Amsterdam flights at risk as Netherlands cuts slots


The Dutch government’s impending capacity restrictions at Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport are set to have far-reaching consequences for airlines during the upcoming 2024 summer season and beyond, with KLM to be most affected. Air Serbia and Croatia Airlines, which maintain scheduled services to the Dutch city, are not at risk of being denied rights to maintain operations as both have so-called “historic slot rights”, however, those that have historically served the airport will receive 3.1% fewer slots than before. Schiphol is due to reduce the number of permitted flights from the current annual limit of 500.000 to 460.000 starting March 31, 2024, when the Dutch government's highly criticised experimental scheme to reduce noise pollution and CO2 emissions comes into effect.

Airlines without historic rights, such as, for example, newcomer jetBlue from the US, have not been allocated any slots for next summer and will be forced to discontinue operations. A total of 24 airlines have been denied slots for the upcoming summer. KLM, as Schiphol Airport’s largest carrier, will be most impacted. Based on leaked documents from last year, KLM could potentially terminate over thirty destinations from its network, with the likes of Belgrade, Zagreb, Istanbul, Porto and Tel Aviv all potentially being removed or reduced. The Dutch carrier has not officially specified or confirmed which routes will be impacted but its CEO, Marjan Rintel, said this week, “KLM anticipates a reduction in its European network due to Schiphol’s flight reduction plans. We expect to operate seventeen fewer flights per day during the summer of 2024 as a result of the reduction in flight movements at Schiphol”. KLM, along with other airlines, is challenging this downsizing in court, citing potential risks to its future and Schiphol’s hub function.

Transavia, which maintains operations between Amsterdam and Ljubljana, is looking to shift capacity to other Dutch airports, including the likes of Rotterdam and Eindhoven. The budget carrier, which also strongly opposes the Dutch government’s capacity cuts, is hopeful the plan will be struck down in the courts or by the European Commission, however, until either of the two happen, the airline has begun preparing for a difficult 2024 summer season.

This winter, both KLM and Transavia have either increased frequencies or capacity to most cities they serve in the former Yugoslavia. KLM is operating double daily flights to both Belgrade and Zagreb, as well as a one weekly service to Split. This represents an increase in operations to the Serbian and Croatian capitals from seven weekly rotations last winter, but a reduction from five weekly flights to Split. On the other hand, as previously reported, starting December 21, Transavia is increasing capacity on its Ljubljana service from the 189-seat B737-800 to the 232-seat A321neo aircraft as the airline begins to transition from an all-Boeing to an all-Airbus fleet. Ljubljana becomes one of the first destinations in its network to be served by the new aircraft type in its fleet. Air Serbia is maintaining eight weekly rotations between Belgrade and Amsterdam this winter season (up from seven weekly last winter), while Croatia Airlines is operating a daily service from Zagreb to the Dutch city.



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  1. Anonymous09:02

    This is absolutely mad.

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    1. Anonymous09:44

      Absolutely mad. First, they built a sixth runway not that long ago, now they are restricting. The governments are going mad! There is no other way to describe it.

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    2. Anonymous12:53

      There are environmental responsibility and limitations that are in place here. Flights should be distributed to the others airports, connected passengers should be reduced consequently as they contribute polution but not the economy that the Netherlands is trying to develop, and for locals amazing railways and fast trains will become more important.

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    3. Anonymous13:08

      London tried to dilute its traffic but it didn't work as everyone wants to go to LHR.

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    4. Anonymous14:20

      @13.08 London or BA? because all London airports were increasing their passenger numbers (until Corona). Emirates is flying even to Stansted daily

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    5. Anonymous15:51

      And why are slots the most expensive at LHR? Because everyone wants to be there and flying there guarantees you the best yields. People want to fly into Heathrow, they fly to Luton or Stansted because they have to (either money or location).

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    6. Anonymous04:24

      Before Stanstead and Luton there is Gatwick with 30+ milion pax

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    7. Anonymous17:05

      And we are back in 2015 https://www.schiphol.nl/en/schiphol-group/page/traffic-review/ with
      AMS traffic. Less movements but upgauged aircraft. One a321neo or 737-800 instead of two e190. As long as they dont cap passenger numbers AMS is ok.

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    8. Anonymous20:08

      Reducing emissions is great. The only problem is this new policy is taking a long time to implement. It would be nice to have more international flights at The Hague/ Rotterdam or Eindhoven too.

