Air Serbia reaches agreement for wide-body fleet expansion


Air Serbia has reached an agreement to expand its fleet of wide-body aircraft this year, following difficulties to clinch a deal in 2023. In a message to employees, Air Serbia’s CEO, Jiri Marek, said, “We have taken a number of steps and recently made agreements thanks to which, in the coming months, our fleet of wide-body aircraft will be expanded. We are delighted by this development. The new aircraft will give us an opportunity to expand our presence in China, and we are actively working on introducing nonstop flights to new destinations in China, but also increase frequencies on routes we already serve”.

The Serbian carrier had previously said it hopes to take delivery of its third Airbus A330-200 aircraft by the end of the first quarter of 2024, as well as a fourth jet of the same type during the year. The airline anticipates introducing services to Shanghai, for which it has secured slots for two weekly flights, and Guangzhou, for which it has permits for three weekly rotations. The carrier has also said it would look to increase frequencies on its flagship New York service, with double daily flights on select days of the week during the peak summer travel period.

Air Serbia had initially planned to take delivery of its third wide-body jet as early as June of last year, however, the deal with the leasing company fell through at the last minute. “In the summer [of 2023] we were expecting our third wide-body delivery, however, at the last minute, the lessor decided to scrap a twelve-year-old airframe. We are seeing that just because the value of the engines. It is much better for the lessor to sell those engines and scrap the airframe”, Mr Marek said at the recent CAPA World Aviation Summit in Abu Dhabi.


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  1. Anonymous09:01

    Finally!

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  2. Anonymous09:01

    Idemoo!

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  3. ilijabgc09:02

    That’s finally coming :)

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    1. Anonymous09:15

      Yes but WHEN?

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    2. Nemjee09:58

      I don't think anyone knows that, not even JU. Even though supply chains have more or less stabilized there are still some delays. Given what is happening the Red Sea I wouldn't be surprised if supply chain disruptions happen once again.
      Air Serbia should avoid doing business with European companies as they are extremely exposed to these geopolitical shifts and shocks.

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    3. Anonymous10:03

      "Air Serbia should avoid doing business with European companies" well thats not really a realistic statement at all.

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    4. Nemjee10:34

      I guess you work for a government institution since the private sector has been shifting towards China/Asia for decades now. If they have a supplier from Europe which is becoming increasingly unreliable then it's time to start looking for one that is located elsewhere, preferably in Asia.

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    5. ilijabgc11:07

      Anonymous 09:15

      Probably mid February~March, JU will probably announce the arrival.
      Not officially what I say.

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    6. Anonymous12:15

      I miss the way he said China "Chajna".

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    7. Hope Guangzhou will open during first quarter, its high season for that airport

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    8. Anonymous14:51

      "Air Serbia should avoid doing business with European companies"

      Time to transition the fleet to Il-96, Tu-204 and An-24, that would significantly improve their operations.

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    9. Nemjee15:27

      What a failed attempt at being funny. Please read my comment above so that you can understand what I am talking about.

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    10. Anonymous19:23

      Covid 19... we are so short sighted... long supply chains is what we need ?

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    11. Sure Nemjee, let's pretend Serbia isn't in Europe. Let's shift supply chains towards China, 10,000 miles away, and keep our fingers crossed that those disruptions in the Red Sea magically don't affect traffic from China to Serbia.


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    12. Nemjee16:17

      You are right, let's keep them in Europe which is getting its own spare parts from Asia and which are also coming through the Red Sea.
      It has nothing to do with pretending Serbia is not in Europe, it has to do with a practical approach to doing business. There is a reason why so many European companies shifted their production to Asia.

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  4. Anonymous09:02

    Wondering which frame/s they got. I assume they can be in the fleet within 3-4 months.

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    1. Nemjee09:59

      Depends on the state they are in. From what I heard they are ex-Etihad birds though I don't know how reliable that source is. They need to be fixed which takes time. I hope they arrive by June with fresh cabins and fully painted in JU livery.

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  5. Anonymous09:03

    Great news for this morning!

    Congratulations Air Serbia, wel done!

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  6. Anonymous09:03

    To me it looks like two planes will come.

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    1. Anonymous09:06

      I think Marke mentioned one plane.

      "The new aircraft will give us an opportunity to expand our presence in China..."

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    2. Anonymous09:07

      Aircraft is both singular and plural so it could be either.

