The President of Serbia, Aleksandar Vučić, has said the state-owned national carrier Air Serbia will introduce one new destination in the United States and two in China for a total of three in each country, while services to the South Korean capital of Seoul are currently being considered. Speaking at a press conference following talks with his counterpart from the Central African Republic, Mr Vučić, said, “During this year we will have three scheduled routes to China. In addition to Tianjin, which is near Beijing, they include Guangzhou and Shanghai. We will also have three routes to the United States. We already have New York and Chicago, and we will also add flights to Miami. We are reviewing the possibility of a new quick service to Seoul too. It is difficult to source wide-body aircraft which are affordable, but it is our duty to find those aircraft.”.
Air Serbia has so far confirmed it plans to introduce flights to both Shanghai and Guangzhou this year. It previously said it had reached an agreement to expand its fleet with two wide-body aircraft, which will be arriving this year. Since then, the country’s Ambassador to the United States noted the carrier was in advanced talks with Miami Airport over the introduction of flights to the city and that ticket sales could begin as early as this year. “Miami is next in the US. Discussions about the new Miami service have been taking place since at least last year. Air Serbia is pretty far in talks with MIA [Miami International Airport]. I think it will happen this year. If the carrier gets new long haul airplanes by April, then the Miami flight could be added fairly quickly”, Marko Djurić, Serbia’s Ambassador to the US, said last month.
The remarks largely align with Air Serbia's previously disclosed plans. The airline has openly acknowledged obtaining permits for routes to Shanghai and Guangzhou. It had earlier mentioned the potential inclusion of Miami or Toronto as its third destination in North America, although it had said its newest route to the continent would commence in 2025. The CEO has also indicated a review of Far East Asian destinations, such as Seoul and Tokyo, for potential launch in the future. “Once we expand to these cities in China, we will most likely add another destination in North America and, in the near future, we will also look beyond China in the Far East, most likely South Korea and Japan”, the company’s CEO, Jiri Marek, noted.
Interesting. So Seoul will be the Far East destination outside of China.
ReplyDeleteCould Miami actually launch next winter season?
ReplyDeleteIt's high season in Miami. So it would actually make sense.
DeleteSo no Toronto then at all?
ReplyDeleteLooks like it
DeleteToronto will probably be added eventually, just not this year
DeleteChicago service was announced 10 months in advance. Based on priority given to other destinations, it is unlikely Air Serbia would announce Toronto this year, meaning service won't start in 2025. The earliest it could possibly start is summer of 2026. By then Air Canada and Air Transat will see updates to their fleets and might have different plans when it comes to Belgrade.
DeleteAnd yet new A330's are nowhere near.
ReplyDeleteAnd you know whether they are near?
DeleteThey have already found the A330s and they are probably being prepared for service. A date of May arrival was floated by some government minister.
DeleteIs the MSN of the two upcoming A330s known?
DeleteIt would already be some pics from paintshop or service by now like for ARB and C but othing yet.
DeleteAnd yeah, when minister or govt official says something it has to be granted as truth.
Delete@9.17 if the first plane is arriving in May as announced, it would not be in the paint shop on 1 March.
DeleteExactly. If the plane comes in May it will go to the paint shop at the end of April. Repainting slots themselves are difficult to come by nowadays too.
DeleteThey have actually already revealed that one of the two upcoming A330s will have an "Expo 2027" livery.
Delete@9:33 where did you get that info from?
DeleteThe chief of Serbia knows.
DeleteIt was shown at one of the presentations for Expo a month ago. There was even an image of it.
DeleteI mean an animated image of it, not the actual plane.
DeleteI hope expo livery will be something creative rather than just a billboard
Delete☝️Referring to the abysmal 'Serbia creates' livery
DeleteWell, yes, it did not look very nice in my opinion this expo livery. A lot of white. If I find the screenshot I will post it.
DeleteHere it is. Air Serbia Expo livery shown during Expo presentation at the start of February
Deletehttps://i.ibb.co/QfwYLgT/slike-avio-JU-A330-EXPO-27.jpg
It doesn't look that bad actually.
DeleteI hope the new wide body comes with a right wing though, not as shown in the render
DeleteWould make sense that they might be preparing the two incoming widebodies to be fitted with the same interior product and entertainment system. And then use them on current routes and then update the product of the current two. So all 4 are ready for the launch of new routes.