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  2. Anonymous09:03

    The issue is, if KLM does end up discontinuing or reducing BEG and ZAG, neither Air Serbia nor Croatia Airlines would be able to increase frequencies.

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      JU and OU will be able to increase fares and make healthier profits so it's actually good news for both carriers.

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    2. Anonymous09:16

      They can add bigger planes such as 320 or 321

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    3. Anonymous09:35

      09:14 that would be terrible news for consumers.

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    4. @0916
      OU can not. They are switching to smaller capacity A220. Another proof of wrong single type decision. But who cares, they will be able to add more Vrankvurt and Minken

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    5. Anonymous11:53

      They will have to increase fares as the airport has put up fees considerable. It will just spur growth at other airports in the Netherlands

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    6. Anonymous12:10

      Air Serbia could start sending A330 to AMS :D

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    7. Anonymous12:17

      @anon 12:10
      Which lead us to another circle of enviromental issues. More polution and noise due to a bigger planes with biger and noisier engines.

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    8. Instead of all of this Dutch should just restrict planes allowed to land or request eco-fuels be used for flights to Schiphol.

      Later they can see if it works and push for nation wide regulations.

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    9. Anonymous13:09

      Or they can just shut down their airports and from BRU and DUS. like that they will stop global warming

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  3. Anonymous09:04

    This basically means no chance for Skopje or Sarajevo getting Amsterdam flights any time soon :(

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    1. Anonymous10:09

      At least Skopje has daily flights to Eundhoven.

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    2. Anonymous11:34

      it will have more capacity to the Netherlands then LJU with Transavia

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    3. Anonymous12:47

      *than

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  4. Anonymous09:05

    Well some of us were hoping that Transavia introduces a Rotterdam flights to LJU and now we are probably going to get them instead of Amsterdam

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    1. Anonymous09:07

      I think this is a real possibility

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  5. Anonymous09:05

    My guess is more airlines will look at alternatives. Maybe JU will increase BRU.

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      Or W6 Eindhoven?

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    2. Anonymous12:44

      Thats what Aegean did with ATH they added year-round flights to EIN in addition to AMS.

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  6. Anonymous09:07

    US Department of transport announced yesterday they will retaliate against Netherlands and limit operations from Dutch carriers.

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  7. Anonymous09:08

    Dutch government destroying each industry one by one. They are doing the same to farmers. The government decided to kill half their cattle to reduce CO2 emissions. Next level crazy.

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    1. Anonymous09:10

      Climate changes are real.

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    2. Nemjee09:10

      That is why they performed so poorly in the last election. Dutch economy isn't doing too well and they are just making it worse.

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    3. Nemjee09:14

      Anon 09.10

      You are right, climate change is real and it has been happening since the dawn of time. Many keep on forgetting that this is not a new occurrence.
      When it comes to pollution, few industries have done as much as the aviation one to reduce it. After all, 20 years ago we had aircraft such as DC-10, B744, B727 etc. flying all over the world while today new generation of aircraft have almost completely replaced them.

      However, aviation is an easy target and politicians are attacking it because there is a lot of money there. It has little to do with their concern for the environment.

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    4. Anonymous09:25

      Thanks for explaining me that aviation in 2023 generates less pollution than in 1970. Globally. Please. Turn on Some basic logic

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    5. Nemjee09:26

      I am sorry but I don't understand the point of your comment Anon 09.25. What exactly are you trying to say?

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    6. Anonymous10:10

      It does not matter that each individual plane pollutes less but how much aviation in general brings into the total of C02.

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    7. Vlad10:30

      Indeed, and aviation in general generates around 2% of global CO2 emissions. Glad I could clear that up for you.

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    8. Anonymous10:52

      Typical for a country run by far-left liberal reactionaries. They will eventually self-implode under the weight of their shoot-own-foot polices.

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    9. Anonymous12:34

      Climate change is real but arbitrary bans of certain industries makes no sense
      Put in a carbon tax, offset other worse taxes with the revenue (eg income tax) so it's actually a jer positive to the economy, and let the market decide which industries should scale back.

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    10. Anonymous12:35

      Net* positive

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    11. Anonymous13:10

      Yes collect money from the carbon tax and then use that money to fund wars around the world. No one checks where money from eco taxes go

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    12. Anonymous13:35

      I have nothing against trying to improve overall quality of life - pollution included.

      However, as long as China gets to build complete multimillion cities with all accompanying infrastructure, just to never use it - and then tear it down, I refuse to suck on paper straws to the save (the same) planet.

      Makes no sense whatsoever!

