Weekly frequency |
Notes |
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Amsterdam |
9 |
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Athens |
10 |
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Barcelona |
3 |
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Bari |
3 |
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Banja Luka |
2 |
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Berlin |
6 |
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Brussels |
2 |
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Bologna |
3 |
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Bucharest |
6 |
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Copenhagen |
5 |
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Dusseldorf |
7 |
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Dubrovnik |
5 |
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Frankfurt |
7 |
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Hanover |
3 |
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Istanbul |
7 |
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Larnaca |
8 |
|
Ljubljana |
11 |
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London Heathrow |
9 |
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Lyon |
2 |
|
Madrid |
2 |
|
Milan |
7 |
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Moscow |
8 |
|
New York |
6 |
|
Nuremberg |
2 |
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Niš |
4 |
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Oslo |
5 |
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Paris |
14 |
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Palma |
2 |
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Podgorica |
21 |
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Prague |
4 |
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Pula |
3 |
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Rome |
7 |
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Rijeka |
2 |
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Salzburg |
3 |
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Sarajevo |
7 |
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Sochi |
2 |
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Sofia |
6 |
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Skopje |
10 |
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Split |
5 |
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Stockholm |
5 |
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St Petersburg |
2 |
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Stuttgart |
4 |
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Tirana |
11 |
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Tivat |
44 |
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Thessaloniki |
8 |
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Trieste |
2 |
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Valencia |
2 |
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Venice |
3 |
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Vienna |
14 |
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Zadar |
3 |
|
Zagreb |
7 |
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Zurich |
21 |
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It's nice to see how well Oslo has developed for them. Seems to have been one of the successful new route launches in the last couple of years, along with Istanbul.
ReplyDelete*one of the most successful
DeleteAnd they managed to do it with the competition.
DeleteIt could go to daily next summer.
DeleteInterestingly DY also has more flights to Oslo than they did before Covid.
DeleteIt is time for 2 weekly from INI as of next summer.
DeleteNo surprised about Larnaca being operated above pre Covid levels. I believe it is being filled with Russian passengers.
ReplyDeletebut those Russian passengares have to come somehow to Belgrade first. How? With those 8 Moscow flights per week?
DeleteFares to LCA are out of this world! If you want a daytime flight get ready to pay up to €350 one way without luggage. Night flights are somewhat cheaper (around 150 Euros) but you have to have a ride at the airport as there is no longer a nighttime intercity bus.
DeleteMonday morning flight is mostly sold out as it connects onto Sochi and Moscow. Others connect onto Moscow.
Eight weekly is still not enough given how big demand is. Even Wizz Air is full, I know some people who flew with them and they said flights were sold out. Cyprus has become quite popular during covid as they were mostly open to Serbian travelers.
LCA is booming right now. The other day even OS sent the B772 over there.
Wonder how Wizz is performing on BEG=LCA route. I'm guessing many travelling point to point migrated to them.
DeleteI'm just happy that JU finally operates day flights to Larnaca as well. Used to be all night flights in the past at ungodly hours.
DeleteMostly open?
DeleteThey had one of the most stringest requirements on the continent.
No. Once the first covid year passed, Cyprus more or less relaxed their entry requirements for Serbs. There were short periods of time when entry from Serbia was blocked but those didn't last more than three months.
DeleteCyprus was among the first countries to accept Sinopharm after the EU gave its green light.
Like I said, only the first covid year was problematic, after that it was more or less ok with short periods of time as the exception. Vaccinated passengers could have entered the island without problems for a while now.
Judging by Wizz Air's fares to LCA they seem to be doing very well. Good luck finding a BEG-LCA fare until mid-September for less than €250 without luggage (Sunday flights). Seems like many tour operators are working with them.
O&D market seems to be booming. Who knows, maybe we get someone like TUS next year.
Wizz was sold out on most of the flights recently. The fares are skyrocketing.
DeleteSerbia definitely can't get enough of Wizz Air! We need more of it right now!
DeleteYous talk'in like Wizz is a drug man.
DeleteIf you think about it they kinda are. People book flights with them and get to feel fantastic! Especially now when they are expanding in BEG so many destinations like MLA, NCE, BCN, LCA... are finally accessible to your average Serb. JU was too expensive because they don't care because the government will bail them out every year.
