China Southern Airlines is preparing for the launch of two weekly flights between Guangzhou and Belgrade by the end of the year. As EX-YU Aviation News learns, services are expected to commence around the same time as Air Serbia introduces its operations between the two cities, which was recently scheduled for September 30. The two carriers are set to cooperate on the new route, with a codeshare agreement likely. China Southern, which currently serves ten European airports, would provide connections to its extensive network, which includes the rest of China, Asia and Australia. Guangzhou, the capital of Guangdong province and a major commercial hub in South China, has led the country in airport passenger numbers for four consecutive years.
This July, China Southern Airlines is the sixth largest airline in the world based on available seat capacity and the seventh in terms of the number of operated flights. It will become the second Chinese carrier to serve Belgrade after Hainan Airlines, which maintains operations from Beijing, and the third scheduled wide-body operator at the airport, with the airline expected to deploy its Dreamliner jets on the route. During an official visit to Serbia in May, China’s President Xi Jinping, called on for the introduction of more flights between the two countries. “We encourage airlines from both sides to launch more flights between the two countries, as well as direct flights between Belgrade and Guangzhou”, Mr Xi said.
During the January - May period, a total of 46.977 Chinese tourists visited Serbia, representing an increase of 70.8% on 2023. A series of strategic cooperation agreements were recently reached between Guangdong province and Serbia. A delegation from the province, led by its Vice Governor, visited the country late last month to promote trade and tourism. A Free Trade Agreement between Serbia and China, signed in October 2023, came into effect on July 1. Covering over 20.000 products, exports such as fresh apples, blueberries, dried plums, jams, seeds, and beef from Serbia to the Chinese market can now proceed without tariffs. The agreement aims for full liberalisation within fifteen years and is expected to significantly boost cargo between the two countries.
In my opinion, this is a big new customer for BEG. Good news.
ReplyDeleteSeriously?? In your opinion?? In my opinion, it's very hot today in Niš.
DeleteKnowing Chinese carriers, tickets will probably go on sale 5 days before they launch.
ReplyDeleteWhy do Chinese airlines do this?
DeleteBecause they can,they have a massive domestic network so they can compensate losses when flying abroad.
Delete^ It is completely unrelated to that.
DeleteChinese carriers have different types of sales channels. Majority of tickets first go on sale through tour operators and an internal sales distribution system. So tickets are on sale well in advance, it is just that outside of China you don't know about it. Then tickets go on sale through WeChat. The only European airline that sells tickets through WeChat, that I now of, is Finnair. It is very useful for Chinese market. Only after that do tickets go on sale through the official website, through which very few people in China actually buy tickets.
I think Mahan Air also sells them through WeChat, I think someone mentioned when they flew to BEG some years ago.
DeleteI miss Mahan Airs A340-300 in Belgrade.
DeleteThere also was Qeshm Air.
What unfortunate times we live in.
You must miss it since they never operated with A340-300 to BEG. They used the A310.
DeleteThe A310 and the A340-300.
DeleteThere are even video clips of them landing at Belgrade airport in Youtube.
Youtube : Long Landing!! Mahan Air Airbus A340-343 landing@ Belgrade airport by Alpha Six ...
DeleteIt was rare occurrence.
DeleteActually no it wasn't. Once Serbia became popular Mahan used the A340 as regular equipment. They sent the A310 at first.
DeleteNice!
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I hope someone kicks out Hainan from PEK-BEG. Since last summer they always request the permit for the third flight, get it and then don't do anything. We need someone who will take a better care of this market.
ReplyDeleteThey have an excellent product and are consistent in their service. Why would you want them to be "kicked out"?
DeleteYou're right.
DeleteThe way kids think.
DeleteAnd who will serve PEK then? It's not like JU has the capacity
DeleteOnly aviation site in the world where somebody would hope for an airline to withdraw and discontinue flights.
DeleteWe've had people hoping for airlines to go bankrupt so no surprise here.
DeleteBecause flights are full to the gills! There is so much demand to PEK and they are not reacting. Air China should step in and replace them since they are not serious about their BEG operations.
Delete^ what a terrible way of thinking. Air China can fly alongside them if the flights are full. But they, unlike Hainan, have shown no interest in BEG.
DeleteAnon 10.09 is devoid of reality. There is a saying in Serbia - Kako mali Perica zamišlja avijaciju.
DeleteCodeshare between JU and CZ would make sense.
ReplyDeleteIt was obvious they would cooperate the moment it was announced they would fly to BEG.