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    13. Anonymous13:55

      China approves building of new coal powerplants more than ever. Google the articles.

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    14. Anonymous14:54

      @anon 13:55
      Coal is one thing (bad on its own, but world needs electricity). They are also deploying massive solar projects.

      But to build complete cities and never to use them goes beyond my levels of comprehension. The resources, water, sand, gas/diesel, plastics... All destroyed.

      But sure, some cows are going to destroy the planet.

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    15. Anonymous15:53

      Germany is also activating coal plants even though the Green Party is part of the ruling coalition. I always laugh when they promote trains as the green alternative but never stop to ask themselves where electricity comes from. Even France which generates 70% of electricity from nuclear plants has to use uranium from Africa. We all know how little they paid for it. They bought uranium for €13 and then sold electricity for almost €300!

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    16. Anonymous18:05

      Anon 09:10 please feel free to eat the modern insect based food thus saving the planet as that industry has less environmental impact supposedly …

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  8. Nemjee09:09

    This won't end well for the Dutch government. With reduced movement there will be less tax income and there will be layoffs. This plan is proposed by the same bunch of people who wanted to kill cattle in order to reduce greenhouse emissions.

    At the end of the day, one or the other court will inevitably strike this down but if downsizing does take place then KLM might lose thousands of transfer passengers who will be forced to shift to LHR, CDG, DUS, FRA, MUC...

    When it comes to Belgrade there are two ways this might play out:

    1. Given how well KL performed last summer they might keep one daily rotation.

    2. They might suspend all flights meaning airlines such as LH will profit the most. This might be a good opportunity for BA to step in and take over KL's transfer passengers.

    All in all, a pretty idiotic move by the Dutch government.

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    1. Anonymous09:11

      BA are a pile of rubbish. They aren't fit to take over anyone's transfer passengers. They are more like a low cost carrier nowadays!

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    2. Nemjee09:15

      Well Ryanair is a rubbish LCC but they are Europe's largest carrier. By that logic BA should do well.

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    3. Anonymous11:23

      Typical aggressive nonsense from Nemjee. How exactly is Ryanair rubbish? By what customer service metric?

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    4. Anonymous11:53

      He's trying to say that even though an airline offers poor service, they may have a good commercial model and can take market share. He's making a comparison to Ryan Air to claim that BA could be successful despite their poor service.

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    5. Anonymous11:56

      KLM are the biggest transfer airline outside of BA in the UK but I cannot see BA stepping in and flying more capacity to regional UK airports. Someone will win I’m sure though

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    6. Anonymous17:09

      Nemjee is the biggest expert here

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    7. Anonymous18:11

      Is that sarcasm or....?

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    8. Anonymous19:06

      same as analiticar

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    9. IMHO, Nemjee has an opinion and is not affraid to speak publicly. He is always signed and never hiding under "anon" brand. From what I read in the past decade or so, there is nothing we should hold against him. Any other course of action would be a rather immature slander.

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    10. Anonymous00:06

      Eight +1

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    11. Anonymous07:14

      Its usually people who are angry because they can't win argument so they attack people who write with their name here. I think they became too confident because of Analiticar who gives them permission to write all the hate they want.

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  9. Anonymous09:35

    The politics and logic in Western European countries are getting lunatic. Netherlands has become a joke of a nation and nothing but European, I am sorry.....
    AMS has I think 6 runways and room to become even bigger as an airport and has excellent transfer facilities, KLM built a good relationship with US carriers and has amazing links to North America.
    They all want to destroy work which has been built during the years and HARD work. The SkyTeam AF, KL and DL cooperation is super. And the links with ATL, CDG, AMS etc etc.
    This is the reason also the reason partially and most probably that AF stopped flying to BEG.
    AMS, similar to London, is an airport that needs to be connected to ALL European cities. Well, guess what AMS, you are doing a huge favor to LH, Fraport and next year City Airlines, Eurowings, Discover and so on and so on......you are also allowing IAG to grow more.
    Yes, SAS might soon become part of your group but CPH or OSL are no way competitive compared to AMS, VIE, ZRH, MUC......and yes, again Germans are quietly and cleverly doing it better. It will be very interesting to see what happens with City Airlines next year. Even LHR is neck to neck with IST airport......those "green" policies in Netherlands are simply astonishing.........

