Ljubljana Jože Pučnik Airport is actively seeking to enhance its connectivity by attracting Chinese carriers, however, the process it expected to take time and any concrete developments are unlikely in the immediate future. Speaking to the “Finance” business daily, Ljubljana Airport’s Head of Airline Management, Janez Krašnja, said, “We've been in talks with Chinese carriers for years about launching flights to Ljubljana. However, long-haul routes like these come with significantly higher business risks. A flight between Ljubljana and Beijing, for example, takes around eleven hours, with operating costs exceeding 300.000 euros per round trip, which is no small figure”.
Ljubljana Airport sees the value in connecting to one of the world’s largest aviation markets, however, the reality of launching long haul flights is far more complex. “China is already well connected through established global hubs, making the need for nonstop flights less urgent. That means, if it happens at all, it will likely take some time before we see the first scheduled service between Ljubljana and China. Breaking into long haul, intercontinental routes is always a major milestone for any airport, but it's also a leap that involves substantial risk, which is something airlines are naturally cautious about, especially when passenger demand isn’t guaranteed”, Mr Krašnja said.
China has proposed for the establishment of nonstop flights to Slovenia. The announcement came during visit by Slovenia’s Minister for the Economy, Tourism and Sport, Matjaž Han, to China along with a high-powered business delegation late last year. Ling Ji, China’s Vice Minister and Deputy China International Trade Representative of Commerce, said the country would work on “establishing an air bridge” between the two countries, noting that introducing flights would significantly enhance convenience, as well as encourage greater movement of people and goods.
There have never been scheduled nonstop flights between the two countries. In 2013, Ljubljana Airport held talks with China Southern Airlines, upon the initiative of the airport’s CEO at the time, while a year later, the airline expressed interest in acquiring a stake in then flag carrier Adria Airways, as well as Ljubljana Airport. The government eventually settled to sell Adria Airways to a German turnaround fund, while the airport operator was sold to Germany’s Fraport. In 2016, the Chinese Embassy in Ljubljana launched an initiative for flights between the two countries to be established, with a proposal for Hainan Airlines to operate its service from Beijing vis the Slovenian capital. Ultimately, the airline launched operations to Belgrade via Prague. In 2017, the Slovenian government advanced discussions with the Civil Aviation Administration of China after a carrier expressed interest in introducing flights between Xi’an and Ljubljana. However, the proposed service never materialised.
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ReplyDeleteIf Luxembourg can have nonstop passenger flights to China, I don't see why LJU can't.
DeleteWho flies the LUX flights?
DeleteChina Southern
DeleteThanks. Do you know which equipment they use?
DeleteA350-900!
DeleteI don't get these flights. Is there demand?
DeleteChina has very low aviation fees so it's not hard to break even. Plus they can carry cargo if the cargo hold isn't full and LUX is a major cargo hub
DeleteThe cargo market out of LUX is already taken by Cargolux
DeleteSo you compare LUX with LJU….. okay
DeleteSlovenia is EU, integrated in German economic and traffic area. Small country with no relations with China
DeleteNo relations with China LOL!
DeleteGerman "economic and traffic area" is highly dependent on China. Especially Germany.
DeleteI'm seeking flights to the moon
DeleteToday is not 1st of April
ReplyDeleteEvery day is 1st of April at LJU.
DeleteHope it happens. There are a lot of Chinese tourists visiting Slovenia and they could also use Slovenia as an entry point to Croatia.
ReplyDeleteDid you count it?
Delete^ huh?
Delete58,471 Chinese tourists in Slovenia in 2024.
Deletethat's not bad actually
DeleteThere's more South Koreans AFAIK. But with their demographic crisis and China's economic growth, I wouldn't be surprised if there ended up being more demand to Shanghai than Seoul
DeleteHahahhaha, that 58000 tourists, didnt go intentionally to see Slovenia. Maybe they stayed like 3 hours or the most one day in Slovenia, visiting as part of tour from Croatia, Austria or Hungary.
DeleteThey went to see K und K EU that is Slovenia. After Postojnska Jama I went like 10 times over Slovenia never visiting brda i doline. Spending times there is waste of time and money vs France Italy and Austria.
DeleteIf Slovenia did some promotion in China it would get more Chinese tourists.
DeleteAccording to official data an average Chinese tourist spends slightly less than 2 nights in Slovenia per trip, meaning it's likely part of a package deal with Austria or the Balkans. If tours can start and end in Vienna, they can in Ljubljana as well
DeleteBravo Fraport!
ReplyDeleteHahahaha
ReplyDeleteRealistically I can maybe see seasonal flights to Xi'an due to both being owned by Fraport but that's about it
ReplyDeleteSlovenia is a great market for Chinese. Has absolutely every they want to see.
ReplyDeleteSlovenia as a country has a lot to offer. It's already doing well in attracting Chinese tourists.
DeleteI have a feeling that Exyu is intentionally preparing such news, to tease Slovenian aviation market :)
ReplyDeleteWell the airport's manageer did make the remarks.
DeleteThis would be great if it happened.
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Deletetwo flights per week on Dreamliner could work.
ReplyDeleteAt least on a seasonal basis, definitely. Shanghai, Chengdu, Hsi'an or Beijing all have potential.
DeleteThe fact that China is publicly supporting this initiative is a big deal. Slovenia shouldn’t miss this window of opportunity.
ReplyDeleteWe had charters from Japan once upon a time. Why not try to get charters from China?
ReplyDeleteWhatever happened to those?
DeleteFraport
DeleteIncompetence came.
DeleteJesus christ are you brainrot? Fraport has nothing to do with charters, the only party influencing charters is literally the tour agency that orders them.
