Aircraft manufacturer Embraer will present its E195-E2 “Profit Hunter” aircraft in Belgrade next month. As EX-YU Aviation News learns from verified sources, the E2 jet will be showcased at Belgrade Nikola Tesla Airport on September 17 and will perform a demonstration flight as well. It comes as Air Serbia prepares to add its first two E195-E1s to the fleet, with plans to potentially boast up to fifteen of the type. It will mark the first time in years the Brazilian plane maker has presented its commercial aircraft in Belgrade. Previously, the Embraer E170 was presented in September 2004 when Air Serbia’s predecessor, Jat Airways, expressed interest in acquiring the jet. Back then it operated a demonstration flight between Belgrade and Podgorica.
Embraer recently told EX-YU Aviation News that the E195-E2 is a “striking fit” for the Serbian national airline. “Embraer has a very good relationship with the management team of Air Serbia and we regularly exchange thoughts on industry matters and business development topics. Air Serbia took an impressive development since its launch and we also took notice of their efforts in navigating through and out of the pandemic. With our E2 family we believe to have a striking fit for Air Serbia and will support their team for any future fleet evaluations”, Embraer said.
The largest aircraft in the E-Jet E2 family, the E195-E2 has been designed to maximise returns and efficiency on high-density routes. With its high-aspect ratio wings and swept tips, combined with other aerodynamic improvements, the E195-E2 achieves double digit lower fuel consumption compared to current-generation E-Jets. Pawel Skuteli, Embraer’s Regional Director for Airline Marketing EMEA, told EX-YU Aviation News last year, “Efficient regional jets offer more flexibility and can serve as route-openers on markets that would be too thin for a larger narrow-body or too far away for a turboprop aircraft. E-Jets also help to tackle seasonality, one of the key challenges for airlines in the region. Historically, capacity in January has been at only 40% of what it is in August. Efficient regional jets are a perfect tool to maintain connectivity by replacing larger aircraft in low-demand months”. He added, “This is especially important when an airline is developing a hub just like Air Serbia is. We have seen new wide-body aircraft joining its fleet. With the increased number of long-haul flights, there will be a need for more spokes and more frequencies to feed the network year-round. E-Jets are proven hub-feeders for major airlines in Europe flying complementary to narrow-bodies from main airports, on markets that require either increased frequencies or smaller capacity aircraft”.
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ReplyDeleteJealousy always lurks around romance.
DeleteI would call E195e2 for Air Serbia, money printing machine!
DeleteEmbraer is the best type of aircraft for Air Serbia
DeleteDon't E2 planes also have some technical problem with engines?
ReplyDeleteSame as A220
DeleteYes, look at KLM
DeleteSame as A320neo.
DeleteAs long as they don't fix that problem JU should concentrate on E1 only.
DeleteThey are cheaper as they are older and they do not have known technical problems.
How does their fuelburn compare with the A319s.
DeleteMany thanks for any info.
Anon 09:14
DeleteProblems are fixed.
If the engine issues have been fixed, why are people so anti A220 then, I don't understand it. The A220 is a much more capable aircraft and JU is unlikely to order any new E2s so I am not sure what the purpose of this visit is.
DeleteNo one is anti A220, it just makes no sense for JU because they need something in between ATR snd A320 capacity wise, and the A220 isn't it.
Delete"I am not sure what the purpose of this visit is."
DeleteThe people at Embraer surely should have contacted you to give them your expert advice why they should not visit.
If they are coming, someone from JU showed some interest in their product
DeleteWow nice
ReplyDeleteLOT just got its first E2. Looks nice
ReplyDeleteProfit hunter - that sounds so cringe :)
ReplyDeleteNo, it's cool
DeleteLast time Embraer sent a plane to BEG :)
ReplyDeletehttps://www.airliners.net/photo/Embraer/Embraer-170LR-ERJ-170-100LR/680846/L?qsp=eJwljcEKwjAQRP9lzjlYSgVz07vowR9YNlst1DZsNmAp/XeT9jZv4M2s4Hky%2BdlriQKPJKT8gUMkpW%2BCX0GDslJvd5pyT2xZReGbzhU1T6YLfNtdHNKsdiuAQCZXZokmAUf/0FAlBEm8j7/rWXOqWfR5YHsuGIYUR9pnxGgYsW1/Fa82UQ%3D%3D
It will not be the first time in twenty years the Brazilian plane maker has presented its commercial aircraft in Belgrade. E2 jet was already presented here, interestingly on the same date, although 5 years ago - https://www.jetphotos.com/showphotos.php?aircraft=all&airline=all&country-location=country%253BSerbia&photographer-group=all&category=all&keywords-type=reg&keywords-contain=0&keywords=pr-ziq&photo-year=all&width=&height=&genre=all&search-type=Advanced&sort-order=0
DeleteEmbraer are obviously being active in the region and trying to sell their jet.