DeleteJU isn't a ULCC as is Wizz. It would be the same expecting LH to offer 10€ fares just because FR does it as well. Add in luggage and JU and Wizz are typically similarly priced. JU's base prices are definitely on the higher end, but they have lately had some fairly acceptable prices, especially on the regional routes. Currently they have a promo for flights out to destinations in the region for around 80€ return (no luggage). It would be nice to see these prices more often.
DeleteI used their promo recently for BEG-SPU, 7.300 din with luggage one way, 6.500 din would of been the price by bus with 11h 30mins scheduled travel time. Price difference was less than 7€ for those not familiar with Dinars. I think they are listening to these comments about them being expensive as they are not as expensive as they used to be, but they can still do better. Alot better.
Prices are a function of supply vs. demand, not customer feedback.
Delete@Vlad
DeleteIn theory you are quite correct. However, do you honestly believe that JU's ticket prices are following those principles?
Hopefully they can handle it with the fleet. Their operations have normalized since the problems they had over the weekend..
ReplyDeleteAnother ATR72-600 should be arriving in around 2 weeks.
ReplyDeleteAdd to that charters, it is impressive
ReplyDeleteWhat about Rostov and Krasnodar?
ReplyDeleteMoved to August due to closure of both airports. Out of their control.
DeleteThey should increase Moscow to 10 at least.
Delete14 would be better because of huge transfer market.
DeleteWho would have thought Croatia would be in the top 5 of their markets in terms of frequnecies.
ReplyDeleteThink more about LJU, It's in the top 10 with 11 flights per week and for LJU, it represents 1/10 of ALL the flights they have!!!!
DeleteI seem to remember that LJU had 17 pw a few years back.
DeleteIt did in the aftermath of Adria's bankruptcy
DeleteAnd how long did that last? Was it covid that slowed it down?
DeleteIt lasted until Covid started. In winter 2019/2020 (until Covid) they had those 17 weekly flights
Deletehttps://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/10/winter-201920-air-serbia.html
Thanks bro.
DeleteI think a lack of ATR's is holding JU back from bringing LJU to at least 14 pw. Another ATR seems to be in the process of joining the JU fleet (OE-LKR) at the moment.
DeleteIt would be great to have both DBV and SPU operate at least an entire season, perhaps SPU year round. I think we will see the 2 destinations go double daily on some days in the next year or 2.
Bring back Cairo and Tel Aviv and start Amman!
ReplyDeleteStill don't get all these Italian routes.
ReplyDeleteBefore covid, Italy was either 4th or 5th most popular tourist destination for Serbs. As the standard of living increases, so does the purchasing power of the local population. Many tourists are switching from buses to planes and JU is after that market.
DeleteOn top of that, Italy is a huge source of transfer passengers so it remains to be seen how many JU will attract to fly via BEG.
This spring Italy was really popular. I personally know at least 10 people who went to Italy for May day.
DeleteI'm also thinking the Italy market is oversaturated but let's see what sticks after summer.
DeleteHelps that most flights are operated by the ATR.
DeleteHow are their delays? Have they normalized ops?
ReplyDeleteYes. Some people overdramatized it. The weekend and Monday was bad for many airlines and airports across Europe. Amsterdam has capped amount of people who can travel through their airport, at LHR flights were cancelled because there was no one to transport thousands of bags, KLM cancelled many of its flights. According to Flightaware, Croatia Airlines had the same number of delayed flights as Air Serbia on Monday.
DeleteVery nice developments from JU this summer.
ReplyDeleteImpressive network for an airline its size.
ReplyDeleteAgree. 52 destinations is impressive.
DeleteWell , it's easy for every airline have many destinations with the 38% of them being done with 2 or 3 weekly frequencies !
DeleteSo, it means over 60% have more frequnecies.
DeleteAthens is slowly being increased each month. 10 weekly in July. Wonder if it will eventually make it to the pre Covid 14.
ReplyDeleteYes, it eventually will but not this summer.
DeleteNext year
DeleteATH flights are full most of the times so maybe the increase will happen in winter.
DeleteAnyone know how they are performing on their new routes?
ReplyDeleteI don't know for all of them but the Spanish routes and Sochi are doing excellent.
DeleteThis is a very good network.
ReplyDeleteTIV will probably go to over 50 per week in August.
ReplyDeleteBut why is there a huge demand and amount of routes???! I don't know how for ASL it's more important to have routes to TIV than to FRA or regional airports in Serbia???
