Dragon Fly and Anisos Holding, which aim to establish a new Slovenian carrier catering for travellers between Europe and Asia, held their third meeting with the Slovenian government, revealing further details for their planned start-up. The Slovenian Ministry for Infrastructure said, “The meeting was held at the suggestion of representatives from Dragon Fly and Anisos Inc, who wanted to present their idea of establishing a company in Slovenia in more detail. In their opinion, Slovenia has a favourable geographical location for transfer traffic from the European Union via Ljubljana to the Far East, which represents a good business opportunity that would enable connections with Hong Kong. At the same time, air transport from Slovenia would also benefit from this connectivity”.
The Ministry noted the planned airline intends to launch by the end of next year with three Airbus A330-200 aircraft and obtain an EU Air Operator’s Certificate. Based on data from 2019, which was the busiest to date for travel between Europe and Asia, Tokyo was Ljubljana’s busiest unserved Asian destination (excluding the Middle East), followed by Shanghai. Hong Kong positioned itself in fifth place. That year, Turkish Airlines dominated the Slovenian market in terms of Asian transfer traffic, holding a 41% share of all transfer passengers, followed by Aeroflot with 24% and Finnair with 8% of the market.
The Anisos Holding Company is registered in the British Virgin Islands, with investments in aviation and aviation technology. Apart from the Slovenian Ministry for Infrastructure, it had previously conducted talks with the country’s Finance Ministry and enquired about potential or existing tax incentives for foreign companies or so-called greenfield investments. On the other hand, the Slovenian government is still considering the possibility of establishing a new national carrier through a Public Private Partnership model. So far, it has held talks on the matter with a number of carriers. It had previously said further information about the national airline’s potential launch would be provided this autumn, however, it is believed the cabinet is split on whether to proceed with the project and the government is having difficulty securing interest from potential private investors.
God, what is that
ReplyDeleteMoney laundering, I'd assume
DeleteThe entire plan looks very shady. going to find out in few years which members of the government stole money.
DeleteScum, same as Pragusa. Between Slovenia and mentioned cities is les than 100 pasengers per week. Sad that Slovenian govornment is so desperate...
DeleteSounds great, wish them luck!
DeleteThis is now a copy of the VLM plan, except from Ljubljana
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking more and more it's the same people.
Deleteprobably yes. same politicians and probably the same scam club! In general the idea to convert MBX to service airport isnt bad! no of plans gave an option to connect MBX with the trainline direct to the airport building... connect Graz and Ljubljana would bring a potential in second stage also passengers. Charter flights as: Ibiza, Mallorca, Teneriffe, Azores, Madeira, Rovaniemi, Göteborg, Dublin, Edinburgh.... of course all streets and in Rome but all flights in LON.
DeleteAirSerbia can't find 1 but they want 3 A332s? Get a grip
ReplyDeleteWhy not?
Delete+1
DeleteBecause there are not enough on the market in a good condition.
DeleteBS.
DeleteSo much positive Ryanair news day after day across the region, and then there's this...
ReplyDeleteIf you consider Ryanair positive..
DeleteYeah, dozens of new routes and base is negative news 🤦♂️
DeleteEurope's biggest airline that sells cheap tickets that allow millions to fly for tourism and to visit their families is a positive, yes. If you think it's not a positive then you need to think again.
DeleteWhat seems more plausible, FR operating to "connect families" or to satisfy the shareholders?
DeleteThe two aren't mutually exclusive.
DeleteCorrect, but their main mission is to make money, not to connect families. Making money will always come first. Connecting families is just a convenient marketing PR to go along with it.
DeleteSame as manufacturers of electric cars saying that they are saving the planet, even if not a single produced car so far has been fully sustainable.
Most companies in capitalism exist to make money, airlines aren't any different.
DeleteThis is considered as a real news? Really?
ReplyDeleteWell they had a meeting with the government. Don't see why it wouldn't be news.
DeleteThis is actually the third meeting they had. I don't know why the government gives them any time.
DeleteWhy wouldn't they?
DeleteUnfortunately, the government meeting with them gives them legitimacy in the first place
DeleteThis will work from Ljubljana, MNX is small for China flights but is with low prices.
ReplyDeleteIf by MNX you mean MBX.. the airport still has all the signs in the terminal in Chinese ;)
DeleteThat's hilarious and sad at the same time
DeleteThe state of Slovenian aviation.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet no one here will say anything about Mr Griljc, a competenet and respected flying enthusiast, recently being sacked from the head of CAA and instead of him the minister assigned a political aparatchik on the position that will lead Slovenian CAA as a side job.