DeleteInteresting that Slovenia also tried to get Hainan to reroute their Prague flight
ReplyDeleteAnd Alpha Centauri double daily...
ReplyDeleteThe fact that airport lost Japan charters because of the management speaks for itself
ReplyDeleteAre we sure they stopped due to the management?
DeleteYeah definitely not. Management does not have any influence whether tour agencies charter flights or not.
DeleteWe are missing flights to many European capitals, which should be covered first.
ReplyDeleteYes, Ljubljana Airport should work on bringing more European airlines
DeleteTHIS!! I find it very interesting that they're thinking of long haul yet the connectivity within Europe is relatively bad...
DeleteYes, LJU should just ignore any charters or intercontinental flights because LJU needs scheduled connections within Europe first. Are people saying this OK? Like mentally OK?
DeleteI’d love to fly directly to China from Ljubljana instead of connecting in Frankfurt or Istanbul. Would save hours.
ReplyDeleteYou can go through BEG too. Good transfer times.
DeleteBEG is very expensive for China transfers for some reason (flying from LJU). I had to go to Shanghai earlier this year and purposely wanted to fly via Belgrade to try their long-haul which I haven't flown. It was a solid 30-40% more expensive than via Munich on Lufthansa's A350. And I'm not paying a premium to fly on an older plane, unfortunately
DeleteWell, at least the dream of a Beijing-Ljubljana direct flight is still alive :D
ReplyDeleteBarely
DeleteWishful thinking
DeleteOf course, nothing will come out of this.
ReplyDeleteChina has over 1 billion people. 2 weekly flights to anywhere would likely find demand.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Pretty much any capital city in Europe can work.
DeleteSo many talks, so little action. Other airports in the region are miles ahead when it comes to global connectivity.
ReplyDeleteYes, especially Trieste…
DeleteWe need to make this happen
ReplyDeleteWhere do Slovenians get their China flights from now? BEG or VIE? Just wondering apologies if it's a known around here....
ReplyDeleteI live in Slovenia went once thru China this year and will go again in summer. I am flying both times from Budapest, the first was Budapest to Seoul via Shanghai for 380 euros round trip and the other Budapest to Taipei via Beijing for 290 euros one way. Considering you can pay this from Ljubljana for short haul flights I have to imagine the costs of flying from Ljubljana would be much higher.
DeleteFair enough, BEG doesnt make much sense then in that case. Thanks for the reply.
DeleteI think I saw some one way to Shanghai from Ljubljana via Belgrade for about 400 euros one way, its not bad but I am not sure if Air Serbia has any codeshares in China so unless you want to go Guangzhou or Shanghai you'd need a separate ticket.
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DeleteAre you sure you paid round trip to Korea via China 380 euros? This year? It's unbelievable. It's cheap even for one way. Can you give some more details? Month, carrier, transfer times... Or confirm it was one way price
I am very sure I did, it was booked in December for the last week of march (last week). 380 euros round trip, BUD - PVG on Shanghai Airlines and PVG - INC on China Eastern (both the same company). First layover was 4 hours and second was 16, the longest I could find so I could leave the airport on the return journey as well.
DeleteLubljana via Istanbul to Bejing with Turkish is good option. Price is good, less then 800 € return trip in June this year. I flew last year in this direction and I was very satisfied with the service.
DeleteChinese carriers are offering dirt cheap fares to China across Europe. This is the reason why so many European airlines have retreated from China. Chinese carriers are dumping prices so it is becoming increasingly difficult for European airlines to compete. You can especially find great deals from BUD where there is an overcapacity to China.
DeleteThanks 10.05 and 11.49! Good to know.
DeleteIt's always good to dream
ReplyDeleteBetter to dream about this than another daily flight to Munich.
DeleteSo better to have no flights than another daily flight to an existing destination? Its not LJU’s fault you’re unhappy in life…
DeleteWhy not try to attract a major Gulf carrier? Qatar was interested at one point.
ReplyDeleteThis would be much more useful.
DeleteQatar has zero capacity left. Their CEO tried to extort Airbus, when it failed they cancelled their A320neo orders and went to the 737 MAX. That then had several delays, grounding and issues regarding production due to strikes and legal cases
DeleteI thought that fairy tales are on the second floor
ReplyDeleteVia Belgrade:)
ReplyDeleteNo
DeleteVia Belgrade is surely one of the options.
DeleteIf more was done, there could be decent tourism demand on both ends. From Slovenia to China and from China to Slovenia.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteThis has to be negotiated on a political level
ReplyDeleteNot really
DeleteAren't China flights supposed to start from Maribor? :D
ReplyDeleteMaybe it would have happened if the owners stayed Chinese and government adopted the promised spatial plan to expand the airport, which it btw, has not adopted yet.
DeleteBack in the day, the government also attempted to get Hainan's PEK-PRG flights to stop in LJU
ReplyDeletehttps://sloveniatimes.com/10780/slovenia-lobbying-for-air-link-with-china
EU China relations arent that great. Dont see Chinese government pushing their airlines to support EU countries at this point in time
ReplyDeleteChinese airlines have launched flights across Europe in record levels over the past year.
DeleteExactly. They are even increasing flights to Canada and relations have never been worse.
DeleteI think the any long haul flights from LJU are unrealistic.
ReplyDeleteIndeed
DeleteChina Southern was not able to get slots at VIE. Maybe a chance for LJU.
ReplyDeleteDoubt it
DeleteSeems like every European country has tried to attract flights from China except Croatia.
ReplyDeleteI find it surprising that there are no flights between China and Croatia. At least seasonal.
DeleteSanje svinje o rižibiži!
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