Air Serbia is expected to take on a third Embraer E195 aircraft, to be operated by Greece’s Marathon Airlines, by the end of the year based on data from the Global Distribution System (GDS). It would become the fourth Embraer overall operating on behalf of Air Serbia, in addition to one E190 jet. The Serbian carrier is first set to welcome a second Embraer, which was recently painted in its colourshceme in the United Kingdom and flown to Athens, where it is to be added to the Greek registry following the jet’s acquisition by Marathon Airlines. The 118-seat aircraft is now tentatively scheduled to begin operating on behalf of Air Serbia this Friday, October 20, on either the morning Vienna or Milan service, however, changes remain possible.
The third Embraer E195 to operate on behalf of Air Serbia could enter the fleet on the morning of November 9. The airline has tentatively scheduled the aircraft type to operate on three morning flights from Belgrade, including to Frankfurt, Vienna and Gothenburg. The Serbian carrier has so far not confirmed the arrival of a third Embraer E195 jet. The airline plans to continue utilising the 100-seat Embraer E190 jet, while an 88-seat E175, which is on a temporary short-term wet-lease from Marathon Airlines, is now expected to stay as part of the fleet until November 8, before the expected entry of the third E195.
All Embraer jets operating for Air Serbia are wet-leased, meaning the Greek carrier is responsible for providing the aircraft, crew, maintenance and insurance. Marathon Airlines recently hired a number of Belgrade-based cabin crew members, which are working on flights operating for Air Serbia. Air Serbia’s growing Embraer operations are in line with its plans to bridge the gap between its ATR72-600 and Airbus A320-family fleet. “We'll see how these planes perform. If it turns out that they perfectly fill the gap between ATRs and Airbuses, we will keep them”, Air Serbia’s CEO, Jiri Marek, said recently.
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Nice. I think this is the former Azul E195 that Marathon is supposed to take
ReplyDeleteYes, PR-AXB
DeleteAir Serbia needs 5 E195
DeleteInteresting how they went from 0 Embraers last year to 4 by the end of 2023.
ReplyDeleteSeems like it fills the gap rather well.
DeleteI hope they get even more of them in the future
DeleteThey will because Embraers will be expansion workhorses in the future.
DeleteSeems like they are becoming much more needed than the ATRs.
DeleteATR is good for short regional where increase to frequency is desired (TIV/TGD/KVO, etc). E195 or even A220 would be great for increasing frequency on certain EU flights. They could do double daily FRA with this type or 3x daily to ATH. Or open access to some charter options where A320 is too much capacity for the off season.
DeleteThis winter Embraers will be used to finally stabilize their network. In the past A319 was too big for many markets they served so they ended up cancelling flights.
DeleteWill they use it to open Yerevan/Tbilisi?
DeleteYes.
DeleteATRs are indispensable on the short haul regional routes. They have outstanding economics and that is literally the only thing that matters in these price sensitive markets. Moving regional routes (basically exyu and balkans) to Embraers would be a huge mistake
DeleteAnyone flown with these Marathon birds? What are they like?
ReplyDeleteI have flown with them and I must say they surprised me very positively.
DeleteWider seats and more space for passengers than on A319.
I used them several times on the BEG-FRA route. Nice and comfortable planes. Only minus point are the smaller overhead compartments for hand luggage. IATA Cabin trolley fits in only sideways and therefore wastes needed space.
DeleteI love the plane! It has the most comfortable economy seats I flown in years! Like already pointed out the only minus for the plane is the smaller space in overhead compartments for cabin trolleys.
DeleteAny photo of the interior?
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Wow looks very good
DeleteNice, looks relatively comfortable.
DeleteIt is comfortable.
DeleteGood to hear
DeleteI'm glad they didn't put in the slim seats. These are much more comfortable.
DeleteBravo Air Serbia 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
ReplyDeleteRealistically how many Embraers will they have in the fleet in a years time?
ReplyDelete6-7-8
DeleteThat would be great
DeleteGreat news
ReplyDeleteNice!
ReplyDeleteOn which routes do they use the Embraers most often?
ReplyDeleteI notice that they use them heavily on German routes.
DeleteI have noticed it too, especially to Frankfurt.
DeleteI suppose the reason is that they fly now to FRA more often and 2xA319 daily on some days would be too much.
What worried me a bit is that the E75 is flying quite often to ARN. This is not good especially now when Skavsta Tuzla was terminated. I guess this is one market where they are not doing that well.
DeleteIf Tuzla passengers moved to BEG, they moved onto Wizz not JU.
DeleteWhere else would Tuzla passengers move other than BEG? The only reason why they would not switch to JU is because they have an atrocious commercial strategy. I wonder if most over there even know JU flies to ARN from BEG.
DeleteThey won't move to JU because of the price. They seek the lowest fares.
