Moldova, Hungary and Norway, as well as expansion in Italy, Switzerland, Russia, Ukraine and Spain. Once the routes are all confirmed, Air Serbia would face direct competition on three of its new services - Geneva, Oslo and Budapest. The Serbian carrier planned to introduce flights to the Swiss city in 2018 when it appeared that low cost carrier easyJet would discontinue the route. However, the no frills carrier persevered, and Air Serbia shelved its planned service just weeks after putting tickets on sale. In addition, the Serbian airline will go head-to-head against Norwegian Air Shuttle to Oslo, as well as LOT to Budapest. The Polish carrier is set to introduce a new daily service from Hungary’s capital to Belgrade in May 2020. Air Serbia previously operated flights from both Belgrade and Niš to Budapest, however, both routes were discontinued. The carrier is also set to schedule an increase in frequencies on a number of its existing destinations by the end of the year for the 2020 summer season.
wow :O
ReplyDeleteA giant leap for ASL... !
DeleteThis is huge!
ReplyDeleteAmazing job Air Serbia!
This is getting interesting.
DeleteThese are bad news for LO. Not only will JU have a better schedule to BUD but LO is blocked from expanding in WAW so they can't respond. Good to see JU fight for its market.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think this is an attempt to get LOT to back off. JU will probably offer dumping prices, get LO to suspend service and then they themselves will end the flights.
DeleteJU will have departures from BEG at 07.45 and at 18.20 which are also great for locals. I don't see anyone O&D flying with LO with such a schedule. LO will end up carrying transfers to their modest hub in BUD.
DeleteKick in the groin for LOT. Message from JU is clear: back off Lot!
DeleteJU cannot allow LOT to take passengers from BEG via BUD and must react as all noticed.
DeleteA very good list of new destinations. Budapest is a bid of an oddity though.
ReplyDeleteBEG is really becoming a real hub.
ReplyDeleteShook!
ReplyDeleteBudapest will fail. Nothing can match convenience of vans which get to Ferihegy from anyone's home in Belgrade in five hours at a fraction of air ticket price. It goes to LO as well
ReplyDeleteHoney JU is after transfers which is why they have morning and night departures. Let's say a Russian arrives from KRR at 06.00 to Belgrade and then connects to Budapest at 07.45. When he decides to fly back home he will arrive from BUD to BEG at 21.50 and continue to beautiful Krasnodar at 23.45.
DeleteAlso for many, if JU has normal prices, flying will be a grea alternative to overcrowded border crossings in summer.
JU will do whatever it takes to chase LOT out of Belgrade. I am sure they will fly half empty to Budapest with low prices in order to scare LOT away. Sometimes you have to make radical moves if you want to succeed in the bigger picture.
DeleteJU`s flights are not going after connecting pax from Ferihegy, as it is not possible to fly from somewhere to BUD and catch connecting flight with JU to BEG.
DeleteWhen it comes to vans, they have already been banned in Croatia, so it is probably not long before they get banned from Hungary as well. They carry passengers commercially without any control or check on long driving hours, drivers, vehicles, etc... If Serbia does not ban them, Hungary probably will at some point
Hopefully JU can offer connections from BUD to LJU now that they have those 13.15 departures.
DeleteJU`s flights are not going after connecting pax from Ferihegy, as it is not possible to fly from somewhere to BUD and catch connecting flight with JU to BEG.
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Huh? They will offer connections via BEG to their network. JU is not looking at offering connections via BUD if that's what you mean.
Great to see direct flights to 3 Spanish cities after years of no flights!
ReplyDeleteI hope to see Lisbon being added (as an extention to MAD)
DeleteI hope to see Lisbon being added as an extention to MAD..., I hope.
DeleteI do not think so.
DeleteIt is really too far and we already saw that TAP failed on this route although they have decent S.American network for connections from BEG through LIS
TP and JU are not after the same market though.
DeleteSo Scandinavia is pretty much covered - Helsinki, Stockholm, Oslo and Copenhagen plus Gothenburg from Nis.