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    1. Anonymous09:40

      And sorry forgot to mention ITA which will soon become FRA and MUC. You can add FCO as the new German airport. Basically Germany now owns more than half of Europe and AF and KL just sleeping. Also why is ORY airport so passive? You bearly see any flights to the rest of the whole Europe. Beauvais is ironically getting more and more connected. ORY has a good geographical location in Paris and can work very well with AMS and KL.
      Dunno and cannot understand the logic of this French-Dutch relatioship.....

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    2. Anonymous11:35

      @9.40 lol

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  10. Anonymous10:01

    JU should start Rotterdam or Eindhoven, 2 or 3x times per week newt summer. E195 could be perfect on route to Rotterdam

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    1. Anonymous10:06

      No no no, analitičar says no legacy should fly to EIN or RTM.

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    2. Anonymous10:12

      Hahahaha

      Does anyone really, but really take him seriously?

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    3. Anonymous11:10

      Or Lelystad if that airport opens in the future

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    4. Anonymous12:46

      Aegean flies year-round to EIN in addition to AMS JU should follow.

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    5. Anonymous14:00

      JU will probably not be allowed to increase AMS to 14pw in the near future. In that case they should open Rotterdam.

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    6. Anonymous20:46

      Swiss is introducing 6w to Rotterdam as of Jan ‘24. BA has a bunch of flights to LCY. Don’t know what happened with those THY flights. For sure, someone from the LH group will start EIN soon. Transavia opened a small base ar BRU not that long ago. Things will shift for sure in BENL.

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  11. Anonymous10:07

    Time for JU to go triple daily to Paris. There’s no reason why some transfer passengers couldn’t be sent via CDG instead.

    Stupid move by the Dutch government though!

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    1. Anonymous10:46

      I agree but I would rather put more flights on some other routes. CDG is horrible for transfers, possibly the worst in Europe.

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    2. Anonymous12:06

      I personally don’t mind it but am aware many dislike it.

      Only issue is JU has an extensive codeshare with AFKL. Ditching that and switching to IAG would be rather difficult, especially in terms of LHR slots. Codesharing with LH instead is a non starter imho.

      What might make it easier would be if JU moved from 2D to 2E in CDG. That would eliminate any need to change terminals in most cases when connecting.

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    3. Anonymous13:32

      2E/2F Terminal are for Air France and the others Skyteam airlines only. So JU must joint Skyteam before parking at 2E/2F. All Delta, AF, Vietnam Airlines, KLM, Tarom and so on depart from 2E/2F

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    4. Anonymous23:28

      Not totally true actually, a few leave from 2E/F. No reason why JU couldn’t especially since they codeshare with AFKL.

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  12. Anonymous10:16

    If you check KlM summer timetable, Belgrade is already reduced to one daily flight. Evening flight has been removed from booking system
    Very sad 😔

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    1. Anonymous10:46

      There are upcoming elections, so the new government might decide something else.

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    2. Anonymous15:54

      One conservative party already backed out so the tide is turning. This Green lunacy in NL is coming to an end.

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    3. Anonymous19:05

      haha yeah green lunacy. Just look at the floodings in Slovenia and Croatia

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    4. Anonymous21:39

      Eco talibans

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  13. Anonymous11:01

    Killing it's industry, killing it's transportation network, killing it's energy production. Do EU technocrats fantasize for a digital nomad techbro economy?

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    1. Anonymous11:24

      As opposed to killing its citizens through air pollution?

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    2. Anonymous11:31

      They should then ban cruisers and ships from entering ports which are bigger polutants than any aircraft.

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    3. Anonymous11:39

      Germany replacing nuclear with coal capacity, I'm sure that does wonders for air pollution.

      With the so called "Greens" in power...

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    4. Anonymous12:00

      @11.39 you have no clue what youre talking about

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    5. Anonymous14:44

      Greens in Germany are not eco-friendly party. Clothing of nuclear power plants will be disaster for environment

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    6. Anonymous14:57

      lol

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    7. Anonymous15:39

      14:44, I absolutely LOVE your comment. Just 10000000% so true. Netherlands and Germany are concerned about how "green" the environment by closing plants and airports. What a laughable Europe. Then when they see strong and potential airports like Beograd they begin moaning. So sad really....liberals and green parties can celebrate in Nederland LOL

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    8. Anonymous15:56

      That's because most Liberal and Green politicians never really worked in the private sector. Most of them came from NGOs or some government institution. I don't think they understand where tax money comes from. Dutch Leftists will soon find out. Just like Germany realized what its economy will look like without Russian gas.