DeleteBut at this rate who knows what JU is thinking
Judging by the seat maps for upcoming flights, seems YU-ARC it's getting the same cabin layout as YU-ARB (also it's surprising how full the flights are on business class to JFK based on selected seats by passengers for next month).
DeleteWould a A330neo be needed for Seoul or can the current A330ceo make the flight?
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't. An A330-200 can make it comfortably.
DeleteHow long would BEG-ICN take?
DeleteGuesswork is a bit over 10 hours, maybe 10h30min
DeleteActually it's a quick service.
DeleteThat's because JU can fly over Russia if there is a need for ICN flights.
DeleteYet they don't fly over it on a route to China.
DeleteIs YU-ARB currently undergoing cabin reconfiguration? It is France, just not sure if it's regular maintenance or cabin change.
ReplyDeleteI hope it's cabin reconfiguration.
DeleteARC just left for France as well.
DeleteOk then it's definitely cabin reconfig . And also means YU-ARB should be returning to BEG.
DeleteWhat's the cabin reconfiguration? What's going to be different/ changed?
DeleteManagement has announced several times that they want to change the business class and economy seats and have the same seats/product on YU-ARB and YU-ARC. They also said there are supply chain issues which is why they could not do it so far. I don't know if this is why the planes are in France. Just guessing.
DeleteDang those supply chain issues!
DeleteWell it is a big issue. Lufthansa has been delaying its new cabins year after year because there is no one that can manufacture them and then put them in the plane.
DeleteLufthansa has been delaying its new cabins because they overengineered the product and it took forever to get the seats certified for production. But it's true that there are supply chain constraints everywhere.
DeleteThird and fourth A330 were supposed to arrive by May, so by the end of next month. That's not going to happen.
DeleteGood!
ReplyDeleteSeoul is a bit of an odd choice. I wonder based on what they made that decision over Japan.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious too, I went to Tokyo last month and I met English teacher from Serbia at the airport. Svuda nas ima :)
DeleteFeed Croatia.
DeleteI'm not actually sure they would be able to make it to Japan with an A330-200.
DeleteKoreans go to Dubrovnik en masse because of some TV series they watch.
DeleteThat was before COVID. Significantly less Coreans in Croatia nowadays, so that's not true reason. However, many Corean companies operating in Serbia and surrounding counties. I imagine it would be the mix of the 2 + Serbianf and Corean tourists
DeleteSome TV serious? You know damn well which one!
Delete^ It was a Korean dating show.
DeleteCorean?
DeleteGame of Thrones.
DeleteCargo heavy route. Similar to Guangzhou.
DeleteNot the first time I am amazed by the fact that such statements come from the President of Serbia. "we already have", "we are reviewing". Is he really that involved in managing the airline?
ReplyDeleteIt's his personal pet project.
DeleteAnd why wouldn't he? He is fighting hard from day one to get this airline going and to be where they are today. JU is their investment and they own 100% of the airline. Hope they continue support and push management to get bigger and better . Other gouvermants do not do much and we can see how many airlines went under for that reason.
DeleteExcept The President of Serbia is not the government, which owns the airline. Which means his responsibility for the airline is zero and you can't have people who are not responsible for something making important decisions about that. I mean, you can but that means that together with him, the airline will be gone too. That would be bad, so we need a system in our aviation, not the head of state deciding on routes.
DeleteYou make 0 sense Anonymous14:37
DeleteSeoul sounds novo, bolje
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DeleteSamo neprestano, nepre-neprestano
DeleteWhere is Toronto?
ReplyDeleteCanada
DeleteNot in Air Serbia's plans it seems.
DeleteLol
DeleteWell I guess Air Canada can seize the wonderful opportunity, now that AS doesn't care for a two months of summer profitable route. Toronto works from June to September, get over it.
DeleteChicago route doesn't money in the winter.
DeleteCanada is not on their radar anymore. Many Serbs have moved back or planning to do so . Relationship between Canada and Serbia does not exist as everyone is well aware what kind of regime is in power in Canada. Why they would fly to the most expensive airport in the World and where immigration system is completely corrupted? Canada passenger protection act does not even exist . I would stay away from that country until major changes happened.
Deletehttps://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/air-passenger-protection-regulations-highlights
DeleteIn America wanna be.
