KLM will introduce flights between Amsterdam and Ljubljana next year, marking its entry onto the Slovenian market. The carrier will inaugurate a daily service between the two cities starting March 30, which will be maintained with its 100-seat Embraer E190 aircraft. Flights between the two cities are currently maintained by Air France - KLM’s low cost subsidiary Transavia. At this point, it will continue to operate between the two with four weekly flights next summer maintained with a mix of the 232-seat Airbus A321neo and the 189-seat Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Tickets for KLM’s new Ljubljana operation can now be purchased through the airline’s website. Further flight details can be found here.
During the first three quarters of the year, Transavia carried a total of 45.771 passengers between Amsterdam and Ljubljana. The figure represents an increase of 51.3% on the same period in 2023 or an additional 15.510 customers. However, much of the growth was due to a lack of flights last year as Transavia suspended its service on the route between February and late March. During the first nine months of this year, its average cabin load factor between the two cities stood at 86%. Prior to the collapse of Slovenia’s flag carrier Adria Airways, in the summer of 2019, the Ljubljana - Amsterdam service was maintained eleven times per week - six weekly by Adria and five weekly by Transavia - meaning frequency levels between the two cities will be restored to pre-pandemic levels next summer.
Slovenia becomes the third market in the former Yugoslavia to be directly served by KLM. The airline also maintains operations to Croatia and Serbia. During the upcoming 2025 summer season, the Dutch carrier plans to maintain double daily flights to both Zagreb and Belgrade, along with a nine weekly service to Dubrovnik and twenty weekly to Split during peak season in July and August. Alongside its new Ljubljana service, it will boast a total of 64 weekly flights to the three markets. KLM becomes only the second member of the SkyTeam alliance to serve Ljubljana, complementing its group partner Air France.
Great addition!
ReplyDeleteI agree. This is a great alternative to LH, especially for people connecting to NA. Very welcome news.
DeleteGood to see. Now we will have the same number of flights to AMS as in 2019.
ReplyDeleteand more capacity than in 2019.
DeleteCan't believe it took KLM so long to come but better late than never.
ReplyDeletewhy KLM waited this long to enter the Slovenian market?
DeleteLack of slots in AMS, LH dominance in LJU and high costs (higher financial risk).
DeleteNice!
ReplyDeleteBOOM... this is how you do it. Daily flights with perfect connectivity.
ReplyDeleteGood job KL.
too late for NA and SA flights
DeleteNot really, here is what connections would be available today. Please be mindful of the fact that it's winter and there is less to offer than when hot summer days come and when there is more to be offered.
Delete14.55 KL BGO
14.55 SK CPH
15.00 DL DTW
15.05 KL SVG
15.05 KL GOT
15.10 KL NTE
15.15 KL CPH
15.15 KL YUL
15.30 KL LPI
15.35 KL MPL
15.40 KL BOD
15.45 KL LHR
15.45 KL EDI
15.55 KL GDN
16.00 KL DUB
16.05 KL PEK
16.05 KL GLA
16.10 KL ABZ
16.10 KL KRS
16.10 KL BSL
16.15 KL PRG
16.15 KL MAN
16.20 KL BHD
16.25 HV AGP
16.25 KL NCL
16.25 KL AAL
16.25 KL BER
16.30 KL LCY
16.30 KL OSL
16.35 AF CDG
16.35 KL BRS
16.35 KL LBA
16.35 KL NWI
16.40 KL LHR
16.40 KL BHX
16.40 KL CWL
16.40 KL STR
16.45 HV KEF
16.45 KL BLL
15.45 KL NUE
16.50 KL VRN
16.50 KL ATL
16.50 KL HAM
16.50 KL HAJ
16.50 KL LUX
16.55 KL CPH
16.55 KL KRK
16.55 KL BCN
16.55 KL FCO
16.55 KL BRE
17.00 KL WAW
17.00 KL BKK
17.00 KL MME
17.00 KL HUY
17.00 KL ARN
17.05 KL JFK
17.05 KL MAD
17.10 KL DUS
17.25 KL BOS
So there might not be a crazy number of NA destinations from LJU to AMS but there are some. Also don't forget that KL can combine its own flights with LJU-CDG.
Someone can fly JFK-AMS-LJU-CDG-JFK. Air France and KLM do similar things like Lufthansa Group.