ReplyDeleteSo we went from having Vueling flying seasonally to BCN to having MAD, BCN and now VLC! WOW
ReplyDeleteAlso BCN is 3 weekly from June!
...and then people still think BEG is not overtaking SOF in the next year, year and a half.
ReplyDeleteZzzz
Delete1 million pax to go.
Down from 1.5 :*
DeleteAmman! Great add <3
ReplyDeleteGeneva is an interesting choice. Going up against easyjet.
ReplyDeletePayback for easyJet launching TXL flights I guess.
DeleteI flew EZ from TXL in mid October flight was absolutely full, though it was Sunday, no idea for other days loads
DeleteNot surprised, Berlin was always a big market.
DeleteIn late November 50-60% full in the middle of the week.
DeleteLooking at the map of Air Serbia's 2020 expansion, it seems more impressive than Montenegro Airlines' entire network.
ReplyDeleteJust my thoughts about OU.
DeleteBad news for Purger ;)
DeleteMost of those destinations are for transfer passengers. Valencia for example has much smaller demand from BEG than PMI yet transfer potential is superior.
ReplyDeleteThis is crazy. They might as well order at least 20 new planes and get a new dedicated terminal at BEG airport if they plan to continue expanding like this :D
ReplyDeleteWow some really unexpected destinations in the east. Obviously Chisinau, Rostov and Lviv are mostly for transfers.
ReplyDeleteAmman too.
DeleteKrasnodar started off as entirely transfer but the route actually stimulated some local demand. Wouldn't be surprised if the same happens.
DeleteAleksandar did you fly the route to know? Or is it wishful thinking?
DeleteOSL - Jat Airways was flying here 10 years ago and quite quickly they closed this destination. I hope Air Serbia will have more success although they are facing now the competition in Norwegian who is quite cheap on this route offering good quality.
ReplyDeleteGVA - The most surprising route - U2 flies here already for few years offering cheap prices, unlimited hand luggage weight and good flying times. Air Serbia can't have good yield here and at the same time they can't count on transfer passengers as GVA connecitivity to every part of the Europe and beyond is excellent.
FLR - One of the reasons for this route might be the success Bologna has from Nis - but with subsidized tickets. It is nice Italian region but also the base of Volotea. I find that CLJ would be better than FLR
VLC - obviously meant for summer vacations. If they keep it as year-round it will be mostly used for transfers from Romania, but at Air Serbia they should not forget that VLC is not MAD or BCN. BCN is bigger touristic place and in MAD JU has code share with Air Europa that makes this route successful.
LWO - great choice. The same as KIV it will be operated with ATR during the night when these planes are available making it costly effective and at the same time bringing transfer passengers for other JU routes.
KIV - same as LWO
BUD - Air Serbia was flying here at the time it was established and was not successful. Malev was also not very successful at the time when they were flying to BEG. This time Air Serbia obviously hope that they have more destinations to cover than in 2013 and therefore they can count on more transfer passengers as P2P traffic is very weak. Also the competition with Lo won't make it easier.
ROV - being led by the success of KRR people in Air Serbia decided to bring on the table one more tranfer destination from Russia and taking in consideration the size of the ROV airport it could bring the same success KRR brought.
AMM - Expecting the results to be between BEY (that runs successfully for transfer passengers) and CAI (results are weaker than expected). Anyhow worth trying.
Wish them all the best and congratulations for so many new routes.
JU flights to MAD do not connect onto anything on Air Europa so whatever success they have on the route will be their own.
DeleteAs for Valencia, well if they did well to Nice then I am sure they will do well here as well.
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/05/air-serbia-air-europa-expand-codeshare.html
DeleteAnon 9:20 ... Personally I am a bit surprised by Rostov being their choice considering that the same is only 250 km away from Krasnodar and with good road / rail connections between those two cities. In my opinion Samara / Orenburg / Ekaterinburg or Novosibirsk would have been better choices but anyways I wish them good luck with Rostov as well.
