NEWS FLASH
Air France will reduce its operations between Paris Charles de Gaulle and Ljubljana both on its initially planned schedule for this winter, as well as the previous winter season. The French carrier intends on maintaining a daily service between the two cities from October 27 until March 30 of next year, down from the initially scheduled eleven weekly rotations. Its revised frequencies also represent a decrease on the previous winter when flights were operated eight to nine times per week, depending on the month. All flights over the winter are currently scheduled to be maintained with the 100-seat Embraer E190 aircraft, with exception to the November 3 service which will see the 76-seat E170 jet deployed. Further changes remain possible.
Bravo Fraport!
ReplyDeleteAnd people are still saying we don't need a national carrier.
ReplyDeleteLet's hope Cyprus is successful, this would at least to some extent save LJU
Don’t be too optimistic with Cyprus. They have too much issues with one of their current A220s because of the engine and only one is operational.
DeleteCyprus isn't even successful in Cyprus where people go for Wizz and Aegean via ATH, how can it be successful in LJU?
DeleteLarnaca has options, Ljubljana doesn't, simple as that
DeleteDoesn't prove the fact that CY can thrive in Slovenia
DeleteYou make no sense.
DeleteIs there a single airport from LJU that's served by 2 carriers?
DeleteAny new route that's open means a total dominance for that carrier, which means it's easier for the likes of Cyprus (who's getting pushed out of Larnaca by LCCs) to operate from LJU than their home base.
No competition with healthy demand is always good, even though the yields for the big carriers are not as big, for smaller ones it's a chance to establish operating profits instead of battling LLCs with a loss at their home base
I am pretty sure that if CY really happend and they based here one or two A220s that they are getting, they would be successful.
DeleteLufthansa, Air Serbia, Corendon, Air Montenegro and Transavia all have 2, although only the former two have them year round
DeleteNot a single destination is served by two different carriers (Apart from London and Paris, but not to the same airport, and Paris is covered by the same parent group)
DeleteI misread the original, post, my bad yeah
DeleteI would not be surprised at all if next summer they announce that Transavia France will be their replacement and they pull out considering how much they have been cutting flights to LJU this year.
ReplyDeleteDoubt it. Transavia operates from ORY, which would effectively destroy any connectivity AF offers to long-haul flights.
DeleteAir France, Aegean, British, Luxair, easyjet.. who is next? Government should do the same as Hungary did, nationalize the airport and bring other operator.
ReplyDeleteLuxair?
DeleteLuxair stands for Luxurious Airline 😉
DeleteThe only luxurius thing here is flying out of Lju. Prices are insane compared to neighbouring airports like Zagreb, Trieste, Venice, Graz and Vienna
Delete@Anon 11:00 - I would leave Graz from this list. The airport offers almost no direct connections aside from a few German airports. Prices are also on the higher end.
Delete^Lies again.
DeleteLuxair suspended LJU for winter. Summer 2025 fares are already published.
ReplyDeleteThey didn't, they did however reduce the flights - November and February was cut out, whilst December, January, March are 2x weekly
DeleteWow in two months (December and January) they have in total 6 flights. Amazing two weekly right there.
DeleteLimited service in December and January as well and we're still in July. Aegean did the same thing first reduced flights and then suspend it all over winter.
DeleteHey, as someone who use the flights regularly, it's a shame, but it's still better than flying to BRU and having to take a train. LJU desperately needs SkyAlps or UniversalAir to base one Dash
DeleteI think Ljubljana needs more than one Dash to solve problems
Delete(with connectivity)
DeleteEven one Dash would mean more progress than LJU ever saw in the past 5 years
DeleteIt seems that LJU is simply not profitable in the winter. Load factors rarely exceed 50% and foreign carriers just don't wanna make losses.
ReplyDeleteAnd where did u read that load factors rarely exceeded 50%?
DeleteFanboy expert which is blaming everything else except Fraport so he must use made up data.
DeleteTook AF last winter, despite the 400€ fare the E190 was 95% full.
DeleteIdeally, Transavia extends Orly to year round, the demand is there
It's not so hard to calculate for each month and each airline. Both capacity and transported passengers are publicly available. Average winter load factor is howering just below 50% on most airlines (with exception of low cost airlines and holidays).
DeleteWould one of the idiots from a few years ago when Adria was still around care to comment on reduction of fares out of LJU? They were complaining about Adria's expensive tickets, yet there's not a word about LH crazy expensive tickets (and unreliable service).
ReplyDeleteIts not only LH with crazy expensive tickets. For me the most ridiculous prices are offered from Brusselss airlines. Also AF is not far and Transavia as a lowcost also has really high fares.
DeleteLufthansa is not as expensive as Adria was.
Delete@16:01
DeleteI guess you have never flown LH out of LJU then. 300€+ tickets are not cheap.
Did Air France ever have service from Sarajevo?
ReplyDeleteSadly nope
DeleteLjubljana-France passenger numbers January-April:
ReplyDelete2019: 26.319
2023: 27.370
2024: 23.512
P2P recovery my as*
Your comment literally proves that the recovery took place. The rest of the passengers were transfers from Pristina, Tirana etc
DeleteI did not know that in 2023 Air France flew transfers from Pristina and Tirana via LJU.
Delete@Anon 16:02 is a typical Fraport fanboy. P2P recovery did not take place due to the airport policy. There is demand from/to Slovenia, higher than ever, only it's accomodated (outside LH interests) from other airports. Are you aware that Trieste had more pax than Ljubljana this April, first time ever?
DeleteFrapot doesn t want to see the low cost a. otherwise Lufthansa will lose €€€
ReplyDeleteAF are gradually giving up the region for LH. One can tell how weak their presence is in the entire region. LH Group is obviously the absolute dominante leader in the Balkans.
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