DeleteI guess that's why TZL will continue to struggle, price sensitive markets are rarely a cash cow for airlines.
DeleteYes, I agree
DeleteWell BiH is one of the poorest countries in Europe.
DeleteThe locals have no choice than to be price sensitive.
is BiH really that price sensitive? Ex-Yu posted the top 10 airlines in Sarajevo by seat capacity offered. and the majority were all legacy Turkish, Croatia, Lufthansa etc. so clearly people are flying and not on the LCC.
DeleteThat's the reason why there are literally five routes from Sarajevo to Western Europe.
DeleteThese will come in handy especially in winter
ReplyDelete+1 it helps in reducing seasonality too as some routes would have turned seasonal had they not got it.
DeleteWhat about the mighty A330 ?
ReplyDeleteJU has already 2 of them. Both are mighty.
DeleteI wouldn't be surprised if the E175 stays. It works for LOT and it's clearly working for them too
ReplyDeleteI believe it's just temporary because sone of the E195s were meant to arrive earlier.
DeleteI think it too.
DeleteThe fact that it has its last flight the day before the third E195 enters service shows that it is just a temporary solution offered by Marathon. It is also probably free.
DeleteE175 is kind a interesting plane.Very popular in US with regionals, mostly used on over 2 hrs flights, compared to CRJ’s, for mostly shorter legs.
DeletePerfect plane for JU
ReplyDeleteStunning aircraft
ReplyDeleteSo come November, what will be the Air Serbia fleet count including wet leased planes?
ReplyDeleteIn all seriousness JUs fleet could be looking great by the end of next year:
ReplyDeleteA330- 4
A320- 8
A319- 6
E195-5
E190-2
E175- 1 (Rome, Krakow, Prague, Vienna)
Atr72- 10
It would be good if they manage ti find third A330 until end of December.
DeleteFourth is mission impossible for this year.
by the end of next year
DeleteI think this kind of fleet is way too optimistic
DeleteI don't see JU operating 36 aircraft next year.
DeleteWell this summer they operated 31 aircraft, so 36 is not impossible for next summer.
DeleteGuys, come on.... be realistic
DeleteWould someone in the know care to explain the sudden parabolic growth of Air Serbia? What is fuelling the big increase in passenger demand? Is it just the Russians or is there something more than that?
DeleteThey called dibs on one, 9 years old, A330 with RR engines operated previously by Air Belgium. We shall see if the deal goes through.
Delete@14:31 A330 would be great news!
DeleteIt is strange that close to 10 planes are wet leased in begining of winter season and no news about dry lease progress.
Anyway, Air Serbia makes nise surprises week by week, month by month.
I think in time they should consider A220s. Not straight away because of leasing costs etc but in 5-10 years, when they’ve hopefully beefed up profitability, I don’t see why not.
ReplyDeleteIt could replace the E195, A319 and possibly A320s if airbus launches the A220-500 eventually.
Hopefuly by then Airbus sorts out the atrocious engine issues. I mean you buy a new plane that you can't fly.
DeleteWhat is the advantage of A220 comparing to E195?
DeleteWhat we know is that A220 is much more expensive and that they have engine problems.
It probably has lower operational costs.
DeleteCASK for the A220 is lower than the E195-E2 and way lower than the E-195.
DeleteWe also have to consider the rest of the fleet right? So with E195 E2 they can only replace existing Embraers and maybe some A319 capacity if they increase frequencies. That leaves A320 capacity on busy routes not replaced, as well as A319 capacity on routes such as LHR where they cannot increase frequency. It also doesn’t allow for future growth.
DeleteThe engine issue is not up to airbus but the engine manufacturers.
Deletebut the whole system of parts for plans is a mess. a lot of suppliers were just caught providing counterfit parts and now laods of planes are grounded for inspection. wizz will be effected a lot by it.
What is the registration of the second E195 that is arriving this week?
ReplyDeleteoy-gdc
DeleteThat's the old registration.
DeleteNo greek registartion has been given yet.
DeleteSX-RMA is in Katowice...It was broken and couldn't be repaired in Belgrade.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know when it comes back??
Actually it was a flight to Naples that got diverted and now the plane has been moved to Katowice for urgent repairs (my guess is with LOT). Shouldn't be too long - maybe that's why E175 is staying with JU until November
DeleteSX-RMA had some serious issues with fuel pumps. They tried sorting it in Belgrade, but it requires more in depth maintenance. It will be done by AVIAPRIME Katowice.
DeleteSX-RMA had a problem with a Slats, and that is reason why he is in KTW
Deletewhat a nice plane.Very nice Air Serbia
ReplyDeleteHope the second ejet actually arrives this week. Was originally supposed to go into service today
ReplyDeleteIt its not JU's fault
DeleteActually it was supposed to come last month. That's why Marathon it's providing an E175.