DeleteThe cities you mentioned might be too far away to complete night rotation and return to Belgrade in the morning.
DeleteI, too, think that Rostov and Krasnodar will partially cannibalize each other.
DeleteСаобраћајна повезаност Ростова и Краснодара јавним превозом је, са становишта доласка/одласка авиона, веома лоша. Када дођеш у Краснодар мораш да јуриш на железничку станицу на први воз који полази око 7:15. А за одлазак из Краснодара мораш из Ростова поћи око 21:00 и стићи око 24:00 у Краснодар. Онда бус/такси до аеродрома и чекање неколико сати до чекирања и укрцавање. И, што се Ростова тиче, најзападнија десетинација је Праг, тако да је ово одличан потез АS. Исто тако је и из Краснодар једини лет на запад био за Праг. Још су летели за Беч (OS) више не.
DeleteP. S.
Крајем октобра авион за Краснодар је био пун. И лет из Краснодара је такође био пун и већином транзитним путницима.
FLR - One of the reasons for this route might be the success Bologna has from Nis
DeleteBLQ is everything except success! LF is about 40% medium.
What a horrible disaster. Don't know what they are thinking about Florence. The bubble gets bigger and bigger.
Delete@Mixajlo
DeleteDo you know the other LF out of Nis? Every route that bad?
Rostov is also the 'unofficial' airport for the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Lugansk.
DeleteKrasnodar serves more Crimea, Sochi etc.
DeleteBoth are big cities, Rostov is at around 1.2 million people.
DeleteAMM might end up quite tourist heavy. Not too expensive, Petra and Wadi Rum are booming, most (including Serbian passport holders) get visa on arrival -- but connections to the ex-Yu region were hitherto poor
DeleteThis is literally too good to be true and if it is, it's amazing! Can they really pull all these additions off with only two additional aircraft? That's not to mention the needed increases to the currently scheduled flights? Wow!
ReplyDeleteThe real question is do they have the passengers dynamic to support those routes or they will fly half empty?!! We all know who is going to pay for the damage.
DeleteI see your point, but I reckon they have got right. Both with this year's expansion and the big chunk of the destinations they announced. The demand will be there, when O/D and transfers are combined. I'm more worried about delays and inadequate number of planes. Would really hate for that to be their undoing after such stellar strategic choices.
DeleteSMH.... Sad. Always doubt from some people even tho JU has been destroying everyone recently. I guess some will have to wait and see.
DeleteMany delays are not because of them but are caused by ATC delays around Europe which cause a chain reaction in their network. For example AMS gets delays by 60 minutes because of ATC which means the flight will arrive some 45 minutes late to BEG. Now imagine if they have connections to SKG. That flight will have to wait for them which means it ends up being delayed.
DeleteAnnon 10:20 it is not exactly correct what you wrote; it is rather a myth (ATC) that JU and their fans put together as a good and justifiable excuse to be late. Very often FR24 shows others flying more or less on time while JU is late on certain European busy airports. I know you will dig out stats about JU being ok with regards to time and are in line with others but I don't share this and I can tell you that every flight I took with them regarless of airport / air space was delayed (some more, some less but always late). Yes I am waiting already for your reply that I flew once / twice and it happened. Not the case just to let you know, JU has a problem especially in summer with regards to keep up the schedule.
DeleteJa ja sure hundreds and thousands people wait for reimbursement.
DeleteYou obviously don't fly out of FRA in summer. LH delays are monstrous compared to JU.
DeleteCan Amman become a new Beirut?
ReplyDeleteTheoretically possible - if it gets somehow magically beamed 200km to the North and then declared the new capital of Lebanon.
DeleteI wonder which of these will be seasonal and which year round.
ReplyDeleteMy guess would be Florence and Valencia are seasonal and the rest are year round.
DeleteVenice is year-round so why couldn't Florence as well? The region is quite wealthy and the airport isn't that well connected.
DeleteI guess FLR can stay year round mainly because of transfers to Eastern Europe. I guess there is a lot of Albanian diaspora there as two companies fly to TIA
DeleteFLR has good connectivity with Western Europe, but not so good with Eastern Europe.