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    3. Anonymous09:10

      Marek said around 2 or 3 months ago that if they have 4 aircraft next summer they will keep one as back up.

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    4. Anonymous09:14

      In that case I assume the fourth plane would be a power by the hour agreement. They pay for the lease based on how much they use the plane.

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    5. Anonymous11:03

      It's would be very expensive to have 25% of your A330 fleet as a backup.

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    6. Anonymous11:06

      ^ not if it is a power by the hour lease agreement

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    7. Anonymous18:25

      For backup you use wet leased ad hoc contracts. Fourth plane should connect Miami or Toronto this summer

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    8. Anonymous20:29

      Only China destinations can be announced couple of months or weeks in advance of launch. It is too late for new longhaul destinations in NA this summenr, they should have been announced months ago.

      If they launch Miami it would be winter season only, to allow Air Serbia flight crews to avoid cold winter stays in New York and Chicago.

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    9. Anonymous20:30

      They are not going to launch any North American destination until 2025. The CEO said so 3 months ago.

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  7. Anonymous09:04

    Great news! Lack of extra A320s still concerning though, need to get a move on with that.

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  8. Anonymous09:05

    About time

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  9. Anonymous09:07

    “In the summer [of 2023] we were expecting our third wide-body delivery, however, at the last minute, the lessor decided to scrap a twelve-year-old airframe."

    So sad that a plane which is just 12 yrs old gets scrapped because of engines!

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  10. Anonymous09:08

    Air Serbia will lose almost a year of widebody expansion. Still no firm dates for the next introduction. North America expansion is not part of the conversation.

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  11. Anonymous09:08

    Dobre vesti za pocetak nove godine!

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  12. Anonymous09:11

    Let's hope it won't be a third wide body hard product on the planes.

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      Most likely will.

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  13. Anonymous09:15

    Excellent news. Question is can the plane be ready for the start of summer 2024?

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    1. Anonymous09:18

      I don't think it can be in the fleet in a bit over two months. In my opinion plane will probably be ready by the start of May or June.

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    2. Anonymous14:32

      They need CAN during winter and spring season, because those are seasons with high load...Don't forget that CAN is cheep and short connection for any south-Asian winter destination, especially Vietnam, Thailand and Philippines

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  14. Anonymous09:19

    That took a while. Hopefully the agreement is full proof now and not like last time.

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    1. Anonymous09:20

      Last time they didn't sign an agreement, but they were just about to.

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    2. Anonymous14:38

      Why did Air Serbia delay signing it last year? Could it be lack of paperwork from China at that point? Chain of delays looks like this to me:

      China paperwork delays -> aircraft lease delays -> Air Serbia NA destinations expansion delays.

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    3. Anonymous14:40

      Maybe read the article? It says what happened right before they were about to sign. China has nothing to do with it

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    4. Anonymous15:25

      They should have signed earlier

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  15. Anonymous09:22

    Nice!

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  16. Anonymous09:23

    Will be interesting to see 5-6 long-haul destinations

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  17. Anonymous09:24

    With three or possibly 4 A330s by winter 24/25, I think next year we might finally see the launch of some long haul winter leisure destinations.

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  18. Anonymous09:25

    Can't wait to see 3 A330-200s lined up in Belgrade one next to the other.

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    1. Anonymous09:27

      Me too!

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    2. Anonymous16:10

      Nadam se da nećete imati prilike i da će stalno biti u vazduhu :)

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  19. Anonymous09:27

    So this will be YU-ARD?

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  20. Anonymous09:27

    One or two though?

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  21. Anonymous09:27

    Anything planes to Europe in this Summer?

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    1. Anonymous09:29

      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2023/10/air-serbia-outlines-fleet-plans-to-get.html

      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2023/11/air-serbia-targets-up-to-six-embraer.html

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  22. Anonymous09:29

    Now we wait to see which face they paint on the tail

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    1. Vlad09:32

      Hopefully none. Air Serbia doesn't have the kind of brand recognition to justify a special livery on every single long-haul aircraft. Just my two cents.

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    2. Anonymous09:33

      I agree with you Vlad, but they already said they have chose a face for the third A330.

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    3. Nemjee10:00

      My money is on Milutin Milankovic.

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    4. Anonymous10:11

      If they already choose a face for ARD, I would choose Đoković for ARE.

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    5. Anonymous10:12

      Brand recognition is created through clever marketing and unique offering. Therefore, this is a great way to do it since it covers two functions simultaneously. A similar concept is used with airport names.

