China has proposed for the establishment of nonstop flights to Slovenia, signalling a push to strengthen ties and enhance collaboration in trade, tourism, and cultural exchange. The announcement came during a recent visit by Slovenia’s Minister for the Economy, Tourism and Sport, Matjaž Han, to China along with a high-powered business delegation. Ling Ji, China’s Vice Minister and Deputy China International Trade Representative of Commerce, said the country would work on “establishing an air bridge” between the two countries, noting that introducing flights would significantly enhance convenience, as well as encourage greater movement of people and goods.
There have never been scheduled nonstop flights between the two countries. In 2013, Ljubljana Airport held talks with China Southern Airlines, upon the initiative of the airport’s CEO at the time, while a year later, the airline expressed interest in acquiring a stake in then flag carrier Adria Airways, as well as Ljubljana Airport. The government eventually settled to sell Adria Airways to a German turnaround fund, while the airport operator was sold to Germany’s Fraport. In 2016, the Chinese Embassy in Ljubljana launched an initiative for flights between the two countries to be established, with a proposal for Hainan Airlines to operate its service from Beijing to Prague via the Slovenian capital. Ultimately, the airline launched operations to Belgrade via Prague. In 2017, the Slovenian government advanced discussions with the Civil Aviation Administration of China after a carrier expressed interest in introducing flights between Xi’an and Ljubljana. However, the proposed service never materialised.
Chinese carriers have significantly ramped up their presence in Europe, flooding the continent with capacity and cheap fares as European airlines retreat from China over increased costs fuelled by the ongoing flight ban through Russian airspace. Chinese carriers have launched nonstop flights to smaller European markets, including Luxembourg, while recent permit requests have unveiled plans by Chinese carriers to introduce operations to the likes of Bucharest. Just over 34.000 Chinese tourists visited Slovenia last year with 66.570 overnight stays. Chinese tourists on average spend just two nights in Slovenia. Last month, China waived visa requirements for Slovenian citizens, enabling passport holders to visit the country for up to sixteen days without a visa. China is Slovenia’s most important trading partner in Asia. Almost 5.000 Slovenian importers and 500 Slovenian exporters do business with the country
Luxembourg, Bucharest, Slovenia...but nothing about Zagreb.
ReplyDeleteCroatia should do more to attract flights from China.
DeleteIf Slovenia gets flights from China the chances for Croatia are very slim especially if we take in consideration already existing flights from Belgrade (Hainan, Air Serbia, China Southern).
DeleteAgree unfortunately
Delete@09:03
DeleteOnly prestigious carriers fly to ZAG, remember?
China Southern is less prestigious than Ryanair?
DeleteCZ is probably the best or second best Chinese carrier alongside Hainan.
DeleteGuys, you didn't understand sarcasm about prestigious. Never mind, it was long time ago, when EK starts ZAG flights.
DeleteThe Bucharest thing is quite interesting. Three different airlines have applied to start flights there. Whether it actually happens is another thing.
DeleteIf Ljubljana gets China flights I'm Donald Trump.
DeleteAnd Zagreb has flights to Seoul for some time already, flights to Asia which Belgrade didn't have at a time when it got China flights. Thats one of the reason
Zagreb does not have flights to Seoul. They have been cancelled. Belgrade got flights to China in 2017 which was before Zagreb got flights to Seoul.
DeleteI would be more happy to see flights from Zagreb to Japan or Singapore than to China.
DeleteZagreb still has Seoul flights, nobody from T'Way has official cancelled it. And before T'Way, it was Korean Air.
DeleteEmirates, Korean Air...prestigous airlines folks are talking about, not sure if you are familiar with these type of airlines. Maybe you just used to one airline...
Neither Emirates or Korean fly to Zagreb. The only two long haul flights, soon to be officially one, to Zagreb are operated seasonally by LCCs.
DeleteHope it happens. There are a lot of Chinese tourists visiting Slovenia and they could also use Slovenia as an entry point to Croatia.
ReplyDeleteSlovenia is a great market for Chinese. Has absolutely every they want to see.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteThis would be great if it happened.