DeleteThis partnership with Marathon keeps growing and growing.
ReplyDeleteThey are an Air Serbia capacity provider.
DeleteNow they need A321s
ReplyDeleteMost likely in 2024
DeleteI flew many, many times on E 190, 195 on LOT to WAW. 2x2 is great configuration, nice leg room, very comfy feel to it. Great plane for EU destination. Way more comfy than ATR, but I see point for ATR on some close destinations to BEG. JU should benefit with them.
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DeleteI hope they introduce business class on wet leased aircraft
ReplyDeleteThey DESPERATELY need to remove DAT ATR72-500, absolutely disgusting interior, combined with the noise... IDK why they don't just start operating their own ATR72-200 again...the experience was better
ReplyDeleteagree had a flight from vie-beg last week i was horrified... back from beg-vie was an atr from airserbia totaly different experience
DeleteLast night both YU-ALZ and YU-ALW landed in SOF with an interval of approx. 2 hours.
ReplyDeleteYU-ALZ landed in SOF around 22:20h GMT and YU-ALW around 23:50h GMT. YU-ALZ is still in SOF while ALW did it scheduled normal flight and returned to BEG on time. Anyone know why both aircraft flew at almost the same time and why ALZ is still in SOF?
Because ATR maintenance is done in Sofia.
DeleteThanks 13:52, had no idea. What about the JAT Tehnika, is it not working?
DeleteJAT Tehnika has been a terrible partner for ASL.
DeleteFor checks in Aerotechnic BG.
DeleteJAT technika has pretty much abandoned Air Serbia. They are focused on making a profit which is good for them but made it more difficult for Air Serbia which is why they need to establish their own MRO service.
Delete14:40, this is pretty sad tbh. I just checked on the JAT Tehnika website and it says they indeed have their own MRO centre which apparently is 85 years old. When you say making profit, do you mean they are working with other airlines excluding Air Serbia? If so, really don't get the logic! I know in Sofia, they have Lufthansa Technik and regularly see planes from UK, Germany, Baltics sometimes etc. Is it cheaper for JU over there?
Delete@15:00,
Deletelast i read on JAT Technika is they were focusing on doing work for converting boeing commercial aircraft into freighters.
and from other commenters and reports online, they said that when Air serbia sent them work they always prioritised other work ahead of Air Serbia. Thats why Air Serbia was annoyed and started to send their fleet to Turkey. its probably more expensive for JU to send it to turkey but its more reliable and more likely to get done on time since the MRO in turkey is huge and better organised than JAT Technika.
People think JAT Technika is government owned or part of Air Serbia but theyre owned by a polish company so they just focus on whats making them money.
I see, I see. Very insightful info. But at the end of the day, it would be better for them to handle a larger fleet of flag carrier of the country but perhaps they made their maths and converting Boeing planes into freighters brings them more money.
DeleteJU is annoyed for a good reason. I mean it IS the successor of JAT and having its own proper company sold to others but not working for them is absurd. Yes, I was one of the people who thought that JAT Tehnika is owned by the GoS. Do you know when it was sold to the Poles?
You could just click the Jat Tehnika tag on the right side and find all your answers.
DeleteAnd Avia Prime is Czech, not Polish.
Deleteno idea when it was sold, but the government did a lot of selling off many businesses in the last 10-15 years to privatise many of them. Interstingly the Polish company that owns JAT Technika also bought Adria Technika.
DeleteBut yh it is sad that JU doesnt have its own MRO anymore. but theyre looking into starting their own MRO centre in cooperation with Turkish Tehnic. so that should help for JU future plans. and with the problems in parts and supply systems in aviation right now its more important that JU can get its own centre to prioritise its own fleet.
Again, the company is not Polish it is Czech.
Delete@16:23 okay.
DeleteI couldnt see a parent company listed and its headqaurterd in Warsaw so it looked Polish. thats why i thought it was Polish
@16:19, yeah it doesn't really matter if they are Czechs or Poles, what matters is that, as you say, JU does not have its own proper MRO. When you say they are looking to work with Turkish Technic, do you mean by having the centre in Belgrade or Turkey? And yes, of course it is important for the supply systems and parts. Look what is happening with the Max again.
Delete^ can't you just read the actual news where all of this is covered?
Deletehttps://www.exyuaviation.com/2023/09/air-serbia-eyes-return-to-in-house.html
Avia Prime is 50% owned by Czech fund Hartenberg Capital owned by former Czech prime minister Babis. They invested in Avia Prime in 2017.
DeleteAnother 50% is owned by founders of Avia Prime, Polish natural persons, who are at the same time management of Avia Prime.
Bolje tri E195 u ruci nego tri A330 na grani 🤡
ReplyDeletePrava mudrost.
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