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    6. Nemjee10:32

      Indeed and that is why JU should work on improving its hard product starting with the IFE.

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    7. Anonymous20:12

      Would love to see the 1960s-1980s JAT livery on one of the upcoming A330s.

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    8. I would like to see "JAT-ovo jaje" on each and every aircraft, entire fleet ☺ I know of course it won't happen, but would be nice, at least for us who know how powerful company it was and all good vibe and positive energy it represented, until 1990

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    9. Anonymous07:07

      ARD - Milutin Milanković
      ARE - Ivo Andrić

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    10. Anonymous10:32

      Agree.

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  23. Anonymous09:32

    Mt question is how the airport will deal with 3 or 4 wide bodies at the same time (Air Serbia + Hainan)

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    1. Anonymous09:33

      * my

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    2. Nemjee10:02

      Hainan shouldn't be a problem as they arrive at 08.00 when the airport is rather quiet. Also, I doubt JU will have more than two A330s at the airport at the same time.
      They will spread out these A330s throughout various departure waves.

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    3. Anonymous21:24

      + what if Qatar Airways adds some WBB rotations to BEG?

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    4. Nemjee16:18

      That would be nice but I think it's more realistic for them to keep the extra three flights in summer. Though I'd love to see their Dreamliner in Belgrade.

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  24. Anonymous09:34

    I hope they fix both soft and hard products on the existing A332. Yesterday 5 out of 18 business class seats didn't work (YU-ARC to ORD). It couldn't turn to bed. Also, there was not enough food on board. It was so embarrassing :(

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    1. Anonymous10:56

      Crew is aware of issues on the plane, as is the management. They write all of it down but the issue is it can't be fixed until the plane goes for a larger maintenance check.

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    2. Перица13:40

      Impossible that a seat can't be fixed on a case by case basis????!

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    3. Anonymous15:58

      Just flew from/to JFK on the ex-SAA plane. Lots of little complaints. No Wi-Fi is a no-go for an 8-hour flight. No power charging ports is not nice, although not essential either. The IFE was still SAA branded and not available in Serbian. Of the three meal options, the only one without meat they had a total of 3 (three) loaded in one direction and 0 (zero) in the other direction. That's all quite sloppy. On the other hand, I must say that compared to the ever sinking standard in the race to the bottom of all other major European carriers, the experience in Economy on JU is overall very good. The seats are still not the wooden board-type slim crap and they are reasonably nicely spaced out. They are not squished like 10-abreast in 777 or 9-abreast in A330, both of which I've recently experienced and both of which are horrible. JU serve pretty good meals, give out plenty of drinks, and let you check two bags per pax. The crew were polite and professional. (LH is a total disaster in their seat pitch, I avoid them at all costs now.) Overall, while there are many small nitpicks, I find that JU (even if just by inertia and lagging in the race to the bottom) is still clinging to comfort in Economy and in my experience offers by far the most pleasant TATL experience in non-premium Economy among my recent experiences with LH, OS, AF, and AA.

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    4. Nemjee16:24

      LH's downward spiral began when they reconfigured their cabins some 10 years ago. That is when the seatpitch was brought down to 30' from 31'. Since then, bit by bit, Lufthansa worsened their onboard product while still charging a pretty penny for tickets.

      I have not flown with LH in three years (just before covid) and back then it was absolutely horrible in every possible way. Air Serbia on the other hand still offers 31' in economy on the A332 and that is why you were so comfortable. I hope they don't change that anytime soon.

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    5. Nemjee16:33

      Sorry, Lufthansa offers 31' while Air Serbia has 32'. Some like Austrian Airlines have 30' which is horrible on longer flights.

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    6. Anonymous16:44

      There is no spare parts for that old cabin so they are waiting parts from other canabalised a330.
      Thats the problem when u have outdated cabin.. and looks like third aircraft is going to have different cabin too, that’s nightmare for maintenance and logistics

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  25. Anonymous09:38

    YU-ARD should be named Milutin Milankovic
    YU-ARE ?????
    Suggestions please.
    Congratulations to Air Serbia

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    1. Anonymous09:46

      Maybe Mileva Marić Einstein, Nadežda Petrović or Milena Pavlović-Barili....