ReplyDeleteThanks, but no thanks. If Embraer would like to help, then fix quickly OY-GDC so JU can use it.
ReplyDeleteE2 series may be useful when new engines becomes reliable
They are not a charity. Why should they fix anyone's plane?
DeleteBecause they could get JU as a potential customer.
DeleteThe plane can only be written off, so no one will be fixing it.
DeleteNo one says that they should do it for free. I believe that insurance should pay for the repairs. I said quickly, which is more of importance for JU, desperately needed those birds. And this one is already in JU livery and at BEG.
DeleteI don't know how you don't understand that the damage sustained by the plane is too large for it to be fixed, especially considering its age. It will be written off and on top of that, the plane is not owned by JU so they have no say what happens with the plane. The livery being painted is the most unimportant aspect.
DeleteI believe that you are completely wrong. Plane flew one hour after the incident and have no decompression, which means that no structural damage is made. Other question is the price of the repair. Is it cheaper to fix it or to sell undamaged parts from it and scrap it? After the conclusion of the investigation process, probably insurance will pay for the plane to the previous owner (DAT) and become legal owner. Then they will decide about the fate of the plane.
Delete@ 09:45 It might have remained in flight for an hour but at a relatively low altitude and with negligible pressure differential. Add material fatigue and stress on secondary parts during accident and it can quickly run the price of complete repairs way higher. No need to sink resources into it.
DeleteYes, that’s what I am talking about. Presence of Embraer company should be used to extra evaluate state of the plane and maybe make a good and quick deal for possible repair, if there’s is any mathematics for that. Embraer, on their side should make maximal discounts to help AirSerbia get another of their planes in the fleet. Later, for that gesture of good will, JU may order new planes from Embraer before other companies.
DeleteIf there was mathematics in that, they would repair the plane. But there apparently is none.
DeleteAnon9:14 "If Embraer would like to help, then fix quickly OY-GDC so JU can use it."
DeleteAre you a child? If not, are you okay?
@9:45 It has a plane stuck in the wing, get over it, it is not JU's plane anyway and there are plenty of other planes around. Move on.
DeleteMeant to say pole stuck in the wing.
Delete@Anon 09:14 you should stop watching Tiktok videos where chinese people fix totally wrecked cars. It does not work that way in aviation. Also, +100 for Anon 11:24
DeletePlenty of other planes?? You are definitely not quite aware of the aviation market. Planes and crews are all but “plenty” right now
DeleteYes, the Marathon planes were the only ones available anywhere in the world. We must spend infinite resources to repair a one of a kind rare plane type. Get real, they were the cheapest provider and airlines all around the world are dumping their E1s for A220s.
Delete"and airlines all around the world are dumping their E1s for A220s."
DeleteYes, LOT is a prime example. They just got their first E2s. I sometimes wonder why someone just blatantly lies, trying to present something as fact that can easily be checked. I guess that is why people like Alen Scuric do well in this region.
E2s are not E1s! Different plane.
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DeleteSince you don't understand how precious every plane in good condition is, I will try to simplify for you why should JU bother with OY-GDC.
Owner is not Marathon, but danish DAT. JU already leased 2 planes from them, so they offer good deal and planes are in a good condition. Also, all three planes have same seats and same seat configuration and would be no need for further expenses for unification of fleet hardware(which is one of main problems for JU). I already mentioned JU livery as further benefit for AirSerbia.
So having this plane for, let's say next summer, would be good deal for JU. Of course, JU should not pay for repair or spend own resources as you imply, but could push Embraer officials, DAT and insurance in right direction. Just to remind that JU took two years to find just 2 A330 with good deal, so for 13 more Embraers would presumably take a lot longer
What don’t you get? It is both unsafe and uneconomical to repair.