What's the point of this list? The schedule is different in the summer.
DeleteNonsense. All of these destinations are offered at these times both in summer and winter. Please read more carefully before commenting. Typical Balkan.
DeleteI just picked one airport on your list based on where I am going in May (Bordeaux) and the connection is not possible.
DeleteI still get your point though, there are a lot of connection options.
Ok @09:30 now you lost me completely. You are accusing me of being "typical Balkan" but you are completely wrong. Almost every single one of these flight times is different in the summer. I think it may actually be 100% of the KLM flights on your list. Literally all of them, with possibly a few exceptions (if even)
DeleteI just checked and almost all of these destinations are offered by I guess Balkan posters on here know better than network managers at a global business like KLM.
DeleteNice.
^ What's up with your "Balkan" racism? You think by calling someone from the Balkans you belittle them and it makes you feel good?
Delete@09:43 So now that you have been proven wrong, and after you were also called out by 09:45, you change your argument.
DeleteJust admit that you were wrong. All the times are different and not all the connections you listed are possible.
They are they are just yet loaded in the system.
DeleteFinally, a full-service carrier for Amsterdam-Ljubljana! Great news for business travelers and anyone looking for a more comfortable flying experience.
ReplyDeleteKLM is also one of the rare and few European airlines to offer a better hard product in business class, with additional legroom
DeleteKLM is also one of the rare and few European airlines not to block the adjacent seat in business class on their regional aircraft, so beware.
DeleteWhich airlines block seats on an Embraer? I don't know any that will give you your own free seat next to you in a 2-2 configuration
DeleteAustrian blocks the Embraer seat in business. I think Lufthansa too.
DeleteAll I am flying with do that: Swiss (also on A220), LH (also on CRJ)...etc
DeleteKLM blocks the middle seat in business.
DeleteKLM Cityhopper doesn't, same as HOP! and Air Serbia on the E90/95.
From personal experience, all LH group members block one seat on an Embraer or A220
Delete@anon 11:27: LOT Polish Airlines blocks seats on their ERJs fleet, most of the airlines do. It could be easier to list those that do not
DeleteThat is fantastic. KLM offers great transfers and I think this will be a success. I was using Zagreb for Klm flights becouse their product aswell as the connections and price are great so I will definitley be using this route!
ReplyDeleteWith KLM and Transavia both operating the route, I wonder if this will lead to overcapacity or if they’re targeting different markets. Either way, more options are always good for passengers.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts too. 86% load factor for Transavia is impressive, but it makes me wonder if there’s enough demand to support both airlines. Maybe KLM is banking on connecting traffic through Amsterdam?
DeleteMa kakvi overcapacity. Read article.
DeleteI believe both might co-exist. At Adria times they didn't steal a lot of pax to each other. Transavia generated different passengers.
DeleteI think keeping Transavia in LJU is an answer to rapidly growing and expanding Ryanair in ZAG. Transavia can flight them and be a good alternative to the relatively horrible EIN or NRN they fly to.
DeleteIt's similar to AF with CDG and Transavia with ORY, only that ORY is only summer destination, would be nice to have it also during winter.
DeleteDont forget transavia and klm codeshare… so if there were 6 adria and 5 transavia with no codeshare im sure they can handle same amount of flights with codeshare. Amsterdam is also really popular among slovenes and also dutch tourists are fifth most common visitor.
DeleteAdria also code-shared with KLM.
Deletei wrote transavia, not klm
DeleteBig reduce in Dubrovnik compare to 2024, from 16 to 9 weekly
ReplyDeleteWe keep on writing here that European economy is not doing that well and people keep on mocking us. The Netherlands have been in a 2 year shallow recession and it's still unclear what 2025 will bring. Maybe Dutch holidaymakers will head to cheaper destinations like Turkey, Egypt or Tunis?
DeleteThey are also shrinking in ZAG. Last summer they had their mainline operate almost all flights. Now the B738 is planned only on Saturdays which makes sense as it is there for diaspora which left the US and Canada on Friday evening.
DeleteWhat the hell is a shallow recession supposed to be?
Delete"A shallow recession occurs when some parts of the economy are performing on average while others are struggling."