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    2. Nemjee10:04

      ARD will most likely be Milutin Milankovic as he is as famous as the other two they have right now.
      If they want to force political correctness and insist on putting a woman then my vote goes to Milunka Savic. ;)

      However I think someone like Dositej Obradovic deserves it more.

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    3. Anonymous10:13

      Nole!

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    4. Nemjee10:31

      Nole is on YU-APC. I think they are putting dead people on the A330 so pu pu pu we don't want Nole on there.

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    5. Anonymous11:06

      ARE should be paint in special Expo 2027 livery and in Mileva face after 2027. And after Mileva we are running out of world famous Serb scientists. Maybe only Nobel prize winner Ivo Andrić left.

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    6. Anonymous15:57

      I still hope one of their planes will carry the image of Isidora Sekulic :-) It has nothing to do with political correctness, she was a very good writer and she deserves it :-)

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    7. Boris16:14

      Putting personal names on the plane is not that sophisticated to say at least. Dead or alive people it does not matter. I would stay away from that. In my opinion you dont need any names on the plane.
      Milena Marić is great scientist but fed Albert Anjštajn the incorrect science of relativity. So 100 years of wrong science because Tesla was not understood and Albert was a fool.

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    8. Anonymous18:03

      +1

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  26. Anonymous09:43

    Nice to start this year off with some positive news

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  27. ...the lessor decided to scrap a twelve-year-old airframe.

    Is this realy happening nowdays?
    This does not make much sense to me.

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    1. Nemjee10:06

      Could be that the plane was in really bad shape and that it made more sense to sell it as spare parts rather than to invest in its maintenance. Don't forget that the plane was scrapped when there were supply chain issues meaning they could sell these parts for much more than they would before covid.
      Also with more B787s, A350s etc coming out of factories there will be less and less demand for older planes like the A330.

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    2. Anonymous10:55

      The plane could be in a good shape, unfortunately due to supply chain issues this is really happening. Young planes are getting scraped with part of it sold off at a much higher price.

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  28. Nemjee10:30

    Very good news, Air Serbia can't shrink itself into success. They need to find a way to grow at a sustainable rate so that their staff, employees, airport... can cope and adjust.

    Focusing on China is a very good model as that is where demand will come in the next couple of decades. There is no visa regime, we have a free trade agreement with them and more importantly Serbia will become an important transfer point for Chinese goods traveling from Piraeus onward via the upgraded railway system.
    BEG needs to keep on developing its network to China so as to remain competitive compared to BUD. These two airports will fight for regional dominance when it comes to Chinese traffic especially since both should be on the trade network that is being developed by China.

    BEG does have three major advantages compared to BUD and they are JU140, JU142 and JU144.
    With JU offering BEG-BUD they can always link Hungary with China via BEG, something Hungary no longer can do since the European Commission and Wizz Air killed Malev.
    BUD will have to rely on the O&D market to fill these seats while BEG will have the growing O&D market plus transfers from everywhere, BUD included.

    In the first 11 months of 2023 Chinese arrivals jumped by almost 330% to 84.936. In November alone they reached 6.509 (+277%). These are very good numbers.

    I was pleasantly surprised by the new JU ads. They are promoting Malta all over Belgrade and this time around these are nicely designed unlike their previous attempts. It's always better to focus on an underperforming route than to focus on everything at once. Now it's time to put ads in Szeged, Timisoara, Osijek, Tuzla etc. It's time to further consolidate their position in BEG's catchment area.

    On a side note, it will be interesting to follow the W6-TK war in BUD. Wizz Air is increasing BUD-IST to 9 weekly starting from March. TK on the other hand has 21 weekly. Wizz Air will no doubt put pressure on TK's yields on the route. It doesn't help TK that W6 actually flies to IST.

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    1. Anonymous10:56

      +1

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    2. Great News from JU to start the year. Hopefully the first one will be operating for the peak summer period. If there are no more delays.

      And big year for JU at least 7 aircraft will be added to the fleet this year.
      Should be extremely successful if they don't repeat last years mistakes. Like the onboard product etc. And if the airport operator does their job well also.

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    3. Anonymous11:15

      SLAV .MAN you mean 6 airplanes . The second a330 is not certain yet. So it is 3 atr 72-600 , 1 a330 and 2 E 195 wet leased from Marathon .

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    4. Anonymous11:19

      What happened to OY-GDA?

      According to some information this plane has already been painted in JU colors on ATH airport, but still no photos or information about its arrival to JU fleet.