DeleteAnon 15:07 He is not doing that well in the region. Airlines are not inviting him to major press events. Professionals know he's no expert.
DeleteWhat is the list price for E195-E2?
ReplyDeleteJudging by how there isn't a major backlog, I think you can get them relatively cheaply if you buy directly from Embraer, if you lease I have no idea
DeleteApproximately
DeleteE175-E2 - US$56,4 million
E190-E2 - US$64,6 million
E192-E2 - US$72,8 million
WOW, that's very expensive for an aircraft of this size! 😮
DeleteI had no idea they cost that much.
No they dont. These are fake numbers. If A320neo doesn't cost more than 60 mil., it is logical there is no way E2 costs 70 mil.
DeleteUsually the manufacturer gives discount to airlines base of number aircraft’s they order. 195E2 has capacity of 136 seat and basically will be 319 replacement, so not really regional Jet.
DeleteThere's no way an A320NEO costs only 60mil, maybe for orders of dozens or hundreds of aircraft. Have in mind that A320 is hot demands and therefore the price goes up.
DeleteInteresting to note recently Virgin Australia ordered 8 E290s for an estimate of under 400 million which means they got a decent discount so roughly 50mil per airframe which is a bargain for a next gen 100-seater I'd say
Embraer is desperate as aircraft is not selling well compared to A220.
DeleteAnon 15:18
DeleteYou have no idea what is a list price.
@19:12
DeleteYou really brought nothing to the discussion
Ok Alen Šćuric.
DeleteIs this the first time? Didn't Belavia send its E2 to BEG some years ago?
ReplyDeleteIt says it is the first time in 20 years that Embraer has sent its commercial aircraft. Not that it is the first time E2 has landed in Belgrade.
DeleteBelavia sent it upon E's request, this is the second time they are pitching the plane to JU. Unfortunately JU is still too poor to afford it.
DeleteEmbraers are a very reliable and efficient aircraft and already used by so many European airlines.
ReplyDeleteReally looking forward seeing Embraers around
ReplyDeleteIt is just time and money loss for Embraer to talk to Air Serbia. They will just lease planes
ReplyDeleteIsn't it something that helps Embraer too?
DeleteJU will lease the planes from leasing company and leasing company must buy a plane from Embraer.
So it means sold plane for them in any case.
Embraer gets a new customer. It does not matter if that customer bought an aircraft directly, or have just leased it from ACMI provider, or leasing company. He is the customer. They help with maintenance, crew training, everything. It was always the case, and it will always will be the case.
DeleteAnon 9:37 You forgot to say that when A220 was showcased for other customer in the region. All those planes ended being leased but you didn't object to that. Dual standards as always.
DeleteObviously a good option for JU.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad to see that Embraer is engaged and are in contact with Air Serbia.
ReplyDeleteGood plane for passengers, bad for cargo
ReplyDeleteWhy?
DeleteCargo compartment is small in size compared to A319
DeleteI doubt they carry much cargo to secondary destinations where they will be sending Embraers.
DeleteLjubljana Belgrade for example has 1-2 daily cargo only flights alone in addition to JU, so for some markets it's pretty big
DeleteThose LJU cargo flights are not for local demand, they are used by UPS and TNT. They would not send belly hold cargo with any commercial airline in any case.
DeleteIts cargo capacity is smaller than the A319 because the aircraft is smaller.
Deletei think there is industry standard for aviation cargo pallets. the embraer cannot take those pallets.
DeleteAir Serbia Airbuses do not take ULD containers - baggage is taken manually into cargo hold (as well as cargo). No specific pallets.
DeleteWell, that's inefficient given that the A320 series is designed for containerised cargo. I am sure JU's birds can take it but they choose not to. I am not aware of any specific limitations around the A319s preventing containers.
DeleteIt is a sensible solution for the future in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteI think E Jet can wonders for JU especially in developing eastern European routes, similarly like what it has done for LOT. JU needs frequencies to compete, while in places where there's not that much p2p demand E90 is cheaper to fly than A319 and more popular with passengers compared to ATR. Hopefully they build a serious E90/E95 fleet in the coming years
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DeleteThe A319 is no longer an efficient aircraft and slowly being phased out by many carriers. However, it's also worth mentioning that the E2 did not sell well either due to the A220. A220 is just a way much better and good product. However, Embraers are very reliable and count on them similar to the ATRs.. it all depends on how you look at it. Good luck, JU.