DeleteDespite it I do not see what JU can offer here more than LH, KL, AZ, OS, BA, LX, AF...
Can't we say the same for other destinations they fly to like ATH, FCO, BCN, MAD... obviously JU is offering something others can't if they are thriving in those markets.
DeleteThe airports you mentioned are much bigger than FLR and have more P2P passengers than FLR
DeleteDon't forget that Russians love Italy so Florence should have good connections from Moscow, Krasnodar and Rostov. JU carries a lot of passengers from Venice and Rome to both Krasnodar and Moscow.
DeleteWhy should JU care about competition? It's not like they have to worry about profitability.
DeleteI would like to see a complete map of Air Serbia summer destinations. Including charter and destinations from INI they will probably have close to 100 airports in their network. Very impressive growth.
ReplyDeleteNext time they expand after this they will surely surpass 100 destinations. That’s really unbelievable
DeleteIf you like, you can create such a map yourself - e.g. on gcmap.com
DeleteThis is impressive. Congratulations.
ReplyDeleteHoce li biti dovojna samo dva aviona za ovoliku ekspanziju,plus pojacane linije na postojecim rutama?Sve ovo zvuci neverovatno,bravo za AS a pogotovu sto pokazuju zube i ulaze u borbu sa LOTom za svoje trziste.S obzirom da AS u buducnosti planira letove za Toronto i Cikago jako je bitno da proteraju Lot iz Budimpeste.
ReplyDeleteМа та Лотова авантура у Будимпешти ће бити кратког даха. Прескупо је а овај раст у Београду ће им додатно компликовати живот. Већ су угасили Чикаго из Будимпеште и померили све регионалне летове за месец дана. Преамбициозно су ушли у цео мађарски пројекат. Уз све то, велики им је проблем то што немају више простора да се шире у Варшави те не могу ништа урадити што се ЈУ тиче.
DeleteThe midnight wave will become quite busy.
ReplyDeleteDoes the photo give the details about fleet expansion? :)
ReplyDeleteWe heard 1xA319 and 1xATR72 will join the fleet
DeleteBelgrade will become real hub and Air Serbia third Balkan airline (after Turkish Airlines and Aegean) by its size.
ReplyDeleteEurope became small for JU! After this network got stabilized it will be great base for new long haul flights
I think TAROM is a little bit bigger than air Serbia by fleet size and also much younger.
DeleteEasy does it Anon @9:39, "Europe became small for JU" C'mom man.
DeleteRO has 25 aircraft, they are about the same as JU but they carry less passengers.
DeleteWrong anonymous 16 :11,TAROM carried 2.75 million passengers for 2018 and had 74% load factor while for the same year Air Serbia carried 2.48 million passengers and had 71.2%load factor. Source :Wikipedia.
DeleteWith the "slight" difference that RO has a very developed domestic network :)
DeleteJU WILL become. Future tense
DeleteIsn't it too early?
ReplyDelete:D :D :D
DeleteLets wait until these destinations are officially announced. But if they are, this might be a sign that SSJ 100(s) are coming.
ReplyDeleteWhy wouldn't they happen? I mean we got even more destinations last year and they were all successful. This is just a continuation of something that already works quite well. :D
DeleteBy the way I don't think the SSJ are coming. JU starts new destinations with two or three weekly flights so it's doable with extra two planes. I think only KIV and LWO will be four weekly but they will go at night.
Actually this is the sign SSJ100 are not coming as it is clearly written that ATR will be flying to BUD, LWO and KIW.
DeleteI am not saying that they won't, I do hope they do. But until airline officially announces it I wouldn't take this with 100% certainty. As we all know things might change.
DeleteIt does say that some of these destinations will be operated with ATR, and certainly they wouldn't put SSJs in the system until they get them.
But it also says that increases on existing routes will be announced. And when JU said that they will expand fleet nowhere did they specify the type of aircraft.
