The United States was Skopje Airport’s busiest unserved market during the last normal year for commercial aviation in 2019, while New York was the Macedonian capital’s top unserved route over the past two years. Over 19.000 people either originated or departed between Skopje and New York City’s airports in 2019, according to global data provider OAG, with Chicago following as the seventh busiest unserved destination. Istanbul was used as the primary point for transfers between New York and Skopje, from which passengers connected onto Turkish Airlines. It was followed by Vienna and Belgrade. Overall, the Turkish carrier was the single most utilised airline for flights between Skopje and the Big Apple, accounting for 39% of the market. It was followed by Austrian Airlines with a 23% market share and Air Serbia with 17% of transfers.
Skopje Airport has previously attempted to secure flights to New York. In 2017 it submitted a joint proposal with the Macedonian government for Turkish Airlines to introduce services to the United States via Skopje. Macedonia and Turkey have an Open Skies Agreement in place with both the United States and Canada, which permits for a Turkish carrier to be issued fifth freedom rights by regulators from all parties involved. At the time, Turkish Airlines said it would study the proposal and expressed interest in the potential service. "Turkish Airlines is one of the world's leading carriers. We believe that there is a chance that, for the first time, Skopje could have an intercontinental service that would cover the needs of Macedonians living abroad. It would also greatly increase passenger numbers at Skopje Airport and would help turn it into a regional hub", the Macedonian government said at the time.
Overall, 48.525 passengers flew between Skopje and points in the United States in 2019. New York retained its position as the busiest unserved route from the Macedonian capital in 2020 as well, although with significantly fewer passengers due to the coronavirus pandemic. Unlike many in Europe, Macedonian citizens are permitted entry into the States with a valid visa but must not have transferred through a country that is a member of the Schengen Zone. Prior to the pandemic, Skopje Airport’s operator said, "As TAV Airports, we are actively promoting both Skopje and Ohrid airports in various fields in order to attract new airlines and expand the route network and passenger numbers. We have always established close relationships with our airline clients through our world-wide airport operations. This is also the case in Macedonia, and we are ready to provide the utmost support to an airline which would consider flying transatlantic from Skopje. Skopje Airport is operationally capable to handle such transatlantic flights and ready to support carriers which would consider operating. A nonstop flight to North America would lead to additional feeder flights from the Balkan region to Skopje. The airport would attract many passengers from surrounding countries".
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Interesting. New York seems to be in demand from most ex-Yu airports.
ReplyDeleteI have to ask how would Balkan connectivity be improved if for example TK operates these flights to the US. Unless TK bases planes in Skopje and starts flying to other Balkan countries (which would be difficult in securing fifth freedom rights), how would this happen?
ReplyDeleteIs Turkish still involved in the Albanian airline venture?
DeleteOf course they are
DeleteOk I don't think there is a chance of it happening but with flights from Skopje to North America, it could serve Albanian and Kosovo passengers too and that market is quite big.
ReplyDeleteIf that happened then it would kill Austrian Airlines in both SKP and PRN.
DeleteWould people from northern Greece also use these potential flights?
DeleteHighly doubt, someone would have to drive across the border to pic them up. They can use Emirates (and other possible carriers that will be flying to Athens) and then just pop on an Aegean/Sky Express flight to Thess/Kavala/Alexandroupoli.
DeleteWould have thought Air Serbia would have a bigger share of transfer traffic.
ReplyDeleteAir Serbia doesn't offer competitive times out of SKP
DeleteMaby JU can try BEG-SKP-JFK-SKP-BEG.
DeleteSuch a routing would not benefit passengers from Serbia and I doubt they would do that just to accommodate passengers from Macedonia. What they should do is actually work on the timing to offer a seamless transfer to and from Skopje for the US flights.
Delete@Anonymous09:23
DeletePerhaps JU can try BEG-SKP-PRN-TGD-SJJ-ZAG-LJU-JFK-BEG.
That would mean they "clean up" the ExYU market completely.
Goes to show how strong Turkish Airlines is in Skopje.