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DeleteWhat global expert decided A220 is "just a way much better and good product" than E2? Please provide source, than you.
Delete@11:39
DeleteThe market did.
@11:39 is the A220 is the best in breed and clean sheet design. The E2 is based on a private jet design, just stretched and rewinged.
DeleteA220 has orders, just because of the name “Airbus”. If it would stayed Bombardier, it would be long closed and forgotten
Delete^LOL
DeleteThat’s not true. It was suffering from uncertainty from A320neo and 737MAX competition. In light of 737MAX issues, Bombardier would have sold them like hotcakes. It was all in the timing. I am sure Boeing regrets not buying the program itself. This is the best short haul plane currently in production from an efficiency, environmental and customer satisfaction point of view.
DeleteAnon12:06 just waited for someone to say that. If you knew a thing or two about aviation, scope clauses in the US affected sales far more than someone claiming A220 is a better airplane than E2. They are both great planes. Try to understand the matter before making claims
DeleteSince when is clean sheet design better than new generation? Development and certification for clean sheet takes longer as there are more kinks to work out
DeleteYou do realise that the a220 is stretchable and has been eating a319’s lunch? Scope clauses impact e170 and e175 not CS300! We are not talking about regional jets anymore! Just waiting until Airbus launches the A220-500 and see what a true profit hunter does! And Boeing does not just supply US airlines where such arbitrary rules apply so I don’t even understand what you are trying to say.
Delete@15:27 Tell that to 737MAX-10 and 777X team. A350 and A220 are killing it and sold out!
DeleteA220 is the aircraft for the future for sure and will dominate the single aisle market for decades to come. E2 on the other hand is not a bad aircraft, but rather a response to C Series at the time by stretching the existing design near it's limits. It's a regional jet made into mainline one, not saying it makes it inferior, but that has it's drawbacks in comparison to A220. In the end E2 is a suitable and reasonable cheaper alternative for that market
DeleteIt has been said a million times why the A220 does not suit Air Serbia. JU needs something in between ATR and A320 capacity wise, and the A220 isn't it.
DeleteExcuses, excuses! And yet they operate a319s?
DeleteFirst of all you should calm down. You seem highly aggressive. Second of all, had you actually followed any developments from Air Serbia, you would know that they have explicitly said they will phase out the A319s in the coming years. As their leases expire they are replacing them with A320s. They have also explicitly said multiple times that they need an aircraft that has the capacity between ATR and Airbus A320. If you read the article from yesterday you might even learn why they want an aircraft of that size.
DeleteA320NEO family is not a clean sheet design and is fantastic. Just because Boeing did what it did with MAX does not prove clean sheet is better. It proves you still don't know enough to be called an expert.
DeleteAna 15:30 Just waiting until Airbus launches the A220-500 and see what a true profit hunter does!
DeleteLOL i have been waiting for almost a decade and it didn't happen. It won't happen. You still don't get it
Wow! You were waiting for a derivative of the CS300/A220 to launch 10 years ago when in fact its first cerification and entry into service was 7-8 years ago. Really strange that one!
DeleteA220 is the only plane you can't use in full capacity when it's "too hot outside". Maximum 80% That is beyond ridiculousness. That's a toy, not a plane. Hope not to see it ever in JU fleet
DeleteStop spreading misinfirmation. If that was the case, airlines all over the world be suing Airbus. Qantas in Australia and Delta in America is doing just fine operating at full capacity in the hot environment of Australian and Utah desert. Air Tanzania and Egyptair operate in hot African deserts with no problem.
DeleteAnon 22:38 Don't engage if you can't tell the difference betweeen almost 10 years and 10 years. And yes, talks about the second strech were ongoing before entry intro service.
DeleteThere was no way Bombardier was ever going to launch the first stretch (because the CS100 was effectively a shrink as the two were developed side by side) until it could get orders and certification. No manufacturer's programme has ever done that so I am not sure why you were expecting that from cash strapped Bombardier. The reason why Airbus is delaying A221/A220-300 is because it would cannibalise A320neo sales. The A220-300 has already done that to the A319neo.
DeleteKudos to Embraer sales for pointing out E jets could help Air Serbia tackle long-haul seasonality.