It has been mentioned that 1xATR72 and 1xA319 are coming
DeleteI must have missed that, when Jiri Marek announced fleet expansion here during CAPA summit he did not specify the type:
Delete"Mr Marek did not specify the aircraft type Air Serbia will be adding next year" (https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/12/air-serbia-to-add-two-aircraft-in-2020.html)
It was mentioned few days on some other portal as unofficial info.
DeleteI don't think there was official statement yet.
Nice! Will they bring back double daily to ZAG? Would be nice to have more options when connecting. JU has become quite popular in Croatia.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking the same thing! Lots of the new destinations towards the East would have some demand from Zagreb via BEG. Bring back the double daily!
DeleteAs a Croat I am super happy for Air Serbia. I just hope they add more flights to Zagreb. For example for the flight to/ From Helsinki, you need to either fly night before from Zagreb or wait many many hours in the Belgrade airport.
ReplyDeleteThat's why they need those 13.10 flights they do for LJU. Maybe we see that in the future as well.
DeleteIs there demand from JU's night flight destinations for Croatian coast in summer? Could it make sense to have two weekly SPU or DBV in the morning like LJU and ZAG?
DeleteWriting this from Amman. 3 times here during last 12 months. Once Alitalia/Royal Jordanian from Trieste via Rome, once Aegean from Venice via Athens and once Croatia/Lufthansa from Zagreb via Frankfurt. Next time, it will definitely be Air Serbia, whether from Rijeka, Pula, Zagreb or Ljubljana, via Belgrade, my first base airport. Once again shame on you Croatia Airlines and once again congratulations and Bravo Air Serbia!
Delete@POZDRAV IZ RIJEKE, don't be so pessimist. You know well Croatia airlines can't take that risk. Air Serbia is not under the EU aviation rules, so if they fail they will just stop and the damage will go to the Serbian tax payers.
DeleteBravo Rijeka!
Delete"so if they fail they will just stop and the damage will go to the Serbian tax payers."
DeleteUnlike OU, where they won't even try and the damage will anyhow go to the Croatian taxpayers :)
@An.17.57
DeleteSomehow I don't see EU membership and rules harmed LOT, Air Baltic, Aegean, TAP, Tarom...., so not speaking big and developed EU superpowers but airlines from former "East" or relatively poor or small countries. They took EU membership and rules as an advantage and Croatia Airlines, with its tourism, diaspora and geographical position could have done that even easier than those countries and companies. Concerning taxpayers - Croatian ones paid much more during last 30 years for Croatia Airlines, uhljeb's nest led by mafiosos, than Serbian taxpayers for Air Serbia. And in Air Serbia, we at least see some results of those financing, while Croatia Airlines represents one of the most shameful pictures of independent Croatia, by its size, relevance, corruption and nepotism, and lost chances and potentials. Cheers!
OU should see the benefits JU had from distancing itself from EY. They should do the same for LH Group. Not like it can get much worse than it is now.
Deleteso night departures should look something like this:
ReplyDelete23.10 CAI
23.45 SVO
23.45 BEY
23.45 AMM
23.45 KRR
00.01 LCA
00.20 LWO
00.20 KIV
00.25 SKG
00.25 SKP
00.25 TIA
00.30 OTP
00.30 ATH
Surreal! I remember a time when BEG would go to sleep at 21.00
DeleteIs there a way to make BUD work by making it triangle flight like the JAT used to do? For example BEG-BUD-Kosice or Krakow or Katowice or Ostrava-BUD-BEG?
ReplyDeleteNobody is doing it anymore
DeleteTriangle routes are outdated and not popular anymore. Also it wouldn't fit neatly into the waves. BUD can be successful for JU without a triangle route.
DeleteZaista nema potrebe za tim. Pored NYC mogu jednu ili dve linije da odvoje za rat sa nekim od prevoznika i da pocnu da se uvlace u dupe Delti posto imaju razvijene kodserove sa njihovim kompanijama od Iberije do Moskve da udju u Skyteam.