DeleteThat is sad to hear
DeleteThis will end with them establishing some airline with a small plane flying regional routes until it fails a few months later.
ReplyDeleteBest case scenario
DeleteWe take those
DeleteThis plan is more ridiculous than Pragusa.
ReplyDeleteI don’t know which is worse the DBV-Johannesburg they wanted to launch or the LJU-Tokyo…
Delete^ I don't know where you saw these guys plan Ljubljana-Tokyo?
DeleteThey talk about Hong Kong, not Tokyo.
DeleteAt least Pragusa has a website.
Deletehttps://www.pragusa.one/
You can buy tickets if you want too lol
😂😂😂
DeleteBravo Fraport!
ReplyDeleteWhat did they do?
DeleteNothing. That's the problem.
DeleteWell if this idea with A330 gets through, they will have to adopt the infrastructure. There is 'razpad sistema' every time TK brings something large, no way we can handle 3 A330 every day.
Deleteadapt*, sorry
DeleteEmbarrassing. The Ministry for Infrastructure should run as fast and as far as possible away from this.
ReplyDeleteI don't see why. They are having talks with a private party. They are not responsible if the plans are absurd.
DeleteThe government is embarrassing itself by giving credibility to such a nonsense project.
DeleteWhy so much negativity in the comments?
ReplyDeleteAre you serious?
DeleteExactly... good if it will work, if not there is no loss since government of SLO said they are not giving them any money.
Delete+1 last anon
DeleteJust because the government isn't giving them money doesn't mean this is harmless.
DeleteWhat about the potential passengers that will lose their money because of this scam?
Visit their site and you will see every buzzword:
"Blockchain, AI, Web3.0, etc etc"
https://www.dragonflyx.co/
Shame on the Slovenian government for giving legitimacy to this obvious scam.
All of their social media links go to Wix -a website builder
DeleteHahaha you're kidding
Delete70+ aircraft and 50+ destinations by 2028... well that sounds very "realistic".
Delete@09:12, 09:18 - government is the least of the problem. If it will seem to work, they will hire a lot of people, then they will figure out 3x A330 in combination with LJU's infrastructure is a terrible idea, shut it all down because it can't be profitable, and, once again, a bunch of people will lose their jobs.
DeleteGetting the job, and loosing it is nothing special in capitalism, everyday new startups open and close + young generation is not looking in their twenties to find a job that would last them for 40 years, because it does not make sense, their interests and priorities change,...
DeleteGolden Air 2.0
ReplyDeleteWhat is/was Golden Air?
DeleteDon't ask 😂
DeleteWe want to know :O
DeleteThey wanted to fly with 737s but only 2 people were booked on the flight so they got Cessna to fly one rotation, after that they closed it down
Delete"The newly established Golden Air which commenced flights from Maribor to London Stansted via Vienna last week has cancelled all services after the airline was grounded on Wednesday. Golden Air is experiencing problems with Eastern Airways from which it has leased a Cessna to operate the flights. "
DeleteWhere were they supposed to fly to?
DeleteOh thanks
DeleteLOL
ReplyDelete..."Anisos Holding Company is registered in the British Virgin Islands"...company registered in an ofshore paradise - smels fishy from the start. I am just wondering why would they do such a crazy thing?
ReplyDeleteMoney laundering
DeleteYes they are talking with the government because they plan to launder money. Jeez
DeleteYeah they’re not it’s just the perfect plan to launch LJU-Tokyo or LJU-PEK it’s gonna be so much profitable like how can nobody ever thought about that? Jeez!
DeleteThe government had no issue selling Adria Airways to money launderers.
DeleteThe fact that the Ministry of Infrastructure is legitimising them by holding these meetings tells you everything you need to know about the clowns that run the show in Slovenia
ReplyDeleteWhat are they supposed to do? Not met up with them? Why would they do that?
DeleteIt is basically their job to meet with any potential investor in all sectors, even if they are as absurde as this one.
DeleteYes, that's how they sold Adria and paid the scammers they sold it to.
DeleteAdria was destined to collapse way before the sell was even planned. If gov were smart they would have sold it in 90s/early 00s, make some money and got rid of the never ending money sucker with pilot bosses who were demanding things every 2 months.
DeleteEvery smart business would pre-screen companies/ people before talking to them. By dealing with sketchy people you bring yourself down to their level. If nothing else this is laughable PR for the Ministry
DeleteIf they are taking any shuttling passengers between EU and China via Slovenia then it means they will hand Europe flights from LJU too.
ReplyDelete*talking about
DeleteWhat is the obsession with Slovenia being a transfer point for China flights?