ReplyDeleteYes you are right. Nobody is using AirSerbia for NewYork from Skopje, everyone uses Turkish Airlines for North and South America and for asia too. Qatar Airways And FlyDubai are not that much used for Asia transfers, mostly for Australia. And if Turkish Airlines launches flights to Australia, then Qatar will deffenetly terminate skopje service.
DeleteGosh the TK fanatic again :D
DeleteTK is not going to launch flights to Australia. It's too expensive.
DeleteImagine u macedonia finshes the highway with Kosova
DeleteKosova already finished 500 milioj dollar bestifull highway all way to mecedonian border
And macedonia dont do anything for it
Theyre just postponing and keep going
They losing 300k albanian travelers which live in new york area in usa
70k of them visit kosova every year
If macedonia finishes the highway which connect skopje and prishtina
People from prishtina and other cities around can cone to skopje airport under 1 hour and 15 min
And us start direct flight to new tork from skopje from april all way to novemeber with turkish will be awesome
So... 19.053 one-way passengers equals to:
ReplyDelete- 52 one-way passenger per day (both from the US and North Macedonia)
- 26 0ne-way passengers (from one of the cities) per day
If all passengers would take this direct flight, and noone took the transfers... you would have a full flight every 10 days?
Wow, the market!
That's just O&D to one city. The assumption is that if flights start you get traffic from other US cities as well.
DeleteThese numbers don't include people who for example, pick up their luggage and then check in for another flight (say Wizz flight)
DeleteBEG-JFK O&D before flights started was just above 30,000. Now they handle over 70,000.
DeletePRN which had flights to JFK has fewer O&D passengers than Skopje.
DeleteOTP and SOF can't support flights to the US, but SKP will... Interesting :D
DeleteThere are enough passengers from Skopje for summer flights to the USA.
DeleteI remember in some haze that Skopje used to have charters to Toronto. Can anyone remember that?
ReplyDeleteI don't remember there being flights between Toronto and Skopje. When was this?
DeleteToronto! Im surprised YYZ is not in the top ten
DeleteThere use yo be charters in the late 70's and early 80's with JAT. Once per week with B707. Yugotours was selling them.
Delete@ Anonymous at 11:13
DeleteToronto was thirteenth busiest.
interesting and thanks!
DeleteTrue. There were B707 charters SKP to YYZ, same as for example ZAG to YVR, but speaking of SKP and long-haul, there is another very interesting fact people usually don't know about : Regular flights from Sydney - Singapore - Kuwait used to land in SKP once weekly on B707 approximately 1975-1980. On departure, flights were from BEG only, but operated once weekly from both SKP and OHD to BEG with same Australian flight number, 600 if I remember well, international flight status and only one hour transit time.
DeleteYes You remember very well.
DeleteSeems everyone wants to have flights to the US.
ReplyDeleteIt is fast being replaced by flights to China.
DeleteNow it makes sense why JU launched New York over Chicago. I guess the demand from neighboring countries for JFK was large so they recognized they could get suitable feed.
ReplyDeleteThat and I guess JFK is better connected to the rest of North America?
Delete"A nonstop flight to North America would lead to additional feeder flights from the Balkan region to Skopje."
ReplyDeleteThat would only be true if a strong Macedonian national airline started such transatlantic services. Or maybe a new Wizzair long haul company based in MK that also had to introduce transfer possibilities.
Turkish airlines can do that
DeleteEasyyy
No need other airliners or national
Airline
1 a week flight to jfk
I wouldn't be surprised if TK starts these flights one day, especially if they get some form of subsidies from the government or TAV.
ReplyDeleteSooner or later TAV will finally make some deal with TK in Macedonia. They have been trying to get them on board for the new national airline.
Deleteforget it. That was a populist dream among two leaders which stopped when one of them "moved" to BUD.
DeleteIts more wisely for TAV to get Pegasus start something like Pegasus MK (like they did Pegasus Asia where they have a share of 49%).It suits the market more
Interesting. Does Pegasus Asia still fly? Where were they based?