DeleteGreat.
ReplyDeleteNow, I would advise someone from BEG management to hop on a flight to KIV to see how cheap excellent food is served in a few very pleasant restaurants in what is a rather small airport. Puts many big hubs to shame.
Let's not forget that on top of these they also returned to IST!
ReplyDeleteWith so many Turkish tourists in Serbia I hope we see more flights by JU. In October there were 9.713 Turkish tourists which is almost 100% growth. In the first ten months there were 96.659 Turkish tourists or 7% more.I am happy KK is out of the picture as unlike JU, they couldn't add more flights to meet the demand.
DeleteDoes the bilateral agreement between Turkey and Serbia allow for JU to potentially open flights to Ankara?
DeleteBelgrade is full with Turkish tourists, I am sure direct flights would further help in increasing the number of tourists even more
And IST is the most critical destination JU started to fly to!
DeleteIf JU can get a codeshare with TK to/from IST, they can fly 2 daily full to Istanbul (Like Aegean 3 daily and Ukraine International 3 daily with full loading factors even in winter).
Flying to IST without a TK codeshare is a disaster, it's a city of 15 million tourists visiting and 16 millions of inhabitants, and Air france and KLM seperately only flies 1 daily! Against TK's 7 daily to Paris LOL.
TK is restricted in Serbia so they can't be a total predator like they are elsewhere.
DeleteI am glad JU is launching BUD and LWO because that's a direct reply to LO's expansion in JU's backyard (TIA, SKP, TGD...). Nice to see Air Serbia open up another front.
ReplyDeleteImpressive. Congratulations.
ReplyDeleteI just hope that they aren't going to crash with such a huge expansion.
ReplyDeleteI hope they are not going. But if they are government would inject money to JU
DeleteJob well done. I assume most flights will be 2-3 per week like with this year's expansion?
ReplyDeleteWhat about frequencies?
ReplyDeleteThe article doesn't say anything about how often ASL will fly these routes.
Flew with Air Serbia to Banja Luka yesterday, returned today, mixed loads but I guess they’re good considering off season + subsidized + increased to 4 pw :) sve naj! Service was great btw for such a short flight.
ReplyDelete15.12 BEG-BNX 21/66 32%
16.12 BEG-BNX 34/66 52%
16.12 BNX-BEG 42/66 64%
Nice, thanks
DeleteI was expecting Ankara but I guess the bilateral doesn't allow more flights between Serbia and Turkey.
ReplyDeleteAdmin,
DeleteCan you reply what is allowed by bilateral?
I don't think Ankara would be allowed
Deletehttps://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/10/serbia-turkey-approve-rigid-air.html
Amman,Lviv and Chishinau are risky with the amount of lcc's started entering both markets recently.
ReplyDeleteWell JU is used to LCCs since they have to live with them in Belgrade.
DeleteAman ljudi !
DeleteLviv will work 100%!
ReplyDeletePut not inflated prices and that's all. Maybe I would add Odessa in summer too.
Well done Air Serbia!
It took years for people to realize ''region" is not just Ex-yu but something including parts of Ukraine, Poland, Hungary and going as far as Moldova.
ReplyDeleteBetter late than never.
As far as Moldova?
DeleteChisiniau is closer to Belgrade than Kiev
But still not Chisiniau on map. I think they should go for Krakow instead Budapest.
Delete?? KIV=Chisinau...
DeleteKIV is bad news for RO. They already turned ODS to seasonal.
DeleteI'm talking about 'regional' destinations.
DeleteKIV = Кишињев in Russian, Chisinau is a Russian-speaking city.
DeleteMy fault it was KBP once.
DeleteThat's IEV.
DeleteAэrologic has been advocating regional expansion for years.
DeleteWhat other 'regional' destinations do you think would work in the coming years?
Actually Purger has been doing it for years and you can read his texts. Others were probably influenced (educated?) by him.
DeleteKrakow, Odessa, Cluj and other Romanian destinations, Bari, Catania.
DeleteHilarious assumption.