Deleteanon 09:24 this flight to Dubrovnik where mostly with USA tourist, especially early morning departure or late evening arrival. Europeans are usually coming with lcc in Dubrovnik
DeleteDubrovnik has gotten expensive due to overtourism, so not surprising that a lot of tourists are choosing alternatives
DeleteKLM CEO did say they are seeing softer TATL demand. It also doesn't help that UA is growing in DBV, they are becoming a dominant force for flights to the US.
DeleteAnd because of this and similar reductions LJU became possible: "The new destinations are made possible by shifts in KLM's European route network." https://news.klm.com/klm-introduces-three-new-european-destinations/
DeleteDBV reduction? But not commenting the fact about extra daily flights for 5 full months and overall big increase in S25 when you compare available capacity with S24? Crazy.
DeleteZAG is not uploaded yet. Boeing in summer peak as for years now, no reduction even if you wish :)
ZAG B738 was loaded, one weekly flight instead of double daily last summer.
DeleteThats not all. Boeing will go double daily in the peak again, sorry! :)
DeleteAnon 12:52 feeling at least ashamed now?
DeleteFinally!!!
ReplyDeleteFinnaly! This is huge news for Lju and you can say whatever u want. A great new connection with P2P traffic and even more for transfers! Also it will be great to have 11 weekly flights to Amsterdam!
ReplyDeleteThats grate, now its on Transavia to add 2 flights per week to Rotterdam
ReplyDeleteWhy exactly?
DeleteSo that KLM can compete with itself, at least according to 0912.
DeleteRotterdam does basically serve Amsterdam as well, but if Transavia has the slots, then AMS is better, as they offer transfers
Deleteadding Ljubljana was the logical next step
ReplyDeleteThis is also a smart move for KLM to strengthen its SkyTeam presence in the region. Air France already has a good reputation here, so this should complement their offering nicely.
ReplyDeleteAs someone who travels frequently between Amsterdam and Ljubljana, this is fantastic news! The additional flight times should make planning trips much easier.
ReplyDeleteNow they need to come to Sarajevo.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteCongrats LJU
ReplyDelete"LJU just can't catch a break"
ReplyDeleteWell it took 6 years to restore frequencies on this route.
DeleteMaybe have a look at the capacity as well?
DeleteLJU news are weird. We had a streak of cancellations, reductions and cuts from May to October and over the past month we've seen TK and Iberia boost capacity ad well as KLM and Eurowings add 12 flights per week in total. LJU next year will be on fire at this rate
DeleteWell its not looking all so bad for Lju next year. Klm with daily flights to Amsterdam, Eurowings three weekly to Dusseldorf and also Berlin (which is yet to be scheduled). Also Iberia is increasing capacity and Turkish is adding another four weekly to Istanbul. Besides getting new routes, I think the next goal would be to have British, Aegean, Norwegian and AirBaltic year round from next year as they all canceled the winter operations this year. It would also be nice for Finnair to be year round but they didn’t have plans for that this year and I doubt they will do it next year. Anyway I hope we see at least another new route for next summer season and maybe AirFrance to have more than just one daily to CDG.
ReplyDeleteIt would also be great to get Luton and Charleroi flights back with Wizz!
DeleteBER/Eurowings is canceled, unfortunately.
DeleteHow do you know?
DeleteVia the airport: Prevoznik Eurowings je na razpis Ministrstva za infrastrukturo za večjo letalsko povezljivost Slovenije res prijavil tudi letalsko povezavo z Berlinom, a kasneje sprejel odločitev, da v prihajajočem poletnem voznem redu 2025 realizira le lete v Düsseldorf. Nizkocenovnik je hkrati napovedal, da si ob zadovoljivih rezultatih prve povezave kasneje lahko obetamo še povezavo v Berlin. ✈️
DeleteCorrect. Today EW loaded a few connecting destinations via DUS into their booking system: AGA, AYT, BCN, ACE, ARN. Not really low fares at the moment, but at least there are more options out of LJU.
DeleteMama Lufti said no.
DeleteProbably this is true, they earn a lot with connecting passengers via FRA. BER is very strong destination out of LJU (in some years it was top unserved route).
DeleteAnd why would they say no if it would literally increase their "dominance" in LJU?
DeleteCannibalizing yields inside the family. You don't do that until you have no competition.