ReplyDeleteThey could get a lot of Croatia bound tourists.
ReplyDeleteLol
DeleteWell Croatia still has no flights to China so why not
DeleteOmg please !!
ReplyDeleteAre we taking this seriously or just a funny post because come on…
ReplyDeleteThe government is taking them seriously.
DeleteIs today 1st of April?
ReplyDeleteThis is all fantasy. Such an Airline wouldn't last a week. The reality is Zagreb has took all the business from Ljubljana Airport and even then there isn't enough demand to such exotic destinations.
ReplyDeleteFirst two sentences you were making sense, but the last one...cmon
DeleteZAG lacks of some important destinations in Europe come on ..
DeleteZAG has no Stockholm, Prague, Berlin, Lisbon, Ankara, Riga...
DeleteNever heard of an airline "Dragon Fly"?
ReplyDeleteIt's a company not an airline.
DeleteAre they planning these flights from Maribor, that would be great, since Maribor doesn't have any flight to Asia, which means no competition :D
ReplyDelete"In their opinion, Slovenia has a favourable geographical location for transfer traffic from the European Union via Ljubljana to the Far East, which represents a good business opportunity that would enable connections with Hong Kong."
DeleteAll negative comments aside. Which are top unserved routes in Asia from LJU?
ReplyDeleteIt says in the article...
DeleteUnless you guys are still in 2019, it is relevant yes..
Delete2019 was the last true representation of asia-Slovenia traffic flow.
DeleteI guess Slovenia is the only country in EU desperate enough to entertain these crypto gurus.
ReplyDeleteConsidering there are over 80 comments on this topic just 1 hour after being published, I guess a lot of people are interested in it.
ReplyDeleteTruth haha
DeleteThe only thing realistic about this is the potential launch date, if it ever launches.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that the government pointed out that the meeting was held at the initiative of the other side tells you a lot. By the way, operating just with A33O would mean that they would need to fill those planes on inter-European routes as well, in order to shuttle those people to Asia? That is insane
ReplyDeleteThat part of the statement caught my attention too.
DeleteThey would be probably shuttling more people from asia to europe, than the otherway around
DeleteIf you have deals in place with Chinese tour operators, it could actually work.
ReplyDeleteAre you for real?
DeleteI can see it too. All they need is a really strong PR team in asia, to promote Slovenia/connection to Europe trough it, some advisors to help them obtain a visa...
DeleteSlovenian goverment needs some serious help if they think this could go through well
ReplyDeleteIz lošeg u gore
ReplyDeleteSlovenian Government (soon): "We have recently received an email from a Prince of an African country, who would like to transfer his billions of dollars to our country but we had to send him a few millions to arrange the logistics. Yesterday we performed the transfer into his account in Cayman Islands."
ReplyDeleteI literally laughed out loud 😂😂 this is believable actually
DeleteI wont read the article. the title was enough for me to understand that its not worth spending time reading something which will never happen.
ReplyDeleteI bet you my kidney that you happily went over the article
Deletei really didnt this time :)
DeleteThis kind of mentality of Slovenian politicians is nothing new. The level of naivity is just beyond belief…this story is in line with that one of a truckload of masks during covid….
ReplyDeletewould be good to see a list of companies registered in BVI that pay proper tax? There is an enquiry starting in UK about UK politicians ( ministers) with bank accounts there..Slovenia should run from this... far and very fast.
ReplyDeleteNjuz.net?
ReplyDeleteOut of all carriers that would fit Ljubljana Airport, this is the one that they go for...unbelievable
ReplyDeleteI think they should start with A380s’
ReplyDeleteGlobal airways :D
DeleteI am selling the Brooklyn bridge, it has been in my family for ages. If there is anyone interested in Slovenian government, please contact me directly. Oh, yes, I am from Austria!
ReplyDeleteEither I'm drunk, on drugs or my calendar is showing 7th December. Can someone please double check for me? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteShe seems to be obsessed with fishy investment funds. Following the 4K debacle, Dragon Stumble and Annoy-so Holdings are now in the spotlight?
ReplyDeleteVirgin Islands, Bratušek and her decisions in aviation - what can possibly go wrong :P
ReplyDeleteWell, it sounds like Slovenia will be returning with the bang. Nice.
ReplyDeleteYou are really delusional if you believe this will actually happen
DeleteFor sure will be some kind of a bang :)
DeleteLike April fools day bang :)
DeleteSad to see that even in the EU there is clear corruption!
ReplyDeleteIdentical things wants ETF Airways but to fly to China from Zagreb!
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