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    5. Anonymous11:22

      It is sitting on the apron in ATH. Probably not required until after Q1 following network reduction

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    6. Nemjee11:38

      Or it could be that they are waiting for the Greeks to finalize the paperwork. I wouldn't be surprised if it was delayed due to Christmas and New Year celebrations.
      Exactly because of network cuts they need the E95 more than ever. It's smaller than the A319 so it could be a better fit on many thinner routes. I see that the E95 is a common visitor to places like OTP, SKG, ATH... and it seems like the right fit for these regional routes during winter.

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    7. Anonymous11:49

      By the way something out of topic , Sky Express also is getting 6 airplanes ( 4 atr 72-600 and 2 a321neo ) in 2024 and I really hope they will finaly consider start BEG or some other ex-yu destination.

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    8. Nemjee12:08

      Absolutely, BEG-ATH is mature enough for a third player. I wouldn't mind if it's Wizz Air though for diversity's sake it would be better if it's SkyExpress.
      I hope BEG-LCA also gets a third player in summer, JU and W6 have close to 21 weekly flights and fares are crazy. Maybe someone like Cyprus Airways could jump in.

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    9. OY-GDA at ATH apron, photo by ATH Spotter on Facebook

      https://scontent.fbeg11-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/415783207_856313739829574_6858089967793601285_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=_1bQK3jvIr8AX91xfZ9&_nc_ht=scontent.fbeg11-1.fna&oh=00_AfAUXBrYBgDAZbC80nLcipn4nTiD7XkEVs6m4556YkWBtQ&oe=65991C16

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    10. Anonymous12:52

      Thank you Dusan!

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    11. Nemjee16:26

      JU livery in general is spectacular, in my opinion one of the best in the world.

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    12. Anonymous17:51

      BUD is actually still quite ahead of BEG when it comes to Chinese connectivity. Not to forget the purchase of many properties in Budapest by the Chinese. BUD is also having 2 carriers to Seoul, S. Korea. A lot of catching up....

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    13. Nemjee18:19

      Indeed but good news is that BEG is currently doing a good job in terms of expanding its long-haul connectivity.
      BEG is already ahead when it comes to the US as all attempts at setting up flights from BUD failed (Malev, American Airlines, Delta, LOT).

      When it comes to China, this is what BUD has to offer this winter:

      CHQ 1 weekly (flights discontinued 1.5 months in winter)
      PEK 2 weekly
      PVG 3 weekly
      NGB 2 weekly

      BEG has 4 in total so half of what BUD has.

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    14. Boris18:34

      That JU livery look pretty Royal i would agree!! Tip Top!

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  29. @11.15

    The article doesn't specify the number of aircraft the agreement is for. Or even when in the year the wide body will arrive.
    So I just decided to be hopeful and included 2 a330 for the year but you're right could be just the 1.

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    1. Anonymous11:49

      Yesterday finance minister Mali announced 2 A330 aircrafts, so no doubt about TWO birds

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    2. Anonymous12:21

      The message to employees in Serbian is in plural, starts with "Novi avioni...". All company communications are done bilingually. So from the Serbian text we can dedce that it is two planes that they have secured. Ex-Yu should certainly have access to the Serbian version tii, I wonder why they left it ambigously

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    3. Maybe 2024 will be a crazy year like 2023 and Jiri will shock us by announcing 3 aircraft deal signed for this year.

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  30. Anonymous13:14

    Can't wait to see what cabins we get lol

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  31. Anonymous15:46

    Would Guangzhou be a viable alternative for Australia flights? I checked on the Great Circle Mapper and it seems to be only 50 miles longer than through Dubai and even less than through Doha. If JU could get a codeshare (or even just interline ticketing) going with China Southern to Sydney and Melbourne, this could be a wonderful addition to their offerings.

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    1. Anonymous15:59

      Really, an interesting insight! However, I guess the current restrictions on Ukraine and Black Sea airspace would significantly extend these flights.

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    2. It is in interesting route. I would hope someone at JU does consider such things.
      Many airlines have such a route but use Singapore.
      So singapore or maybe india would be an option for the A330 JU has.
      But I'm not hopeful with all the nepotism there.
      As for China it could be hard since the Chinese government system are very difficult to deal with even though they have a good relationship with Serbia.

      I have looked at other options such as flying with stop in Tbilisi or Yereven. Since so many Armenians and Georgians are in Australia and also possible to fly from Larnaca, Cyprus but would need the A330neo to make the distance.