DeleteHopefully in the near future JU will be allowed to serve Beijing and Shanghai. 🇷🇸❤️🇨🇳
ReplyDeleteThey are launching Shanghai by the end of the year.
DeleteHope the PVG flights happen this year.
DeleteI really hope the times are good for connecting passengers from/to Australia.
ReplyDeleteWhat departure/arrival times would that have to be to connect onto these flights?
DeleteTheir flights to Australia (SYD, MEL and BNE) depart Guangzhou in at 9PM. Although there are also Melbourne and Sydney flights at 8AM too. In November they will start Perth. The flights all arrive from Australia to CAN at around 5 PM.
DeleteThanks. In combination with JU I'm sure they will make it work.
DeleteHope so. They have very affordable fares.
DeleteMost Chinese airlines depart for Europe at around 1 or 2AM in the morning, arrive in Europe in the morning and than leave at around 1PM, arriving in China early morning. Same as Hainan with their Belgradde flights.
DeleteIf CZ implements a similar schedule then they will have good connections only to/from the region.
DeleteAir Serbia's schedule connects perfectly to China Southern's Australia connections.
DeleteLet's see what fares we get through the codeshare. JU deals are usually worthless.
DeleteChinese transit is problematic for Australia until China abolishes visas for Australians which should be happening but timing not clear. A lot of Serbian Australians don’t have Serbian passports.
DeleteYou don't require a visa to transfer from flight to flight. And in any case two weeks ago it was announced that China is cutting visas for Australians for 2 week stays
Deletehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-19/visa-free-travel-china-australia-beijing-li-qiang/103996634
Correction from me. Australians can now enter China visa free for 15 days.
DeleteChinese airlines had insisted on visa in case you had to leave airport.
DeleteAdmin here is an idea for an article. When CZ loads flights and when the codeshare is complete you can write a report on how competitive CAN is compared to IST, DOH and DXB. This will be an exciting time for all of us here in Serbia.
DeleteДобро дошли China Southern!
Belgrade will have great numbers this autumn / winter.
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DeleteYes especially since LOT, Aegean, Lufthansa and Austrian Airlines have all announced increases for this winter.
DeleteWizz Air should increase in winter too. Will be loaded soon.
DeleteGood news. More choice and connections through a major hub.
ReplyDeleteMassive airline
ReplyDeleteI had no idea they are such a large airline.
DeleteThey fly to so many places
DeleteCan't wait to see them in BEG.
ReplyDeleteWhat is going to be an equipment operating this flight?
ReplyDeleteit says in the article
Delete"... with the airline expected to deploy its Dreamliner jets on the route."
DeleteJU's first CAN-BEG flight is almost sold out. If this trend continues then we might see CZ's B777 in BEG.
DeleteWhat is the capacity on their Dreamliner?
DeleteB787-8 has 266 seats
DeleteB787-9 has 276 seats
Thanks. Not a very big difference between the two types.
DeleteThey will use an ATR to fly the route 😆 🤣 😂 😹....
DeleteLike JU to NUE today. lol
DeleteI'm obviously joking about ATR
DeleteDidn’t JU once fly the ATR to CPH?
DeleteNo. That was B&H Airlines.
DeleteThat would be one long flight!
DeleteFurthest Air Serbia sent the ATR was to Berlin.
DeleteATR is decent plane, i liked flying on it more than crj200 or the embrj 135
DeleteBut after an hour you really notice how slow it is compared to a jet. The trip to Berlin would have been nearly 45 minutes to an hour longer than on a 737 or A319.
DeleteThey also sent it to STR, it was that period of time in winter when their operations were reduced on a daily basis. I think it was 2016 or 2017.
DeleteGood to see more wide bodies at Belgrade airport. Always good to see them take off and land from an AV geek perspective. Noticed more of the cargo wide bodies taking off as well from Beg. All positive signs.
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DeleteI wonder if we will see more Chinese carriers start flights to BEG in the next year or two.
ReplyDeleteWould be nice to get either Air China or China Eastern Airlines.
DeleteMaybe China Eastern starts when Air Serbia announces Shanghai :D
DeleteWouldn't be surprised.
DeleteNot gonna happen.
DeleteExcellent news. Any idea when Air Serbia may announce Shanghai flights?
ReplyDeleteThey said it would start by the end of the year. My guess is December.
DeleteWill they have same flight schedule as JU?