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    9. Anonymous19:04

      @15.39 "Then when they see strong and potential airports like Beograd they begin moaning. So sad really..." lol

      you must be the guy with the Ryanair comment that they will kill BEG's good reputation

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  14. Anonymous11:37

    Transavia: Rotterdam-Skopje 2 weekly shouldnt be difficult to fill

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    1. Anonymous15:57

      Won't happen because Rotterdam is not a big airport and there isn't that much space over there. They will use it for more important destinations than SKP.

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  15. Anonymous12:02

    Is that Belgrade Airport in the photo?

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  16. Anonymous12:03

    If there is so much noise lets close Schipol completely!!!
    Why not??? Then there will be no noise. Also, lets kill all farm animals. Then there is also no smell!!!
    And then we can go back to caves and live liie a carbon neutral cavemen while China takes over the world

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    1. Anonymous17:13

      They will still be complaining about Chinese carbon footprint on Twitter with Starlink from their caves :)

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  17. Anonymous12:34

    whats the current status on Lelystad Airport?

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    1. Anonymous12:40

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelystad_Airport

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  18. Anonymous13:13

    Absolutely doesn't make sense, passengers will travel elsewhere, and probably transfer with companies that are less ecologically friendly. This requires systemic solution, not wanna-be consciousness washing. no guts to actually tackle the problem and use influence to advocate at global scale.

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    1. Anonymous14:15

      agree it makes sense if everybody is doing the same

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  19. Anonymous15:58

    Lufthansa is probably laughing at them and counting days until this takes effect. FRA and MUC will thrive once this takes place. Basically all of eastern NL will switch to flying from DUS.

    I guess Air Montenegro was the most forward thinking airlines when they applied to fly to Maastricht. lol

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      oh nice, when do Air Montenegro start at Maastricht and which destination ?

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  20. Nemjee16:12

    Here we have it, the United States is responding and they will most likely introduce restrictions on KLM flights to the US:

    '
    The US Department of Transportation will require Netherlands-based airlines to file schedules for approval to operate to the United States for Summer 2024, a move triggered by cuts to capacity at Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport.'

    'The DOT also understands that it must balance the difference between traffic rights and airport slots. Still, the agency states it is “deeply troubled by the notion that new entrants will be completely foreclosed from slot access at AMS, without any secondary or alternative means to obtain access at AMS, particularly if those alternative options are precluded on a basis that is discriminatory toward unaligned or unaffiliated carriers.” This is clearly a nod to JetBlue’s claims.'

    Full article:
    https://paxex.aero/schiphol-slot-cuts-us-response/

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  21. notLufthansa16:59

    Aviation industry is heavy poluter, both air and sound. They still get cheap fuel (airliners don’t pay tax on it), numbers of flights just keep rising and rising (aprox 10% on yearly basis). This is increasingly becoming beyond sustainable. Whst do you expect them, to build another three runways? Train ride from Bruxelles airport takes two and half hours of pleasant trip. Who are you to be entitled to fly from every fuckhause in Europe (and beyond) to big cities? Don’t you get it? They don’t want their cities to be invaded by millions of visitors. These times are over.

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    1. Anonymous07:16

      Aviation is not a heavy polluter with 2% of global gas emissions. Stop writing nonsense. This will be a problem for NL because they will lose transfers WHO WILL STILL FLY BUT THROUGH ANOTHER AIRPORT.

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  22. Anonymous18:31

    KLM just came back to BGD, and now they are already leaving, lol.

    Yes, climate change is real, but the Dutch gov is acting totally unlogical and unresponsible. They just do something so they can say they are working for a better world. But a few years ago they wanted to expand the airport, while the climate change was already an known fact.

    And no, they can't relocate to Eindhoven or Maastricht because the public traffic literally sucks. Trains, busses, trams, metro's, you name it. It all sucks, doesn't drive on time and is expensive as hell. That's another thing they f*cked up pretty well.

    The airport taxes will be higher soon. Soon you will pay €100+ only for Dutch airport, handling, etc. taxes.

    Worst thing is, this all is happening because of the radical left wing, who usually takes the airplane for a short trip to Brussels from Eindhoven for example. How so, "climate change"? They don't give a sh*t as soon it hits them.

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    1. Anonymous18:55

      Where and how did you conclude they are leaving? It looks like they will reduce it from 14 weekly to daily.

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    2. Anonymous19:36

      "KLM, as Schiphol Airport’s largest carrier, will be most impacted. Based on leaked documents from last year, KLM could potentially terminate over thirty destinations from its network, with the likes of Belgrade..."