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      @Anon 15:59 I see, yes, that is unfortunate that the Guangzhou map would have to significantly deviate as the closest route does indeed go directly above southern Ukraine, Crimea, etc.

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  32. Anonymous15:48

    I agree that year was lost. Maybe this agreement comprises of planned introduction of several A330s in the coming years which will start with 2 A330s this year.

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  33. Something doesn't add to me. I have no direct knowledge of the current used A330 market, but I do know Etihad has 15 sored A330s in their possession. Most have been stored since 2018/2019. Are you telling me Air Serbia couldn't strike a deal for any of these?

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    1. forgot to provide link...

      https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Etihad%20Airways-stored-a330.htm

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    2. Anonymous16:32

      Do you in now how much money is required to get an airplane that has not been in operation for 6 years back in the air?

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    3. Anonymous16:33

      Also airfleets is the worst source of information as anyone can edit it and put what they please. A lot of the information there is incorrect.

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    4. Of course it will take money to get a plane out of storage and into service. If Air Serbia believes in their business model (meaning they expect profitable route expansion), then they are leaving money on the table by not rushing to acquire the necessary aircraft. Airline travel is booming worldwide. Supplies are tight everywhere, so they are not going to find a "unicorn" (a 330 that just came out of "D" check) at a cost just above scrap value. I am making this comment, because it seems they are competing with scrap yards for the same aircraft.

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    5. Anonymous05:53

      POPO there are aircraft available but they are not available at the price Air Serbia wants to pay. They mentioned this previously on this blog.

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  34. Bravo Hrvatska!!!! Bravo Kradeze!!!! Bravo Jasmineeeeeee!!!! Bravo AP!!!! Bravo uhljebi!!!! Bravo botovi!!!
    The state with almost no tourism, lower GDP per capita, bilateral administrative restrictions, and except one chinese, no other foreign airlines from distant markets, managed to create an airline which is becoming regional leader and important player much wider, while OU is licking LH ass. Bravo! Congratulations! Well done! Keep on with single type fleet until you are smaller and more pathetic than Dolomiti!!!

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    1. Anonymous17:09

      What is AP?

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    2. Anonymous17:16

      Someone is desperate full of meanness and jealousy !

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    3. Anonymous19:30

      Andrej Plenkovic

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    4. @17.16
      Correct. That would be you, when someone tells the truth into your face. Painful and sad truth about those whose orders you obediently execute, and those who turned OU into disgrace every honest citizen is ashamed of

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  35. Anonymous18:19

    It's not truth that Serbia has almost no tourism. It's certainly not on the croatian level but you can't say it's non existing.

    The difference between GDP per capita isn't that huge that it would make such a difference. Your statement sounds like you're comparing Luxembourg and Serbia and not Croatia and Serbia.

    Bilateral administrative restrictions? Such as? No visa regime for EU, China, India, Turkey, Egypt...

    Don't forget that Aeroput was founded in 1927 which makes AirSerbia (un)officially one of the 10 oldest operating airlines in the world. History of serbian aviation hasn't started 10 years ago.

    On the other had I fully agree that OU should be better company than it is today, but it's not our issue.

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    1. Boris18:42

      There are few other things that it did not go well for former JAT/Air Serbia that these success looks almost unbeleviable.
      And these are: several years of hot war, breakdown of the country and
      market, loss of non-aligned countries market, loss of middle east and north africa market, dissolution of ex Eastern european/ soviet market, loss of pilots and managment due to emigration etc etc

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    2. Anonymous19:00

      It's JAT, not former JAT.

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    3. Boris02:56

      There was JAT in YU
      Also there was also JAT from 1991 onward. It was in 2 different countries. First one was JAT and the second one is former JAT.

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    4. Anonymous06:58

      Wrong.
      Aeroput was renamed
      JAT in 1947. In 2003 JAT was renamed Jat Airways. In 2013 Jat Airways was renamed Air Serbia.
      There is no former JAT, or Jat. They existed while they existed.
      Nothing former about any of them.

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  36. Anonymous19:21

    Since two other A330 are coming, Shanghai and Guangzhou are already secured, added to these they could launch Toronto, Miami and maybe New Delhi and Singapore. Next year we'll have Tokyo and Seoul hopefully.

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    1. Anonymous19:25

      They have said numerous times North America expansion will be in 2025.