DeleteGreat news. AMS is excellent hub and combination with AF it makes the connection even more useful. LJU needs more competition to LH group. And it's not only summer, they loaded W25-26 schedule as well. So it's gonna be year-round.
ReplyDeleteIts interesting that they didn’t apply for subsidies wich were especially targeting Amsterdam aswell as some other routes but rather just launch flights without them. The subsidy scheme must really be bad then.
ReplyDeleteThey can't, the subsidies are only available for new routes and AMS is already served by Transavia. EU rules.
DeleteThey can, it's a different company (transavia vs klm)
DeleteIt doesn't matter. One can get subsidies only if particular city-pair is not served, regardless the carrier.
DeleteNot true again. Read it. If the capacity is increased year on year the net difference can be subsidised
DeleteI don't know what you are reading, I am reading the state tender and only new routes are subsidized. Don't spread fake information.
DeletePomoči ni mogoče dodeliti za obratovanje letalske proge, ki na dan vložitve vloge:
Delete– že tekoče obratuje (promet na progi se dejansko že izvaja v okviru tekočega tedenskega razporeda letov), ali
– še ne obratuje, vendar je v rezervacijskem sistemu objavljena namera za obratovanje te proge, za obdobje, ko je vozovnice za to progo že mogoče kupiti.
Pomoči prav tako ni mogoče dodeliti za obratovanje letalske proge, ki na dan vložitve vloge:
– že obratuje med slovenskim letališčem in drugim namembnim letališčem v istem ciljnem območju (100 km ali 60 min potovanja) ali
– že obratuje na drugem letališču, vključno s sosednjim državi, ki je v ciljnem območju (100 km ali 60 min potovanja) zadevnega slovenskega letališča.
Yes this is true, but this is for the line of the same carrier. If this would not be the case, CPH would not be listed, as it already operates. Legal interpretation of the said text is:
Delete-you can't put your line on the same before the end decision
-you can't put your line in your reservation system before the end decision
-you can not operate the line beforehand
-you can not operate the line to a nerby airport (for example if Air France would want to subisdy the route to ORY)
It's carrier independent. The priority route list is there from the first release of the tender (AMS was not operating at that time) and the state is not changing it. I don't why, it's confusing. But in summary your legal assessment is very much incorrect. (even some other elements)
DeleteA very good one. Congrats to LJU
ReplyDeleteJust checking the prices from ZAG and LJU, why is one way ticket with the same carrier (KLM) twice as expensive from Zagreb?
ReplyDeleteMaybe because flights out of LJU are completely empty since flights are from yesterday open for booking as its not the case for ZAG? Maybe becuse there is promo fare due to new route announced? Maybe because there are different taxes at diferent airports?
DeleteActually judging by the prices (the tickets start at 44€) the sales are incredible. Quite a few one way flights are now starting at 100+€ which does indicate quite a good load already....one day into the sale
DeleteIncorrect. In Amadeus all classes are open with 9, indicating mostly empty flights which is completely normal at the moment.
Delete@10:52 Are you serious? You think KLM already sold tickets on multiple flights to Ljubljana next summer?? This has to be a joke.
DeleteThere is zero chance that KLM sold any tickets to Ljubljana yet.
DeleteNot correct, I already have 2, one to AMS, the other to LIS.
DeleteI booked USA trip yesterday, because prices were low
DeleteDon't forget that AF reduced LJU ,so I guess this is some kind of AFKLM capacity switching between hubs CDG and AMS
ReplyDeleteGreat! Bravo for Ljubljana!
ReplyDeleteCongrats Ljubljana! It will be great to see them or Transavia in Skopje!
ReplyDeleteWhy is KLM ignoring Sarajevo?
ReplyDeleteHopefully they go double daily soon. I would not be surprised if they add some additional daily rotation on some days
ReplyDeleteI agree but lets first wait that one daily rotations start
DeleteBravo Fraport Slovenija, good job, well done!
ReplyDeleteBeen using KLM ZAG route, very good timings and it was always packed. Many Slovenians as well. So it makes sense to start operating from LJU as well. I don’t think it will last long though
ReplyDeleteU know nothing, john snow
DeleteWould love to see KLM in Sarajevo. I would like to think its a matter of time.
ReplyDeleteGreat news. This is a good sign for a potential Skopje-Amsterdam route.
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