DeletePurger never mentioned anything remote to Lviv or Chisinau.
What did he mention on the other hand is how now (seasonal-) EK service to Zagreb is bigger development than Air Serbia.
So much for the 'expertise'.
On the other hand every single route Aerologic proposed launched including Krasnodar which proved a tremendous success.
DeleteKrakow, Odessa for sure.
DeleteCluj, doesn't Tarom have it covered?
Same for Bari, vis-à-vis AlItalia?
I would add Napoli before Catania.
Lyon would also work.
Riga or Vilnius should be on the radar.
Ankara, in next wave of expansion.
Caucuses should be considered.
Baghdad and Tehran future destinations.
Purger's articles are available online. You can check them out and read what is written there, you are obviously not well informed.
DeleteDo we know figures on these routes like Krasnodar to support these statements? Just genuinely asking.
DeleteSo what are you saying? We need to read Purger's articles to get informed?? But if we do you call us copy-cats?
DeleteI don't read them and have not the slightest interest in reading them.
You don't have to be so passive-aggressive. Sure, Purger's had a few missteps over the years, and he tends to be a bit dramatic at times, but overall his articles are well-informed and well-argued. And he definitely invests a lot of effort into something that's ultimately a hobby.
DeletePurger didn't ever say one dime about expansion into Eastern Europe.
DeleteHe did! He criticised OU for not flying anywhere to the east beyond SKP.
DeleteAnd still nothing from Wizz. They lost the battle in Belgrade.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone has information when will they announce this expansion officially?
ReplyDeleteI'm curious as well to see if they'll cut something from last year to free capacity for this year.
DeleteExactly. Im curious as well. And will they add some more frequencies to some other routes and which. I think that Tirana can easily go twice a day, due to Albanian diaspora in Florence (and north Italy) and Geneva (and all Switzerland).
Delete90% of Albanians in Switzerland are from Kosovo, the Tirana-Switzerland market is not that big. Italy is another story though, that market is just massive
DeleteBig surprise is lack of Yerevan (EVN). Great transfer opportunity, minimal competition, no visa required, only 100-200km longer than Amman, Oslo or Valencia but shorter than Madrid. Missed opportunity.
ReplyDeleteToo far and can't fit into the midnight wave.
DeleteToo far? Did you read my comment at all? It's just as long as some other midnight wave destinations like CAI and AMM. Wrong answer.
DeleteClearly we do not have the same sources.
DeleteAmman was almost decided against because it's too far and due to ATC restrictions around Israel.
BEY which is closer is already on the limit and sees severe delays.
I am not sure if you have read your comment yourself.
100-200km isn't insignificant when you're already on the edge, that is assuming you can perform a straight-in approach without terrain, weather or ATC limitations (Yerevan is close to 5.000m Mt. Ararat). Thereby, there's not just the nautical distance to take into account but many other factors. Among those the capacity of the airport to turn around the aircraft on time. If i remember correctly EVN has peak of activity between 0300-0500. That is when JU would arrive.
All things considered. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying it isn't the priority right now given the current limitations.
If you read my comments from before you'd know i've been advocating Yerevan among other Caucasus destinations for very long time.
Well, they should consider a faster jer then. TU-154 to Yerevan might work �� Or a 747...
DeleteOr Concorde!
DeleteNow we know why the suspended INI-BUD, so they can start BEG-BUD.
ReplyDeleteWhat a nonsense.
DeleteINI-BUD was with A319 and BEG-BUD is with ATR72
I expect a massive operational meltdown next summer. JU should grow organically, this will backfire like their previous expansion did in 2015.
ReplyDeletePeople said the same about this year, and yet it didn't.
DeleteWhy do you expect it?
DeleteMore planes will be there, more airplanes will be there and KIV, LWO and ROW will be flying during the night.
Let's say you wish there will be meltdown. It would be more honest
I wouldn't be worried about Air Serbia but the lack of gates at BEG.
DeleteDude remember delays last summer. Beirut did not leave a single time on time. JU isn't ready for this.