DeleteOh did they stop? had no clue
Deletebut the idea od Pegasus MK is more appealing to me
Pegasus bought a 49% share in a Kyrgyz company Air Manas and rebranded as Pegasus Asia. But as I believe Pegsaus has exited the venture and the company is called Air Manas now again.
DeleteBut yes, Pegasus MK would be interesting.
Maybe it’s time for Air France to launch SKP as they are flying daily to JFK, ORD and IAD (+ US airlines codesharing )
ReplyDeleteMoreover, it will add a route to Paris CDG and finally bring a legacy airline in SKP
+1
DeleteAnd I'm sure there is a lot of demand to Paris as well.
DeleteDoes AF fly to Detroit? Thats one key city when youre talking about macedonian diaspora
DeleteOf course there’s demand but the only issue if AF would come to launch SKP will be the price : from BEG they are never under 200€ ( return ticket )
DeleteYes they do. Not every day for the moment but only 3pw ( AF378 )
DeleteThey do fly to Detroit according wiki.
Deletea HOP Embraer should do with their bigger network from CDG in comparison to VIE
Cheers.
DeleteIts bizzare because Aéroports de Paris is de-facto in charge of SKP through TAV of course which they bought recently
I’d rather see an A319/A320 instead of their Embraer simply because the flight between CDG and SKP is 3 hours long and AF doesn’t send their Embraer fleet when it’s more than 2hrs
DeleteAgree, it's time for Air France to cone to Skopje. Did they ever fly to SKP in the past?
DeleteI don’t think AF flew to Skopje before.
DeleteGiven that a lot of main European airports aren’t linked with SKP, maybe it would be better if a new Macedonian national airline was established and then flying to cities like CDG MUC FRA OSL BRU FCO ARN VIE
We will never launch Macedonian national carrier. We already support WizzAir and it is very difficult to start that procedure for launching an airline, i dont believe that our airline will ever be launch again. In the past we had Avioimpex which collapsed just becouse of coruption and politics.
DeleteFirst connect with the European continent and then connect with North America. Priorities please.
ReplyDelete+100
DeleteHypothetically what could the frequencies of flights from Macedonia to US be?
ReplyDeleteSeasonal May to September 2x per week.
DeleteA legacy airline should definitely launch SKP route such as Air France as Wizz suspended Paris until March and also because CDG is a big hub for American routes
ReplyDeleteAF is flying daily to JFK and 3pw to MIA, ORD, DTW and IAD
With current entry ban into US from Schengen countries and those transferring through Schengen countries there would be little use of those connections.
DeleteYes but that ban does not apply to US citizens and I assume majority of Macedonians living in US are US citizens.
Deletewow i didnt expect TK's 39% New york share
ReplyDeleteAustrian had its best year in SKP in 2019 (according pax numbers). I can imagine they dominate the west europe transfer markets because they are significantly cheaper then TK on these routings
The big question is what happens with Austrian after Covid. This pandemic has really hurt them. I think the worst out of all LH group airlines.
Deletewe will see but LH is not gonna give their ExYu dominance to some other player
DeleteIt would be nice if LH started flying to Skopje.
DeleteWhere is the Macedonian diaspora in the US located?
ReplyDeleteChicago and Detroit.
Deletefollowed by New Jersey
DeleteThose figures are probably high because of the huge Albanian diaspora in NYC. Plus, SKP still lacks basic and important primary destinations in Europe. No AMS, CDG, MUC and both DXB and DOH are lost so really wondering how a SKP-JFK route can survive.
ReplyDeleteFact is, TK and OS will take great advantage as both carriers have plenty of flights to NYC.
The article says five of the top 10 unserved routes from Skopje are in Europe. I'm guessing the three European cities you listed are there (I do not think Beauvais is considered as Paris).
Deletemissed opportunity for British Airways: JFK in first position and supposedly LHR at second place in the unserved routes rankings ...
ReplyDeleteeven Ohrid has (pre-pandemic) year long two weekly connection to London area. Wizz is flying in march 4-5 weekly from SKP.
It's odd BA launched seasonal Pristina over Skopje.