ReplyDeleteAny idea what time the plane will be arriving? Spotter here :D
ReplyDeleteNot sure, but if no one replies, look for PR-ZIQ on Flight Radar.
DeleteIt is pitty that Embraer gave up the idea to build turboprop.
ReplyDeleteI have been flying on Embraers for twenty years. They are the most comfortable and reliable planes in the industry.
ReplyDeleteReally? Oh, just take a look at a 5-year-old Embraer cabin, and then have a glance at a Bus or even a Boeing—quality is practically oozing out, right? They're so "reliable" that Helvetic had to bring in 10 extra E1s—yep, a whole 50% more—just to keep up with the stellar reliability of the E2. Impressive, isn't it?
DeleteAirbus employee identified...
DeleteAirbus don’t care.
DeleteThen they should definitely pay you. You are doing their PR work throughout the day today. You must have posted 20 comments at least glorifying the A220.
DeleteJust highlighting facts for people who seem to think that old E1s are panacea for JU when in fact the opposite is true all around the world and airlines are desperate to get rid of them. And there were many others sharing similar views not just me.
DeleteNO PLESE! NOT WITH NEW ENGINES! We already saw so many issues with this engine!
ReplyDeleteWe will have aircraft repaired most frequesntly, flight cancelations, decreasements of PW for each destination theese aircrafts serve! Same problems are as with A220 - basicly same engine from same manufacturer!
Wholle western industry is lacking skilled workers, "management" is focusing on "decreasing costs" in order to maximize profit! For this reason Boeing already has problems as well as all A320NEO and A220! I believe we shall wait for "NEO" at least for another 2-3 years and hold orders untill they fix all issues!
If we are to have reliable aircraft - I believe existing E195 is good choice! Cheaper and more reliable!
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DeleteAnd less fuel efficient!
DeleteDon't the engine issues affect older engines from earlier production? Pretty sure most of the new aircraft rolling out of the factories aren't affected to that extent as those
Delete100%. That’s the line used by those who like older aircraft types.
DeleteWhat’s the difference between the E1 and E2?
ReplyDeleteIt's stretched to fit more seats and it has new generation engines. Those are the main things.
DeleteWelcome E190, obviously A319, what is back bone of ASL is outdated even before entered in service.Definetely ASL need few 321, and few more 320,so, if with ATR and E190( 100 seater, as DC9 was), they van cover variety of pax demand.Finaly planing start work, 10 years after
ReplyDeleteAirSerbia should drop ATR and instead of ATR they should take E175/E195 E1 or E2. Same crew can operate, same spare parts, same maintenance crew etc…
ReplyDeleteYes 175 is less efficient than ATR but it have more advantages, catIII landing, APU, more cargo space
Nobody ordered E175e2 so AirSerbia should order it and become launch customer and maybe they can get better price because they are the first company that ordered that type
80 seater regional jets just don't do too well outside of US. Your average traveller would prefer it over turboprop, but the cost is an issue. A lot of airlines seem to rather go for a larger jet instead of the E75 for the same reason
DeleteE175 is for US market. Everyone else wants larger aircraft which use tge same amount of fuel.
ReplyDeleteI personally feel the E190e2 is a better fit for Air Serbia, but the E195e2 can also fill that gap when they switch out the A319s. I feel like Air Serbia has the chance here to try new technology and give it a chance
ReplyDeleteE290 is just gonna become what A319 has over the years.
DeleteAlmost same operating cost as 320, works well for those airlines that are using them in small airports with short runways, where it's takeoff and climb performance is needed, like AA does for some Central American and Caribbean destinations. Thinking a bit more into the future, JU should go for E295 if that decision will ever materialise.
There is no such plane as an E295. It is called E195-E2!
DeleteFun fact last 5 articles on the blog have had Embraer on their cover photo. Really shows it's the right airplane for the region
ReplyDeleteHaha true
DeleteAnother fun fact: when BA and LO expand using Embraer jets for regional destinations then it's a perfect plane, no objections. Hypocrites come out of the dark only once Air Serbia also finds Embraer good fit for the job.
DeleteBA and LO have been operating this type for a long time. It is not a new type where they just started acquiring old E1s!
DeleteDoes not dispute what was said by Anon 22:33
DeleteEmbraer Service Center in Niš, or no deal!
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