DeleteMontenegro is hugely popular travel destination for Serbian people. Many have holiday houses in Montenegro or family there and more and more people prefer to fly then go by car.
DeleteOn top of that many Montenegrins travel to Belgrade, have family in Serbia or live in Serbia so they use these flights.
Finally many Russians are going to the Montenegrin coast this summer with Air Serbia.
It completely makes sense that they have more flights to TIV than FRA. I don't see why they should have more flights to FRA.
* than go by car
DeleteJU601 Atr-72 is departing from Vienna right now, with a delay of 20 minutes
ReplyDelete26 minutes to be more precise.
DeleteSo? It will probably make it to VIE on time.
DeleteHow can it make it to VIE on time when it just left the airport? Are you hoping it diverts back due to a technical issue with the ancient, 31 year old, ATR?
DeleteI was flying KLM last night AMS-BEG and although we were all on board and ready to go pilot announced that due to airspace congestion we would have to wait on the ground. We landed in BEG ahead of schedule.
DeletePeople complaining about 20 minute delays are obviously people who have not travelled anywhere this summer and have no clue what is happening anywhere. But I guess if you have the time to sit and monitor airport websites all day it says a lot.
DeleteLufthansa CityLine had a meltdown on Monday with 60% of all flights delayed and around 5% of flights cancelled. Mine included. We were informed about our cancellation 3 hours before departure. And it took them 6 hours to offer an alternative.
DeleteHow was the load on your AMS-BEG flight?
DeleteOh and btw I wrote the comment at @10.20. I should mention I had to arrive at the airport 4 hours ahead of schedule, wait 30 minutes in a line in front of the airport just to enter the terminal building. Thankfully I checked in online so then had to proceed to another line to go through security. The line starts on ground level and goes up to second level. Waiting time was 1 hour which wasn't bad compared to what it has been like on the weekend.
Delete10.25 Full. Mostly transfers from what I could see.
DeleteGood, I am especially happy about KLM because they are a good alternative to LH Group which is becoming such a scam to fly on.
DeleteI also hope LO keeps on boosting BEG because many of their flights next week are sold out/removed from the system.
First of all Vienna didn't depart with a 26 minute delay but a 12 minute delay which isn't even considered a delay in the aviation industry. The plane in fact landed 3 minutes ahead of schedule in Vienna. Some of you people are toxic.
Delete^ He was talking about the return flight. The fact that it landed on time in Vienna shows it was delayed because of the situation in VIE. It could be air traffic congestion, late baggage loading, late pax (especially since it's a bus gate which always results in a bit of a delay). But yes people are generally really overdramatizing the situation.
DeleteIn the end, JU601 landed in Belgrade with just a 4 minute delay and should depart on time for its next flight to Skopje since it has 2 and a half hours in between rotations.
DeleteSo much drama for nothing.
DeleteAMS, DUS and CDG have small delays so hopefully their transfers don't create a chain reaction like yesterday when some flights like ATH were over an hour late.
DeleteWhat most of the people don’t get here is the fact that departure of the plane is counted from the door closure.
DeleteGood morning ! I have a flight in July from France( Paris CDG) to Russia (Sochi) via Belgrade for a total of more than 2000 Euros for 3 people !!! What I would like to know is if I have time to get my 1:05 connection flight in Belgrade, because for more than a week the JU315 flights from Paris have been arriving more and more late, and I don't know what this is for? And for people who know Air Serbia, are there any specific things to do during transit at Belgrade airport for the flight to Russia? Thanks, have a nice day !
ReplyDeleteYou should be ok. Most flights such as Sochi, which are full of transfer passengers wait for connecting passengers if they are late on arrival. BEG is relatively easy to navigate and if you are delayed and have a very short connection, a Belgrade Airport agent will be waiting at the gate on arrival to escort you to the gate. The good thing is that you have no passport control or security that you have to go through.
DeleteDon't worry, JU's Sochi flight has not left on time a single time probably because it had to wait for transfers from other delayed flights.
DeleteSochi flight will not leave without Paris transfers as I am sure you are not the only one.
Thank you !!!!
DeleteSpasiba.
DeleteThey have also started the summer charters from Nis now
ReplyDeleteBelgrade-Oslo timetable
ReplyDelete1--4---
06.05-09.00
09.45-12.35
--3-5-7
17.05-20.00
20.45-23.35
I wonder if they get any transfers from these flights or it's mostly point to point.