ReplyDeleteEveryone trying to get China flights except Croatia
ReplyDeleteCroatian PM said 2 years ago how it order to get flights to China the government needs to do more to negotiate them. Since then his governments have done nothing about it.
DeletePeople will hate on this but one or two flights per week to Beijing would work in my opinion. Also there is a lot of Chinese tourists in Slovenia in the last years as well as from other Asian countries.
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DeleteI think if this were to work the flights should be close to wherever Hisense is located (and I have no clue where this is :))
DeleteIt's closer to Maribor I believe but the difference is minimal. And there's more Chinese people in Ljubljana as well
DeleteGorenje is in the middle, taking approx. an hour to get to either Ljubljana or Maribor
DeleteIs there some sort of Chinese investment in Pipistrel too or I mixed something up?
DeleteThey have factory there.
DeleteHisense is from Qingdao/Tsingtao (depends on the speling), it’s a really nice city with a ton of german influence between Shanghai and Beijing. Even though it has 7 million people, it only has two weekely flights to London and no other european cities. So i don’t think that connection will be established.
DeleteBravo Fraport!
ReplyDeleteYeah they are very involved...
DeleteSad thing is Zmago Skobir was talking to China Southern 10 yrs ago
Delete@9:12 are you a conspiracy theorist?
Delete@9.15 why is that sad?
DeleteBecause airport was more active 10 years ago than now.
DeleteCurrently leadership just collects their paychecks while finding things to blame as to why airlines are not flying
DeleteTrue
DeleteThere are more airlines flying to LJU as ever before.
DeleteAgain this guy 😃
DeleteAnd it's the truth. Nice to use ad hominem, when you do not have a counterargument.
DeleteYour usual counterargument is making up things.
DeleteI think Slovenia as a country has a lot to offer. It's already doing well in attracting Chinese tourists. It is also close by to many countries so a good entry way to Central/East Europe. We will see.
ReplyDeleteYou solved your own problem. Slovenia is already attracting Chinese tourist despite there being no direct flights.
DeleteIt could be doing better, that's the point. Why stop at 30k per year when you can have 60k. These flights could also bring in connecting passengers from Korea and Japan
DeleteInteresting that Slovenia also tried to get Hainan to reroute their Prague flight
ReplyDeleteI wonder what BEG did to get these flights instead of LJU.
DeleteBigger market size for the same airport fees
DeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteThe boom in traffic between China and Europe will certainly go into Slovenia's favour.
ReplyDeleteI don't get the China - Luxembourg flights. Is there demand?
ReplyDeleteCargo
DeleteChina has over 1 billion people. 2 weekly flights to anywhere would likely find demand.
DeleteExactly. Pretty much any capital city in Europe can work.
DeleteYes, that is why Bucharest, Sofia, Zagreb, Oslo, Riga and the likes all have direct flights to China.
DeleteThree airlines have applied to fly between Bucharest and China. Oslo had flights to Beijing until covid and they will restart soon. Listing Sofia and Zagreb as examples of not having flights to China says more about them.
DeleteOk great. Government should work on bringing Chinese airline but Ljubljana Airport should work on bringing more European airlines and perhaps flights to Middle East.
ReplyDeleteLjubljana Airport should work on bringing both international and European airlines. Unfortunately, it has left that job to the government.
DeleteGreat news for Slovenia!
ReplyDeleteA couple of years ago China Southern Airlines wanted to buy LJU? They were in the running against Fraport and Vinci. Had they won, we probably would have already had flights between Ljubljana and China.
ReplyDeleteA lot of things would have happened had Fraport not won.
DeleteFlights to China would definitely make the LJU more competitive.
DeleteI wouldn't say Fraport has done nothing. Passenger growth has been impressive
DeleteFor sure impressive :)
DeleteWeakest connectivity of any capital airport in Europe btw :)
DeleteCalculated by that one Slovenian guy who wants a nice new government job and presented as some sort of science.
DeleteIt is not calculated by anyone in Slovenia it is calculated by Airport Council International.
DeleteLJU has the best air connectivity 😃
DeleteAnonimno00:17
DeleteIzračunal tisti en Slovenec, ki si želi lepo novo državno službo in predstavljen kot nekakšna znanost.