ReplyDelete143 landings at BEG today! Record, I think
ReplyDeleteCrazy! I think previous record was 136!
Delete141 departures, 75 destination, 34 countries, 19 companies. And as i saw very few delays. Pretty good dsy for ANT
DeleteProblem is that JU leaves BEG on time but then the airport there delays them. Look at LH A321 this morning, it was like an hour late because of ATC restrictions.
DeleteAnd 126 departures tomorrow which is crazy for a Saturday. In winter they barely had 50.
DeleteAdmin do we know when BEG will publish their numbers for June?
Next Tuesday, July 16.
DeleteChina Southern will most likely start sales for this route in middle of August if they are starting flights late September.
ReplyDeleteI'm interested in the fares and whether they will be similar to JU's.
DeleteIf Air Serbia starts Shangai this year as well, i think we might see Seoul or Tokyo in 2025 along with Miami and maybe they will also launch Toronto.
ReplyDeleteLong haul expansion depends on additional aircraft entering fleet. Third A330 should be in the works now according to this info from couple of weeks ago: Air Serbia will take delivery of its third wide-body jet in late July or early August, with the aircraft booked to go into maintenance at Lufthansa Technic on July 1.
DeleteLove it.
DeleteLet's hope they also refurbish the enterior.
ICN and NRT long way off!
DeleteICN and NRT would be spiffing as they can overfly Russia on their way there. Lufthansa just announced that they are reducing FRA-ICN this winter from 5 to 3 weekly.
DeleteLessors don’t allow it. See Tianjin routing versus Hainan PEK flights.
DeleteNonsense. TSN doesn't overfly Russia because it's not worth paying €1 million per year for Siberian overflight rights just to save 10 minutes of flying time. BEG is quite to the south so Russian airspace doesn't change much. The other day Hainan from BEG also followed a southern route bypassing Russia.
DeleteLessors don’t want their planes stuck in Russia. They contractually prohibit it.
DeleteNot all lessors, there are those that don't mind their planes flying there.
Deletehttps://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2023/01/aircraft-leasing-insurance-change-new-exclusions-for-russia-belarus
DeleteThose aircraft overflying Russia are owned outright by their airlines. JU does not own its A330s.
DeleteAnon 08:19 " TSN doesn't overfly Russia because it's not worth paying €1 million per year for Siberian overflight rights just to save 10 minutes of flying time"
DeleteThat's true. It was mentioned here two years ago: "apart from seeking discounts for handling and landing fees at China’s airports, the state is also negotiating reduced overflight costs for Air Serbia with Russia and China". Looks like Air Serbia got a better deal from China than Russia.
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2022/02/air-serbia-china-flights-in-advanced.html
Seems like Hainan also switched to a southern route, they are operating it like this for a few weeks now.
DeleteWorld events and financial markets have overtaken a 2022 article. No one wants a plane stuck in Russia during a diversion. You probably don’t remember how it took Norwegian to get an aircraft out of Iran because of US sanctions and parts could not be exported to Iran.
DeleteAnonymous 9.10 would be great for us Aussies to have connection from Australia to China then onto Belgrade!!!
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DeleteThere will also be one stop via IST when TK starts non stops to Australia. So plenty of one stop options not just QR and EK/FZ.
DeleteTK will not fly non-stop, they will have a technical stop in SIN.
DeleteNext year non-stop flights start. Please google.
Deletehttps://www.executivetraveller.com/news/turkish-airlines-non-stop-sydney-melbourne-australia-flights
DeleteEven in the past we didn't need Chinese visas for Australian passport holders, like many other nationalities we could get 72h transit airport visa. Yes from 1st July, no visa needed for up to 15 days.
ReplyDeleteLast week flew Hainan Airlines from syd-hak-pek-ikt all with Hainan ,great product, excellent service . Aircraft types A330 to PKK then B737 to IKT.
Can't wait to see CZ to Beg , definitely will do this next time , I am sure they will have great fares to Europe . Sometimes from Australia u can get rt ticket to Europe for 1000$aud. Asian cities rt approximately 400-600$aud.
I am sure CZ will match Australia inbound flights to CAN to match Europe departures time slots. Considering some of the cities have double daily flights , it will be easy as....
ReplyDeleteWell hopefully Qatar and Emirates reduce prices because they are astronomic to Australia.
ReplyDeleteFor decades they enjoyed a near monopoly on the Australia-Europe market. With China entering the game the aviation world as we know it is about to radically change.
DeleteExcellent!
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