DeleteDelays are still happening, look at LJU today but facts don't matter to some.
DeleteBeirut always had a problem with ground agent. They are simply not good enough and their incompetence quite often causes delay.
DeleteJU826 is not a problem, JU827 is.
Guess why.
827 is a problem because 826 never departed on time!!!
DeleteJU827 problem?
Deletehttps://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-ontime-performance-rating/JU/827/BEY
Gates at BEG will be quite busy next year.
ReplyDeleteQuo Vadis Air Serbia.
ReplyDeleteIn stead of consolidating and improving their finances they are going to subsidize cheap travel for even more people.
Nikad ljudima udovoljiti.
DeleteKad seku linije prognozira se kraj, kad otvaraju linije predvidja se katastrofa.
Sve sam strucnjak
Unlike OU.
DeleteWe've already seen this kind of expansion from JU. It ended up quite badly the last time around. I'm speaking of facts.
DeleteThis kind of expansion happened this year. And all routes are operating. So I don't know what 'facts' you speak of. Other than you being irritated by today's news for obvious reasons
DeleteSeems like the last round went OK.
DeleteQuo Vadis Air Serbia haters? Svi vam se smeju.
DeleteLast expansion wasn`t good, it was excellent and amazing. BCN is upgrading in June to 3 daily, KRR has already been upgraded to 3 daily. And lf on all routes are amazing except CAI where the lf is not great no terrible
DeleteKRR 3 daily? Wut ...?
Deleteweekly
DeleteAren't elections coming up? ;)
ReplyDeleteThis coming after elections at the end of April. Nice try.
DeleteАко причамо о изборима, онда, по вама, не би требало да се ради, јер све би било везано за политички маркетинг. У Србији имамо председничке, парламентарне и локалне. И, по вама, нешто би могло да се ради сваке четврте године. Али ако се десе неки ванредни избори, онда ни тада.
DeleteКоји су избори били кад су кренули са Хелсинкијем, Мадридом, Барселоном итд? Који су избори били кад су недавно кренули Истамбул? Шта се сад правиш да не знаш одговор? Апсолутно никакве корелације нема. Само они са нула знања могу да кажу такву глупост, да се линије лансирају везано за изборе. Туга.
DeleteБраво Србија! само напред!
ReplyDeleteSuper proud of Air Serbia, it seems like they figured out what works well for them and are continuing full throttle ahead. Fantastic choices in terms of midnight wave destinations towards the East, no questions there. BUD I feel is really needed despite what lots of people here say and I'm loving FLR & VLC especially during summer. OSL while being served by Norwegian is more point to point and I feel Air Serbia will do a better job with its extensive connections to the region. Also if Norwegian is still on the brink of collapse, I wonder if it has something to do with that as well.
ReplyDeleteThe only potential mistake I see here is getting into the ring with easyjet in Geneva. Bold but risky (especially if it's true that it's being scheduled on exactly the same days- it seems personal rather than in the interest of passengers and better connectivity).
Can't help it feel that Krakow (easily 3 pw on an ATR) is the glaringly obvious missed opportunity as many have written before me. Higher and higher O&D demand each year (popular destination for Serbs for NYE, 1st May, weekend getaway in spring/autumn seasons - and also growing number of tourists coming to Belgrade from that area). Local tour operators would definitely jump on this one without a doubt if reasonably priced, much like what happened with BCN. Not to mention JU would be much better placed to serve such a big population centre with Balkan connections than LOT will ever be. Speaking of LOT, it would be an attack on two fronts, not just making them rethink launching BUD but also hit them closer to home.
In conclusion, swap Geneva with Krakow and you're all set. No cutting any existing destinations launched this year (give Cairo some time, they can't all be an instant success like KRR or MAD!) and give us some Caucasus action in the next wave of expansion. Hats off to JU and best of luck!
Adds Interesting Traffic to Belgrade, also using the ATRs' nights at base for more flights, Only about 3 flights depart BEG in the night, Well done AirSerbia! :)
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