DeleteFrom what I heard they have a lot of transfers. Diaspora is large and wealthy but I don't think they could pull of 5 weekly from them alone. Don't forget that Air Serbia doesn't have the best reputation among O&D market.
Delete"Don't forget that Air Serbia doesn't have the best reputation among O&D market."
DeleteYou make it sound like that is common knowledge, as opposed to your subjective opinion.
It's rather based on JU's collapsing marketshare at BEG. Their customers are turning their backs on them. Transfers are saving them from being totally irrelevant.
DeleteJU has lost a few percentage points of market share (two words), hardly a collapse, especially since passenger numbers are increasing at BEG.
DeleteKa boom!
JU fell from 50% to 37% in January and February. There is a reason why they didn't publish their numbers for March. Several high ranking employees come here and actually take part in debate. ;)
DeleteNo one said their numbers are not increasing, they are but mostly thanks to transfers and charters where people are forced to fly with them.
Maybe AirSerbia is "loosing" it's market share, but that is not because they are loosing passengers. Their figures are growing, but BEG figures are growing faster... Personally, I don't mind AirSerbia having "only" 30% if BEG would have 15mio.
DeleteHow exactly is one "forced" to fly JU as a transfer passenger.
DeleteSame here, I don't mind JU being useless and clumpsy as long as they are not holding BEG back. There are just a few markets where they can limit growth: Russia and Egypt.
DeleteTurkey is no longer on the list because TK now has political strings which it can pull whenever there is a need. ESB is a spiffing example of this.
ESB is not example of that.
DeleteESB was a trade-off for INI and KVO flights to IST.
@13,39
DeleteSounds like they're going to go bankrupt with their collapsing market share. You are absolutely right, no one is flying them, so thank goodness for all those Bulgarians, Albanians, Croatians and Russians for flying JU. Do you know what was their market share from march until now?
Anon 14:11: JU fell from 50% to 37% in January and February.
DeleteKad vidim ove komentare sve mi je jasno. Svaki normalan covek zna da ta dva meseca jedva da uticu na godisnje performanse. Zna se kakvi analiticari i konsultanti grebu po dnu kace da iskopaju ovakve brojeve. Bolje da na pijaci Zeleni Venac diskutujem o avijaciji po tezgama nego sa ovim nazovi ekspertom.
Banjaluka is stuck with 2 weekly flights. I am surprised JU can't draw more passengers from R. Srpska given that it offers lots of connecting possibilities
ReplyDeleteBanja Luka has both Wizz Air and Ryanair with significantly more flights. The Air Serbia BNX flights don't connect on to too many routes I believed.
DeleteBNX is kept for symbolic reasons.
DeleteBRU, too. :)
People now have more and more options from BNX. They had their time to act any they completely ignored it. I’d rather skip the connection and take a direct W6 or FR flight.
DeleteWell I flew BRU a month ago and the plane was full including business class. Not sure it's because of "symbolic reasons".
DeleteBNX can become extremely successful but to get there they need to encourage people to switch from buses to planes. Bus fares are not cheap and many companies are starting to charge for luggage.
DeleteWith this route receiving subsidies, they can afford to charge €50 for a return flight. This is extremely competitive in this market and they can actually hit the bus companies.
However, before that happens JU would have to commit to this market and to have a strategy, something they seem not to have.
Lots of untapped potential right there
JU gets subsidized by R. Srpska government for their flights. So I don't think JU cares.
DeleteJU certainly does like its subsidies.
DeleteNobody in the region beats OU and its devotion to subsidies.
DeleteWasn't it announced that VLC would go on 3 weekly?
ReplyDeleteVLC performed well in April but not so much after. Loads are not bad but definitely not enough for more than two weekly flights.
DeleteWould be nice and about time to start a second log haul service. Another 332 could cover YYZ / ORD and Shangai.
ReplyDeleteIndeed it would.
DeleteIndeed it would.
DeleteDanas u Beogradu vise kasne / otkazuju strani avio prevoznici nego Air Serbia.
ReplyDeleteJU hejteri na aparatima.
BEG to ZAD increased to 3x a week! Wonder what the LF is. It should be extended thru October.
ReplyDeleteTivat: 44.
ReplyDeleteWow.
Air Serbia should add some 30-40 minutes to scheduled arrival time of JU501. JFK departure delays are affecting other carriers but they pack extra scheduled arrival time to make it look like they are on time or within reason.
ReplyDelete