DeleteBecause there is probably bigger point to point demand. The Pristina flights from London don't actually connect onto anything
DeleteAnd they also operate just once per week
DeleteSerbia and Croatia are the only two countries in Ex Yu that can sustain long haul traffic.
ReplyDeleteFor now
DeleteWell, obviously for now. One day Losinj may sustain long haul traffic for all we know
DeleteWith doubly daily flights from SKP, one that arrives in BEG at 6am and another at afternoon vawe at 4pm I think that Air Serbia would have much better market share in Macedonia
ReplyDeleteTrue dat.
DeleteHopefully will happen once the plague passes.
The best thing that could happen to Skopje is if Wizz Air starts transatlantic flights :)
ReplyDeleteKeep calm and wait for the A321 XLR :D :D
DeleteIt was exactly my thought. Wizz is geting the A321 XLR with range of 8'700km. Skopje-New-York is about 7'500km. In such a plane will be around 200 seats, that mean a max. capacity of around 40'000 passanger in two weekly flights. It's absolutely possible, especially with wizz-prices, like 300-400 Euro both ways. I hope it comes true
DeleteAt this point I don't think that Skopje has the potential to sustain a long route like that, even if there was no corona.
ReplyDeleteNever say never
DeleteNo one said there should be flights. It's just the busiest unserved route.
DeleteCan the new A321XLR be used on this route?
ReplyDeleteI think it wouldn't be able to make it.
DeleteActually my mistake. I checked the range and the actual distance. It could reach Skopje from New York.
Deletewondering who the asian one is in the Top 10??? some turkish city (Izmir) or TLV would be my first guesses
ReplyDeleteMost likely a Turkish city.
DeleteAnkara? Antalya? Izmir?
Deletetheres stil 20% that have flown with other airlines. Probably LOT comes in at number4. Swiss could have few digits as well
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm pretty sure LOT takes quite a few passengers to the US and Canada.
DeleteInteresting stats. Thank you.
ReplyDeletewould be amazing to have flights from NYC to SKP as it would cut several hours in travel time flying to Istanbul then coming back to Skopje. Maybe with large Balkan diaspora living in NYC tri state area it can happen.
ReplyDeleteFingers crossed
DeleteIn curious what's the usual connecting time for SKP-JFK via IST?
DeleteIt would make more sense to launch KBP-SKP-JFK with Ukraine International or DXB-SKP-ATH similar to what EK did in ATH.
DeleteLol
DeleteAir Serbia should do more to capture greater share of US bound market from Skopje
ReplyDeleteIt does not seem to be a priority for them.
DeleteWith so many European destinations listed in top 10, the moral of the story is that Macedonia needs a new MAT.
ReplyDeleteWith 14 attempts during the last 30 years, I don't think this is likely to happen:
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_airlines_of_North_Macedonia
Macedonia diaspora is 90 percent albanians from macedonia
ReplyDelete17.000 from debar located on staten island new york
And new yersey and connecticut
Than albanians from struga and kicevo total 30.000
Located in connecticut new yersey and Chicago and some texas
And another 10.000 are albanians from prespa ohrid skopje and tetovo
Total 65.000 or almost 4 percent of macedonian population
Plus macedonian muslim are around 5k people in state of connecticut new york new yersey
But now with new road starting from debar in macedonia to tirana albania
Will take one hour 20 min to go to tirana airport
And 2023 tirana starts direct flight in new York
They starting new terminal and extanding the runway to 32000 metters plus putting landing technology on clouds
With that all albanians from struga ohrid kicevo debar all way to tetovo will fly to tirana
The only way to save this 60.000 potential client is to build highway debar-gostivar and finish ohri-gostivar highway
Macedonian goverment dont care about regions when is majority albanians
Or 37 percent of the statements
Theyre 65k albanians from macedonia live in usa and around 7k macedonian muslims
ReplyDeleteAlbanians 99 percent of them never will fly with serbia
I dont hate people
But is trauma of war still
Stuck on people mind
And lot of people complaining that serbian authoritys on belgrade treating them like 3rd level citizens and treating them like ter.orists