Napisal tisti, ki ima alergijo do nacionalnega prevoznika in je prepričan, da bo svobodni trg vse rešil. Rezultati so po 5 letih vidni in bodo še dolgo.
I will be happy when a Chinese airline actually touches down. Until then, wishful thinking
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteWould be great if it materializes.
ReplyDeleteIn same time Qantas, Emirates, United, Air Canada, SAA and TACA will come to Lubljana. Inauguration flights will be same day with freueqencies 4 times per day
DeleteHilarious...
DeleteFirst try to secure QR or EY.
ReplyDeleteThere is already Flydubai
DeleteQR has a fleet shortage due to their feud with Airbus while Etihad doesn't serve any destination in the region lol
DeleteThey could have secured QR before it had issues with its fleet.
DeleteIf it were charters then I think it could work
ReplyDeleteDo it for the spotters please! :D
ReplyDeleteWhich option do Chinese passengers use the most to reach Ljubljana at the moment?
ReplyDeleteI assume Turkish Airlines.
DeleteBudapest and then bus to Ljubljana
DeleteI wonder how many fly with Air Serbia
DeleteIt's Turkish all the way; Evening flight has 90min connection to Shanghai, Beijing and a few other Chinese destinations, and then China connection is perfect for the morning flight with 120min connection to the morning arrival to Ljubljana
DeleteMakes sense. Thanks
DeleteBig if true.
ReplyDeleteIncredible. Maribor might get flights to Saudi Arabia, Ljubljana maybe to China and Iceland. Slovenia is on fire 🔥
ReplyDeleteHopefully some flights will materialize 🤞
Nothing will happen.
DeleteLet's wait and see
DeleteSlovenia has a good Tourist Board that could market the country well to Chinese tour operators.
ReplyDeleteIf Slovenia is serious about getting these flights, then now is the time. As soon as a Chinese airline starts flying to Croatia, the chances of flights to Ljubljana will become much slimmer.
DeleteThere are currently no plans for a direct air link between Croatia and China.
DeleteThey are Chinese policemen in Croatia during the tourist season. Croatian tourism is promoting in China too.
DeleteIt needs to do more to secure flights. It is the only major tourists hotspot in Europe without nonstop flights to China. Everyone has them - Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Greece....
DeleteAhh.... Remember when there was some action on China to ZAD flights some yrs ago... Hainan was it?
DeleteLjubljana needs improved connectivity to other European countries first.
ReplyDeleteGovernment is working on it too. They are offering subsidies
DeleteThey would make hella lot more sense than the Saudi Arabia ones
ReplyDeleteBravo for Slovenia! 😃
ReplyDeleteHisense have bought out Gorenje, so never know
ReplyDeleteNumber of Chinese visitors is still relatively low but there is potential.
ReplyDeleteIt's still below pre Covid numbers.
Delete34k in 2023 vs 100k in 2019
Delete100k is a great number.
DeleteAt least the government is doing something. Otherwise, Fraport does nothing.
ReplyDeleteIf this materializes, would this be the first scheduled long haul flights from Ljubljana since Yugoslav times?
ReplyDeleteI think Adria flew to the Seychelles but not sure if it was just before the Yugoslav breakup or after.
Delete"Through its history, Ljubljana Airport used to be linked to Africa by both JAT Yugoslav Airlines and Adria Airways. After purchasing four used DC-6Bs in 1961, Adria initiated flights to Tunis, Conakry and Leopoldville, today known as Kinshasa. The Slovenian carrier also used to operate services to the Seychelles in the late 1980s, which ran via Athens and Djibouti. In 1990, an Adria A320 flew nonstop from the Seychelles to Athens setting a new record for the longest flight ever made by the aircraft type at that time. "
Deletehttps://www.exyuaviation.com/2021/10/ljubljana-sees-africa-leisure-flights.html
Is there anything that hasn't been covered on this site :D Thanks
DeleteThere were regular summer charters to Cleveland in 95 or 96 and to Tokio a few years ago, but both with 0,5/weekly frequency.. But for regular scheduled lines I think this would be the first after YU times
DeleteThere's no airline catering unit on LJU airport no more. No catering no long flights 🤔
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