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    2. Anonymous21:21

      Don't forget Lagos.

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    3. We can joke about Lagos all we want but realistically speaking, metropolis of 20+ milion people within the reach of A319 could be viable from Belgrade, depending on other factors.

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    4. Anonymous22:42

      -They have said numerous times North America expansion will be in 2025.

      Wrong move once again. Air Serbia should expand destinations in North America this year and add more frequencies to JFK/ORD in 2025.

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    5. Anonymous22:44

      Why not read the article? You might find out what may be an issue in adding frequencies to JFK. And unlike you, they obviously know what are their yields and costs per route.

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    6. Anonymous22:59

      JFK slot issues were already mentioned here. One more reason they should have expanded NA destinations this year and expand JFK/ORD frequencies in 2025.

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    7. Anonymous00:19

      I believe that was said in the light of lacking appropriate airplane. Now it’s very likely that fourth plane is coming, no reason not to start expansion this summer. I believe that Miami and Toronto 2pw may fit with one/two extra rotation per week in New York

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    8. Anonymous00:32

      No, it wasn't. He said it in an interview in November. They were already negotiating plane leases then and he categorically stated that in 2024 it is China expansion, 2025 North America expansion (either YYZ or MIA) and in 2026 Far East Asia expansion. They have a strategy and they are sticking to it. For people saying "there is no reason not to start expansion", there is and it is called money. A relatively small sized airline such as Air Serbia can't just launch 4 long haul routes in a single year, especially to extremely seasonal market and expensive markets (operationally) such as the US/Canada. Each new long haul route requires significant investment. People here often seem to forget the notion of money and finances.

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    9. Anonymous01:07

      Money for what exactly? Revenue last year was huge. Nonsense

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    10. Anonymous01:22

      The fact that you ask for what shows that you know little about aviation. Each flight costs money, manpower, landing fees, handling fees, slots, fuel, airport taxes, overflight fees etc and they vary by airport. Here is one for you, Toronto Pearson is one of the most expensive airports in the world. You think it took JFK route 5 years to be profitable because they coulsn't find passengers? No, it's because the costs of the flight are extremely high. Also, I suggest you learn what revenue means and for what it is used. Every single business in the world has revenue. And fyi, an average one way flight between Belgrade and Miami would cost the airline between 250,000 and 400,000 euros

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    11. Anonymous05:06

      I am not Anon 1:07. However Anon 1:22 you need to check Toronto fees. They are reflected in lower ticket prices as well. YYZ has lowcost airlines offering 3 hour transborder flights for less than 30 EUR, for example Flair Airlines YYZ-FLL. Compare that to lowest prices for 3 hour W6 flights from BEG to LIS in the next 6 months.

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    12. Anonymous09:33

      So, you are implying that they are leasing aircrafts to keep them on the ground, so they will not make loss? And actually, every flight to USA is deadly to any company, since it doesn’t make profit. And Marek is lying that Chicago route is profitable from day one? Also he is lying that he returned 21 mil to the government in weaker first 6 months, so it’s obvious that company has no money for expansion. Total madness of nonsense

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    13. Anonymous09:36

      ^ What I'm implying is that you have no clue about aviation, which you have proven in every comment you have posted.

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    14. Anonymous11:42

      Ok, thanks avation ignorant

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  37. Anonymous21:03

    Where the hell are they going to park those wide bodies when not in the air? It is a big issue even now, with present two and all other a319...

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  38. Anonymous21:18

    Ok...
    So, why they didn't try to lease those two engines and to purchase aircraft with no engines?
    I mean, they tried to get rid off that aircraft in few words.
    You can purchase also aircraft with no engines and lease engines from someone.
    They should to think about every solution.
    There is no sense to scrap 12 years old, maybe 30 years old.
    Marek is good boy, the only thing is that they don't want to hassle around with those lessors

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    1. Anonymous21:25

      You really have no clue what you are talking about. Lease plane with no engines? Then lease engines which are more expensive then the entire aircraft of which there is a bigger shortage on the market then actual airframes. Hence why the lessor decided to sell engines in the first place. Love when armchair CEOs who would bankrupt an airline within the first hour give out advice.

      Not to go into the fact that you obviously have no clue what the situation on the market is and why airlines like Qantas, Etihad, Air New Zealand, SAS, British Airways, Air France and many others are all wet leasing planes this winter

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