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    3. Anonymous19:41

      The rail network in Nederlands is excellent. Almost on par with Switzerland. Public transport is amoungst the best in the world.

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    4. Anonymous21:07

      @19.36 you got your hopes up to soon. They will reduce Belgrade, not discontinue it. I also suggest you read the rest of that paragraph. Again, got your hopes up to soon.

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    5. Anonymous21:37

      KL decreased next summet ZAG too to daily.

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    6. Anonymous21:37

      *summer*

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    7. Anonymous22:28

      @21:07, see "... all potentially being removed or reduced."

      Imo there is a big chance they will discontinue it since Air Serbia is maintaining this line on daily basis for already 10s of years. They have a code share with KLM too, and with this new gov. policy they will need to discontinue some lines anyway. They will choose to discontinue the lines that bring the lessest pain.

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    8. Anonymous22:37

      They won't remove it. They just updated yesterday their schedule for BEG and ZAG and have reduced both for summer 2024 from double daily to daily.

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  23. Anonymous22:31

    Leftist politics once again causing the decline of society.

    Actually their goal is admirable, and I support lowering emissions, noise, and the reliance on foreign oil, but this won't achieve any of that. All it will do is cause unnecessary inconvenience on people and harm to the Dutch economy. People will still continue to travel, just not via AMS.

    If they wanted to actually make an impact, all they had to do was to limit the airport only to airplanes that comply with ICAO Stage 5 standards, and to put a ban on all flights where trips by train can be made in under 3 hours.

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      @00:59:
      So you have been there 4 times totally and still do think to know it better then someone who lives her or his whole life there? How great is that. :)

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  24. Anonymous22:32

    @19:41: Who you are trying to fool? The Dutch public transportation is a true shame for already years in comparison with other west public transports, for example the German.

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    1. Anonymous00:59

      Not trying to fool anyone. I have no skin in this game. I've been to Amsterdam like 4 times in the last decade and every time I take fast train from Schiphol to Centraal. So I think I know how Dutch trains operate. Plus I've taken trams in the city which run very frequently.

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    2. Anonymous01:36

      @00:59:
      So you have been there 4 times totally and still do think to know it better then someone who lives her or his whole life there? How great is that. :)

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    3. Anonymous03:18

      I have experience in urban planning and you can believe me that the trains run on time and frequently in Nederlands.
      Soko train from Beograd to Novi Sad runs to the minute on time and takes 36 minutes. Soon to run to Subotica.

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    4. Anonymous07:18

      Yes let's take trains instead which run on electricity that comes from coal.

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    5. Anonymous12:48

      No need to believe you. Have tens of years experience with Dutch public traffic. Your temporary experience ia nothing compared to that. Thank you. Btw, it's not only about "running on time".

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    6. Anonymous12:51

      And other renewable sources.

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  25. Anonymous00:08

    Will they ban cars next?

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    1. Anonymous01:38

      Already some cars are banned from the city centre and some outer city rings. Plan is to ban all non-electric cars, scooters, etc.

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    2. Anonymous04:39

      They would need to ban them in countries around them as pollution and noise are everywhere!

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    3. Anonymous07:21

      Wonderful, let's run on electric cars that run on lithium batteries whose production destroys the environment. Or we can use the tram which uses electricity which runs on coal or maybe it runs on uranium? That is the problem with you eco Talibans, you don't know your facts.

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  26. Anonymous12:58

    The left wing is indeed destroying the Netherlands with their brainless long term "eco" actions. They want to make the flight tickets too expensive for the hard working "one time a year" vacation people because of "eco", while they are taking the airplane for all short business/gov trips to surrounding countries and their cities. The train, etc. don't fits them, but they want to force their hard working citizens to use it.

    Like two EU parlament members some months ago. Took the cars to their destination. Some km's before the final destination they got out of their cars, took the bicycles and sold their coming like "we biked the whole way till here!". Crazy.

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  27. Anonymous18:47

    To all those blaming left wing politicians and politics: for decades the Dutch governments have been right or centre right. Transport and infrastructure ministers have mostly been from right wing VVD (the business party), including the current one. And he is advocating the downsizing of Amsterdam airport, and so does the CEO. For reasons of noise and environmental pollution. Whether you agree or not, it’s not left wing politics - the left is actually hoping to finally get in power during elections later this month. The need to downsize air traffic, to end the privileged position it has and to tax it equally to other forms of transport is one of the few issues that parties from left to right wing agree in the Netherlands

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