DeleteHonestly praising Canada that much is too much. The country is in a deep crisis. The imported immigrants are increasing and there is no housing. The Balkan diaspora has decreased a lot and this obsession with Toronto is insane. Please do some investigation about what really is happening in Canada at the moment and you will be shocked. Look at the homeless shocking terrifying videos, lack of doctors, very expensive houses. Toronto is a very expensive and seasonal airport. Similar to Australia, Canada population is concentrated in the south only or away from the desert in Australia. It is really not that hard to find information and think logically. Let Air Serbia focus on JFK and ORD for the time being. Both routes are apparently doing well and they can compete with LOT when it comes to prices, because they are pretty good and many passengers will not complain and not mind flying older A330s because they know the prices are very good and not expect "chic" experience. Simple and common sense.
Deleteokay its understandable, that canada is seasonal. JU management has said it multiple times but then what is the opposition to launching it seasonally? they have seasonal routes in europe to make a profit for when there is demand. they serve the great demand between the YUG/Balkans for the summer and gives more of a boost to their regional network.
Deleteas for australia, that is a long way away. the closest they can get with a direct flight to is Perth with the A330-200 which is a great place but without the neo it will be very expensive ticket wise. or unless they fly with a stop in singapore like many airlines do.
Wow Canada passenger protection rights sounds horrible. Like why even have one as everything is twisted and sounds like passenger gets nothing unless you are delay for some crazy reason.
DeleteIt’s not just A330’s they need to source. Any expansion of long haul will grow demand for transfers. I mean from Sarajevo recently I have flown a few times and over 50% of passengers on all of them were transfer. I note they have started to fly their airbus on the route but this is an example of a route out growing the ATR. This is also positive.
ReplyDeleteIt is a bit strange how much the president of a country is involved in the destination choices of a company. Imagine: Biden: American eying xy flights...
ReplyDeleteHe just said what Marek had said in the past.
DeleteBiden does not invest in any American airlines as they are not a small country and there is no need for it.
Delete@09:46 thats a very selective example. america is no different to serbia or any other country in the world. the government gets directly involved in companies which are believed to be of national interest. the american government will work directly to support those companies and even shape the future of those companies. like Boeing (commercial and military sides)
DeleteBoth Biden and Trump have spoken about investments in their airports and that's kind of teh same thing.
DeleteSurprised that they aren‘t looking at Singapore. Could be interesting for Aussie diaspora.
ReplyDeleteThis Vucic guy is really a self promoting kidnapper - where in the world is head of the state announcing new routes of an airline? Bizarre...
ReplyDeleteCroatian goverment spend 400 millions euros to OU, and planning 200 million more, with no result. Also, they are talking about OU, but not about new destinations.
Delete...as they don't have them.
DeleteAnalitičar said 400 million. And he is not someone relevant.
DeleteHe cares about the organization and other orgs since they provide people with a living. Jobs, jobs, jobs...
DeleteThe tiny difference being he is not a government and has no authorities over it.
DeleteOr at least shouldn’t have.
The president of Serbia involves in Air Serbia matters ??!!! God ! This reminds me my country Greece in the 80's .
ReplyDeletePerhaps you should read the article.
DeleteWell, the country is the owner of the airline and has been investing into its growth.
DeleteWrong. The Govt is the owner, President is normally not executive.
DeleteNext destination is Miami wow i am very happy 😊
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DeleteWhen a politician gets involved in speeches like this, it immediately becomes suspicious. Also again, why is this obsession of growing and growing when in fact Air Serbia first needs to fix its fleet issues, continue with regional expansion and also why Seoul when Budapest already has a very strong Korean coverage. This, oh we are BIGGER and we are the kings of the region Balkan mentality is so present.
ReplyDeleteRead other comments about Toronto over and and over again. Guys, are you blind? There are SO many videos of why people are leaving Canada, plus it is a very seasonal destination.
Also long-haul flights are away from cheap and always need a lot of money. It took TK ages to enter Australia but you cannot compare them with EK.
Also JU had a very serious incident and almost mortal and again obsessed with expansions and expansions. The A330s are okay, not modern, but decent but why not deploy them on CHARTERS as well? Think they will make more money or use them as ACMI during the weaker season as many other European airlines do it. It will also be very very curious how the Romanian HiSky perform on their JFK route. This is an expensive route with slots for a new airline and if Delta failed in the past it was for some reason. Would not say Romanian aviation is in the best shape for such a big country.
It is all fine for airlines to grow, but Air Serbia is just small and the bigger boys will immediatly take advantage. Remember what happened with Malév? All the vultures swarmed BUD. Imo, JU must focus on regional development as it working well at the moment, find ways of more transfer traffic like they did with AUH for example. Strongly consider the Caucasus but comments always talking about Miami and Toronto are crazy. Miami has a huge latino community and there is a very large competition. Emirates just announced Bogotá (which btw is very cool airport)
https://loyaltylobby.com/2024/02/21/emirates-introduces-daily-miami-bogota-miami-fifth-freedom-flights-from-june-3-2024/
Enough of those expansions for JU, focus on fixing the fleet and grow slowly which in my opinion OU is going to do but are a bit more "silent" and "conservative". Yet again, they are now facing fierce competition with Ryanair like many other countries in the region.
Do not think Toronto will be doable. Canada is very cold, very seasonal, now they have huge problems with housing and homeless. Yes, there is probably an Eastern European Balkan diaspora, but cannot compare it with Chicago for example. Canada has many many problems, you can just go to YouTube and see many videos of "betrayed immigrants" or "why I chose to leave Canada" with thousands of views.
If anyone working for JU is reading this comment first fix the fleet issues, focus on regional expansion, continue finding ATRs or if you can lease new ones. Try to find newer A330s because it is an EXCELLENT plane and much better than the Dreamliners (personal opinion). Of course, who would also not love the classic 773 and elegant A350.
Anon 10:29 the answear is simple. As long as Serbia is not a member of EU and don't have the control of European commision or the complains from other EU airlines , lets say Ryan air then they can spent anything they want !
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DeleteAnon@10:29
DeletePlease warn us next time with; long rant ahead.
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Kme, kmeeeee.. Air Serbia is growing, kmeeee.... Mama, OU is not growing.. Well, AS has profit, so dont be jelaous.
DeleteYou have too much complex. No one mentioned OU.
DeleteI guess Air Serbia needs to expand its global coverage due to EXPO 2027, to bring a lot of visitors and tourist to Belgrade during the event. After that, the EXPO should set up Belgrade on the global stage as a more prominent place and destination. Long story short, they need to look in the future, not how big the demand is now, but how big it will be in 3-5 years!
DeleteGood gouvermant should be always behind the state own airline and make decisions together with CEO. 100% support what they have done it so far .
Delete@10:29
DeleteI flew to Caucasus region literally twice a month in the last few years..There is no need to fly there..Almost no transfer pax were coming to Beg, no tourists from both sides as well..Bogota airport, if you were reffering to airport facilities, is one of the worst I've been..On the contrary of your opinion, regional development is story from beginning of 2000', when JAT was coming back to the airline scene, its different story worldwide these days, besides regional is developed well enough..To promote EXPO and bring tourists to region, AS should introduce more long houl routes, especially south-east asian that are always fully booked due to year round tourist destination..AS can compete fir transfer pax with good prices, and also many serbians go there..many many..My pick would be Indonesia, or Vietnam, because not that many airlines from Europe go there, competition is not that high, and those 2 are year round destination, and great as transfers for other SE Asian countries and Australia..
Size of country doent have anytjhing with size of airline. That is stupid comparasion, for someone who doesnt realize capitalism and globalisation. You have exaples like Air Baltic or Ryan..Smaller countries than Serbia.
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DeleteAdd U-Tapao instead of Seoul?!!?! Pattaya!
ReplyDeleteMale, Punta Cana, Zanzibar, Mauritius, Phuket, Krabi, Seychelles, Cancun
DeleteNije što je naš ali baš lep livery, jedan od lepših
ReplyDeleteLep livery za toalet papir, stvarno
DeleteAny chance the A330s are coming from Oman Air? I think their entire fleet of A330s (mix of -200 and -300) planes is scheduled to be taken out of service by end of March.
ReplyDeleteThat would be the only good thing JU has done ever - WY A330s have great seats, APEX suites for business class.
DeleteBoth A330s are ex-EY birds and they are not in the best shape right now. That is why they won't be flying before winter.
DeleteRidiculous waste of taxpayers money
ReplyDeleteTaxpayers are not paying for Air Serbia, but you already know that.
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